O'Reilly Opens Online Tech School
bl8n8r writes "The popular book author has started the O'Reilly School of Technology which offers online training and certification. "The O'Reilly School of Technology and the University of Illinois have partnered to offer Certificates of Professional Development in information technology and related skills." Among classes offered are Linux/Unix administration, Open Source coding, Java coding, C Programming and others."
No, but there will be plenty of scope for.. 'I'm doing an online course!' 'Oh, really?' 'No, O'Reilly' style jokes.
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Damn. More offshoring...
Personally I think this could be the most interesting course if done correctly. Rather than "Here's how you code, do this, do that" it could be a mix of coding standards, how to deal with people and how to deal with the bullshit drama in some areas. This would be a useful course for geeks lacking social skills and while they may not learn a huge heap about coding, they could learn a lot of more useful stuff to them in the long run.
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I'd rather find a community college offering similar courses for credit rather than CEU. At least then I would have less of a chance of it not transferring. Too many poorly accredited institutions are out there today offering CEU courses which probably wouldn't transfer anywhere else anyway because they weren't taken for actual credit.
As a mid-level manager, I have yet to hire anyone with a certificate. We do hire people with proven skills. Prospective developers are given a few problems to solve to see how they solve it.
I did work for a company that hired only those with certificates. Not too many skilled there.
The problem with certificate schools is that state and federal job training agencies send out-of-work truck drivers, ex-cons, the chronically under-employeed to get trained in networking, programming, or project management. Then, there are the certificate schools that are just scams.
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"The O'Reilly School of Technology and the University of Illinois have partnered to offer Certificates of Professional Development in information technology and related skills."
students will earn 4 CEUs (Continuing Education Units) and a CEU letter from the University of Illinois Office of Continuing Education.
$1600 (let's see- that's 2-3 weeks pay) for a new school, completely unproven? I'm eligible for tuition reimbursement and such, but my HR department would laugh me right out the door.
This CEU/"certificate of professional development" and a ham sandwich at an interview would get me something to eat.
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In all seriousness, the guy is just being an asshat.
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Some of the drawbacks aside, I am very jazzed about this.
1. I trust O'Reilly.
2. I definitely learn more by reading-and-doing than simply reading.
3. When I try to self-learn, I have trouble dreaming up interesting/challenging projects to complete.
4. I don't necessarily have the time to devote to on-campus learning.
5. I am not interested in attaining a "degree" or a "certificate." I just want to get my hands in technologies that will help me in my job.
6. I don't find the course prices out of line.
I sincerely hope it's successful and they start offering a larger range of the courses.
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Hi, I'm the director of this thing. Our goal is to eventually become accredited, but to do so we'll have to get some rules changed. There are a lot of rules that exist either because of the legacy of the classroom, or because of the limitations of the first generation of Learning Management Systems (LMS companies like Blackboard lobbied to get implemented.
I got the "web developer" certificate over two years ago; it was a sad waste of $1,700. I found numerous errors in every course, and had to patiently explain the error several times to my "mentor" before he finally realized what was wrong. I wonder if they've ever corrected the errors.
And then the certificate itself is just a drab printout. I would have done better to fire up GIMP and make my own. Very disappointing.