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EU Launches Antitrust Probe Into iTunes

Macthorpe writes "ABC News is reporting that the EU has started an antitrust probe into the way that Apple sells music on iTunes. As you can only purchase from the store of the country where your credit or debit card is registered, the price differences and availability differences between iTunes stores for different EU countries constitute a violation of EU competition laws which forbid territorial sales restrictions.'Apple spokesman Steve Dowling said Monday the company wanted to operate a single store for all of Europe, but music labels and publishers said there were limits to the rights that could they could grant to Apple. "We don't believe Apple did anything to violate EU law," he said. "We will continue to work with the EU to resolve this matter."'"

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  1. Re:EU Fines by MaGogue · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hmm, maybe it's the other way around .. maybe it's just the companies aren't used to play by the law.

  2. Re:EU Fines by Carewolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The current laws are sufficient, and if you Apple eye-glasses wasn't so narrow you have noticed that the new antitrust case is not against Apple, but against Apple and 3 music cartels.

    Apple has the spin angle of claiming to work with the EU to force the music cartels to open up.

  3. Re:good old EU by bri2000 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Despite how it's described in the summary and articles this isn't really an anti-trust/competition law case. It's a single market issue. The principle is that if you live in an EU state you should be able to buy goods and services on sale in any other EU state and import them to your home state without restriction (save for certain limited exemptions for reasons of public morality etc). The EU Commission has power to enforce this and, especially in the period following the Single Market Act coming into force in 1992 under Leon Brittan, was very aggressive at going after both governments and private companies who breached this principle. The number of cases dropped off as governments and companies realised that the Commission was serious about the single market and started to play by the rules.

    What Apple has been doing with iTMS in Europe is so flagrantly in breach of the principles underlying the single market I'm frankly amazed it's taken the commission this long to get round to investigating them. I'd love to know who's been giving Apple their legal advice - I assume they're going to try to run an argument that they're providing a service rather than selling goods and therefore aren't caught in the single market rules - and will be very interested to see how this one turns out. We've not had a good free movement of goods case for a while...

  4. Lots of misunderstandings here by Budenny · · Score: 5, Informative

    1) Its not about coding. Having different release dates in different languages would be fine, even within the EU.

    2) Its not about DRM. Locking to players may or may not be OK in the EU, but its a different issue.

    3) Its not about having the same price. No-one says you have to sell for the same price everywhere.

    4) Its not about Apple being forced to do things by the record companies. It doesn't matter who wanted it or didn't.

    5) It is not the same as buying stuff in Japan and the US, because, you see, Japan and the US are not part of a single market established by treaty and with a transnational body, the Commission, regulating conduct of companies.

    What is it about then?

    It is unlawful in the EU to restrict imports and exports from one country to another, because that is in restraint of trade and anti competitive. You can sell it for 600 in Germany and 300 in France. But what you cannot do is prevent the Germans from buying the stuff in France.

    Consequently, it makes no difference what the record companies or Apple think or say to each other. Apple cannot enter into an agreement to restrict sales from its UK sites to UK cardholders. If it did sign such an agreement, it is unlawful. It will have entered into a conspiracy to commit anti competitive behaviour. Along with whoever it signed the agreement with. They will both be fried for it. If it just did it off its own initiative, only it committed the unlawful acts. If it really did.

    So please guys, stop blaming the record companies and exonerating Apple, its all irrelevant. We have, allegedly, one or more parties engaged in anti competitive practices which are unlawful in the EU. If so, one or both are going to get busted. Whoever instigated it is irrelevant.

    If you want to get a better handle on it, think violating FTC rules on interstate commerce in the US.

  5. Since no ones seems to grasp what this is about... by Toby_Tyke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Have you ever looked into the situation. It has been years since the EU ordered the different music licensing cartels across Europe to offer a single, pan-european license and those record company groups have ignored them. Now they're demanding Apple charge the same amount in different countries, when Apple pays a different amount in different countries

    Yes, I have looked into the situation, but you obviously haven't, since you completely fail to understand what this case is all about. Apple can charge whatever the hell it wants in each individual country. Want to charge the two euros per track in france and four in germany? Fine.

    What the commission is complaining about, and what may very well be determined illegal under EU law, is restricting the sale of French priced tracks only to people with credit cards issued in France. That's what the case is about. If iTunes France wants to charge half the German price, that's fine, but they are not allowed to stop people with German issued credit cards logging on and buying tracks. The EU garuntees free movement of goods, services and people between its member states. Shutting out consumers based on where their cards are issued may well be in violation of this.

    Now, you may disagree, and think that imposing this restriction is not in violation of EU law. Fine. But you are grossly misrepresenting the situaton by claiming the EU commission wants Apple to charge the same amount in every country.

    Incidently, I agree with the commission on this one. I think refusing to process a credit card tranaction because the card was issued in a different EU state is probably a violation of the single market regulations. In the end, of course, that will be for the courts to decide.

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  6. Re:Since no ones seems to grasp what this is about by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Informative

    What the commission is complaining about, and what may very well be determined illegal under EU law, is restricting the sale of French priced tracks only to people with credit cards issued in France.

    This is called "due diligence" to prevent contributory copyright infringement charges leveled against Apple.

    The EU garuntees free movement of goods, services and people between its member states. Shutting out consumers based on where their cards are issued may well be in violation of this.

    So here's the problem. The right to copy a song onto your personal computer in France is considered, under EU law, a different service than the right to download that same song onto your personal computer in Germany because the right to copy it (copyright) is enforced separately in each country. So if Apple did not restrict the sale of a song from the French store to people with a French credit card, then sure a German could purchase the copyright with their German card, but assuming they are in Germany, it would be illegal for them to actually download the song in Germany, because their license to copy only applies in France and they aren't in France.

    Your mistake is trying to equate a download with a CD, when those two things are treated completely differently by EU law. Under EU law, you cannot transfer a copyright (download license) in one country to another, while you can transfer a copy itself (CD).

    Now, you may disagree, and think that imposing this restriction is not in violation of EU law. Fine. But you are grossly misrepresenting the situaton by claiming the EU commission wants Apple to charge the same amount in every country.

    The EU commission is bringing charges against Apple for selling what EU law defines as different services, for different prices. The problem is most of the people involved only understand things in terms of analogies, like CDs and don't understand that the problem is with EU law and the recording industry's exploitation thereof. Apple has exactly zero power to solve this. If they did as you suggest, they'd simply be misleading people into thinking they had a legal right to download a song, when they almost certainly did not, and as a result Apple would be liable for damages because of their knowingly profiting from this illegal behavior.

    Incidently, I agree with the commission on this one. I think refusing to process a credit card tranaction because the card was issued in a different EU state is probably a violation of the single market regulations.

    It is entirely probable that it is a violation, technically. The problem is that accepting payments from foreign cards is also probably illegal. The EU has created a situation where selling music downloads online, is probably illegal no matter which way Apple chooses to do business. All of this, however, would be a moot point if the EU would simply enforce their own edict that requires the recording companies to offer to sell Apple and everyone else a single license at a single price that applies across Europe, so that the copyright license in Germany and in France were the same service. Right now, under EU law, they are not.