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Survey Finds Few Intend to Upgrade to Vista

thefickler writes "A recent Harris Poll has found that while most online computers users are aware of Microsoft's Windows Vista, few are intending to switch over to the new operating system anytime soon. The Harris Poll of 2223 US online adults in early March found that 87% were aware of Vista. Unfortunately for Microsoft, only 12% of Vista-aware respondents were intending to upgrade to Vista in the next 12 months."

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  1. Early Adoptor == Burned by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting



    Alas, where I work we will be enthusiastically embracing Vista. My supervisor was very upbeat when she
    told me I would be getting a new computer loaded with Vista and that I needed to familiarise myself with it
    because everyone else would be getting Vista, too.

    I'm an old school computer guy. I don't "upgrade" until I have to or there is sufficient benefit to be
    gained. I learned this from a crafty old fellow who felt so, after being burned several times.

    As to why, I see Vista as little more than a ploy to hold market share and gain some profits, as the existing
    XP profit cycle has likely flattened. There will be a few bells and whistles, but the security aspect tells me they know
    less about writing operating systems than their predecessors of 30 years ago. I think they still just don't get it. I also feel it's been rushed.

    After all these years Windows is still a big mysterious black box, wherein things happen of which we know little and therefore
    have little say in behaviour of or control over.

    Besides, I've always been a fan of having the actual code at my finger tips. ;-)

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    1. Re:Early Adoptor == Burned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On the other hand, I happen to need to buy a new computer for my son going off to college and being a mere consumer (i.e. powerless to get an OEM to sell me an XP system instead of Vista), I will be buying a stand alone copy of XP from a website to replace the copy of Vista that will come with the machine. My copy of Vista will end up sitting on the shelf. Yes, I know I'm paying Microsoft twice but what can one do? My son needs a Windows based computer and the university doesn't support (and doesn't want to support) Vista.

      Truthfully, I don't want Vista on the computer. However, I wonder how many other people find themselves in this predicament of basically being forced to pay Microsoft twice?

    2. Re:Early Adoptor == Burned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Downgrading" your license is possible, depending on the license.

    3. Re:Early Adoptor == Burned by Grishnakh · · Score: 5, Funny

      I will be buying a stand alone copy of XP from a website to replace the copy of Vista that will come with the machine. My copy of Vista will end up sitting on the shelf. Yes, I know I'm paying Microsoft twice but what can one do?

      Ever heard of BitTorrent?

    4. Re:Early Adoptor == Burned by pcmanjon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      QUOTE "It's because of people like you that we have WGA and other such anti-piracy features. I'm still puzzled as to why people who are too damn cheap to pay companies their dues think that they're superior than us honest consumers."

      There isn't much of a need to pay for XP if you've bought vista. Consider if a trade. Buy Vista (which is Windows tax with the new laptop) -- chuck it -- download XP and use that. Vista probably costs more than XP, so in fact Microsoft profited.

      It's not like he's going to buy the vista/laptop, THEN download XP and use it on a 2nd computer.

      I use to pirate Windows, but then I started using Linux primarily. Now I am legit I suppose. Although I did purchase a laptop loaded with XP, and I haven't bothered installing Linux on it.

    5. Re:Early Adoptor == Burned by dingDaShan · · Score: 5, Funny

      It seems that Microsoft didn't make XP bad enough. If it was, people would want to upgrade. See windows 98 for example.

    6. Re:Early Adoptor == Burned by Cope57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I would rather pay for Linux, than use Windows for free. But since the Debian Linux distribution I am using is available for free, I can contribute to the distribution in any way I feel it appropriate. cash donation (tax deductible), equipment, etc...

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    7. Re:Early Adoptor == Burned by Thaelon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Microsoft depends on piracy to increase the number of computers their products are on. People using torrents are just helping them out.

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    8. Re:Early Adoptor == Burned by greginnj · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think you are buying far too much into the negative hype around Vista. The only way you'll be having problems with your Vista laptop is if you plan on buying a bargan basement no frills machine that has minimal hardware specs.
      You're bending over backwards to be tolerant, here. Remember how Dell was selling 'Vista-capable' machines that were "Great for ... Booting the Operating System, without running applications or games" [ yes, caps in the original, like the os was some sort of deity...]. Sorry, it's flash, but this is the original -- click on 'Hardware' then on 'View Hardware Requirements'.

      So Dell is willing to call such a machine 'Vista-capable', and Microsoft was willing to certify it as such. What the hell do I want with an os that does nothing but boot? Dell and Microsoft conspired to screw us both: Dell wanted to unload low-end overstock hardware, MS wanted to limit the availability of pre-installed XP to boost Vista's numbers. Not everyone wants a gamer machine -- if I buy a low-end box that is 'Vista capable', I shouldn't end up feeling like a fraud victim.
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    9. Re:Early Adoptor == Burned by Lehk228 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      XP offered many REAL improvements for the user over windows98, not the least of which being real user logins and security.

      granted most of thses "improvements" have been in unix since the 70's but still, at least they exist.

      vista is no more than windowblinds+truecrypt except not as good as either

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  2. ORLY? by kv9 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unfortunately for Microsoft, only 12% of Vista-aware respondents were intending to upgrade to Vista in the next 12 months.

    fortunately for Microsoft, the OEMs provide good business.

    1. Re:ORLY? by rackhamh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Seriously... probably a more appropriate question would have been "How many of you intend to buy a new computer in the next 12 months?"

    2. Re:ORLY? by Clever7Devil · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I had a short conversation today with a customer service rep from Dell regarding buying a new laptop.

      System Initial Question/Comment: Is it possible to get a laptop with XP or no OS?
      System You are now being connected to an agent. Thank you for using Dell Chat
      System Connected with ATG Anibal
      ATG Anibal Thank you for contacting the Dell Employee and Student Purchase Program. My name is Anibal, I will be your personal assistant today. I will be glad to assist you with your questions.
      ATG Anibal To be sure that I can further assist you, may I have the name of the company or institution that you work for?
      Me ::Deleted my company name for obvious reasons::
      ATG Anibal Yes , those are latitude notebooks. Those are the ones that will give you xp as an option
      Me Alright... can I get no OS?
      ATG Anibal No, is not an option.
      Me So, just so I understand what you're saying. If I want to buy a Dell Laptop I also must buy Windows with it?
      ATG Anibal That is correct
      Me And if I want to buy an Inspiron laptop, I also must buy Vista?
      ATG Anibal That is correct, unless you go with latitude notebooks
      Me Thank you for your help.

      "Is not an option" was my favorite part. YA RLY

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    3. Re:ORLY? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 4, Informative
      So what's the lack of average Joe interest in Linux reflect?.

      Of the people I've talked computers with and who are aware of Linux, the common responses are:

      1. Application lock in.
      2. Format lock in.
      3. FUD (many varieties of misinformation).
      4. Unfamiliar UI.
      5. Not sufficiently better/different (can't be bothered).
      6. Lack of peer support (asking mates how to fix something).
      7. Lack of hardware vendor support. (Sorry, I don't care if there's smoke coming from your peripheral. We won't help because you're using an unsupported OS).

      My crowd's not particularly computer geeky (film/video and engineering, mostly), so it's not a huge sample size though.

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  3. I have until 2010 to upgrade by Windcatcher · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...from Win2k to ReactOS.

  4. the great philosopher asked... by SummitCO · · Score: 5, Funny

    What if a monopoly made a product and nobody bought it?

  5. the WOW starts now lol by GraphiX2004 · · Score: 5, Funny

    the WOW starts now...

    WOW nothing works no more!
    WOW it wont let me playing this media because of DRM
    WOW my entire system has stoped working because it thinks im a pirate
    WOW i no longer control my pc it controls me.

    WOW i have to pay for this?

  6. Re:I just switched... BACK by SEMW · · Score: 4, Informative

    When using a laptop and traveling much, my ip-adress will often fluctuate. To show my IP-adress under XP, i doubleclick on the connection-icon in the systray and change to the second tab. Under Vista, i doubleclick the connection-icon and end up in the Connection-Center. From there, i have to choose the common Task to manage connections. There i have to rightclick on the connection and click on properties. THERE i have to click on the advanced-button. IIRC, one of the resons behind the Vista Sidebar was to make oft-accessed information just like this very easily accessible. Sure enough, a quick Find More Gadgets search reveals:

    My IP -- "a compact gadget to display your current IP address"

    Alternatively:

    Wireless Network Controller -- "a gadget to display your wireless network's current status and details. The gadget displays the SSID and Signal Strength; click on the SSID to open the Details flyout for all the network details such as Signal Quality, Security Status and IP Address."

    Another alternative; And another, etc..
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  7. Re:I just switched... BACK by RedWizzard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can't open a command window and type 'ipconfig' ? Of course, but that's not the point. The point is that the GUI method of getting that functionality is much less efficient in Vista than it was in XP.
  8. No need to pirate by novocastrian · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most manufacturers offer their computers with Vista installed, but all it takes is a phone call or email to get them to put XP on it instead. I bought a Dell laptop a few weeks ago with XP & it was very easy to arrange.

  9. Re:What does it offer? by Chazmyrr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Right. So aside from maintaining a separate frame buffer for each window, providing a toolkit that allows resolution independant user interfaces, forcing developers to stop assuming that only one user is logged on at a time and that that user is an administrator, moving most of the device drivers out into user space where they can't crash the rest of the system, improved scheduling on multiple cores, improved memory management, non-destructive re-partitioning, a version of DirectX where vendors can't claim their hardware is compliant when it really isn't, full disk encryption, 3rd party credential providers that don't replace system libraries, Media Center, and a desktop that doesn't look like ass, what does Vista actually offer?

    Maybe it doesn't offer you anything. That's fine. Don't assume that's the case for everyone else.

  10. Re:Actually.... by xs650 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "A Vista license allows you to "downgrade"."

    A Vista license is a downgrade.