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Google Earth Highlights Darfur

jc42 writes "Google Earth, in cooperation with the US Holocaust Memorial Museum now presents details of the growing disaster in Darfur. They give a virtual tour of the area, with details of events in many villages in the words of local residents. So in addition to their "Do no evil" motto, they apparently now have a policy of exposing evil. Needless to say, the Sudan government didn't exactly cooperate with this project."

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  1. Re:Darfur by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 4, Informative

    Even if it is some pointless war, someone should put an end to it, because the government there is obviously not willing to do it.

    If you've got a plan, you should share it. But for a lot of people, it will be a tough sell. Pretty much everyone is aware of what happened when the US intervened in Iraq. Many people still remember Somalia. Why would this turn out differently if "someone put an end to it"? That's a serious question.

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  2. Re:Darfur by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, Sudan most definitely has oil. Oil rights were one of the primary causes of the recent civil war between the Sudanese government and the Christian/Animist south. (As a reminder, THAT civil war has been settled and was a different conflict than the events in Darfur.) I do not know if the Darfur region of Sudan has oil.

  3. Re:Economic Benefit by brian_tanner · · Score: 2, Informative
    C'mon. They have the Google.org charity which has been planned from the start and is apparently described in their IPO. It was big news about a year ago...

    There is a story about it here: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2005-10-12-googl e-charity_x.htm

    From the article:

    Among its goals, the online search giant will fund for-profit start-ups that also aim for social good, such as a program promoting entrepreneurship in western Africa. Overall, Google executives said Tuesday, its philanthropy will target three areas worldwide: poverty, the environment and energy.
  4. Re:Bosnia a good counterexample by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Maybe you should read transcripts of Milosevic's trial? Have you ever wondered why such prominent trial was not widely published?

    Not widely published? Did you ever actually search on the subject? I count 31 references in the Wikipedia article alone. I imagine a Google search would pull up thousands of articles.


    My brother did a research for his term paper and found that the court found sufficient evidence for exactly ONE case of war crimes.

    Not to disrespect your family, but I will not accept "My brother's term paper" as a valid source for the trial of Slobodan Milosevic. Maybe we could all start by reading some of the references in the Wikipedia article I linked to above. On top of that, considering that international law is such a convoluted subject, it's a miracle the Milosevic was ever extradited.


    About a quarter million of serbs were forced to move after the end of "humanitarian bombings" ("After the war ended, the UN Security Council passed Resolution 1244 that placed Kosovo under transitional UN administration (UNMIK) and authorized KFOR, a NATO-led peacekeeping force. Almost immediately returning Kosovo Albanians attacked Kosovo Serbs [1], causing some 200,000-280,000[20] Serbs and other non-Albanians[21] to flee"). But that's not a genocide, sure. That's just a "normal migration".

    As for your worries about the Serbs and the Kosovo problems, now maybe the Serbians will understand what happened when their proxies (the Bosnian Serbs) performed "ethnic cleansing" on Bosnian Muslims. In other words, the Serbs ended up receiving the same treatment they had been giving everyone else in the Balkans.

    If the Serbs want respect, maybe they should have been respectful of others.

  5. Re:Sources please? by Cyberax · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo#Kosovo_after_t he_war - this article cites a lot of credible references (see the list below). There is much more material in Russian. You can google for it yourself.

    It was publicized a bit by Russian TV and newspapers, but Europe completely is silent about the whole Kosovo situation. Small wonder, because number of misplaced Serbs exceed number of Albanian refugees misplaced by evil Milosevic.

  6. Re:Bosnia a good counterexample by treat · · Score: 3, Informative
    Maybe you should read transcripts of Milosevic's trial? Have you ever wondered why such prominent trial was not widely published? My brother did a research for his term paper and found that the court found sufficient evidence for exactly ONE case of war crimes.

    That trial was the biggest injustice I've ever seen, after reading a lot of the transcripts. For example, a witness would testify against him for more than a day, and he would be "allowed" to cross examine, but given no time to do so - after one or two questions, he's told his time is up.

  7. Re:Darfur by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 2, Informative

    AARGH can people PLEASE start actually making an effort to see the conflict ?

    It's ARAB muslims (the "Janjaweed") on horses that kill the non-ARAB BLACK "abdels" (black slaves), who are both muslim and christian. The government of Sudan describes it as a jihad, and as a result, is getting support, people and weapons, from muslims world-wide.

  8. Re:Of course Sudan's government didn't approve by FunWithKnives · · Score: 3, Informative

    You're quite obviously trolling. The Qur'an says absolutely nothing of the kind. In fact, until recently, Islamic states were seen as places of refuge for Jews and non-orthodox Christians (those who did not believe in the "Holy Trinity") due to the religous tolerance there. Instead of being persecuted as they were by orthodox Christians, they were allowed to practice their own religion with the stipulation that they not attempt to convert anyone. Muslims saw Jews and Christians as fellow "People of The Book." The differences came about because Muslims believed that all prophets before Muhammad had been misunderstood, and that God had directly visited Muhammad to establish a "corrective." This corrective became the Qur'an.

    This is not about Islam or the Qur'an itself. It is about whacked out religious nuts and their crazy interpretations. Unfortunately, we seem to get these nutcases with every religion.

    I apologize for being somewhat off-topic with this post, but I could not bring myself to ignore the parent, even if it is a trolling AC.

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  9. Re: "do no evil" by antikronos · · Score: 2, Informative
    I never said it would be inevitable. The whole point is that that it has happened more than once in the past fifty years and companies with a big responsibility like Google should think about and act on these issues, especially when they link themselves to organizations like the US Holocaust Memorial Museum!

    Over the past few years they have done the exact opposite and these are not conspiracy theories or Google bashing but just plain facts:

    • Collect your data without permission, not even opt out! and use a permanent cookie that expires in 2038
    • Log every click you make on any website via the Google tool bar
    • Link hits on Google analytics scripts to your ID (via the cookie)
    • Censor information on behalf of various governments, including the US
    • Censor independent news sources
    • Not make any statements about which data they collect or what they do with it

    If a local law would force Google to hand over the data of people I am confident that they will. You are confident that it they wont't, which from my point of view is naive. It's the difference between the real world and the Truman Show.