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Thousands of White House E-mails Deleted
kidcharles writes "The Washington Post reports that in the midst of an investigation by the U.S. Congress into the firing of eight U.S. Attorneys by the Department of Justice, numerous White House e-mails have been lost. Among them are communications from presidential adviser Karl Rove. Parallels are being drawn with the infamous '18 minutes' missing from the Nixon Watergate tapes. Also at issue is the use of Republican National Committee e-mail domains (such as gwb43.com and georgewbush.com) rather than the official White House domain. This is a violation of the Presidential Records Act."
All of this red tape is making things run slower and with less efficiency. Although I am all for recording 'official communication', I think they can go too far at times. If people are going to be sending emails for fraudulent activity, then I would not exactly consider it 'official communication'. If they send emails using different accounts for the sake of convenience, then we haven't much to worry about. The government is already far too inefficient. I say we need less red tape and fewer 'investigations'.
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Lies you say... People like to throw around that term. I'd like you to cite one example where the administration knowingly deceived the American public. Just because you say he lied doesn't make it so.
It's possible, and likely, he was misinformed. But being misinformed doesn't constitute a lie. Not only that, many democrats were privy to the very same information the president was and they chose to support the war. Did they lie? The UN believed Saddam had had weapons of mass destruction. Did they lie? Europe also believed Saddam had those weapons. Did they lie? Saddam Hussein himself has used those weapons in the past. I guess that was made up.
And WMDs have been found in Iraq even if the media chooses not to report it. I'll concede they haven't been found in any significant quantities, so they don't really pose much of a thread. Not for a WMD anyway. But some have been found.
Bush undoubtedly had unpopular reasons for going into Iraq, but he didn't get this nation into a war because of lies.
She may not be running massive deficits, but she's certainly hasn't stopped padding "emergency" appropriations bills with plenty of pork. And she's being just a tiny bit treasonous in the technical sense by hanging out in Syria, passing along messages from the Israelis... something I'm willing to overlook as justified, but technically running afoul of the Logan Act, though IANAL. She'll get away with it, though, since Bush is in no position to go after her. IMHO, she's just another Washington politician now... a little disappointing since she always seemed so down on this stuff when she had no real power to act.
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any posting that passes on the talkin' point that "Plame was not covert" should be modded +5 Troll
Why? Because it takes all the fun out of it for everyone? It's not very contructive for any CIA employee (aside from the usual, very visible appointees, etc) to be known to the public, even if - like Plame - they haven't been overseas in more than the number of years that make discussions of their status naughty under the 1982 IIP. Richard Armitage probably should have known better, but DID go running right to the special prosecutor when he realized what was going on, and did a mea culpa. And of course, the special prosecutor was on a fishing expedition, and decided to have more fun while he was as it. Novak agrees that it was Armitage, and that really does pretty well cover it. Someone working for the white house conversationally acknowledging the connection (mentioned by the reporter!) between a policized guy like Wilson (who was lying about his trip and his characterization of "reporting" his findings and his "mission" - utter BS) and his wife, who had already been connected to the mess by Armitage via Novak, is clumsy... but not the same as the malicious leak that the Wilsons are liking to portray (because it helps them make money to do so).
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Clinton lied during court testimony to save his own ass during the trial with Paula Jones. It is perfectly within the rights of the trial lawyers to impeach the witnesses, and thats exactly what Paula Jones Lawyer was going. Trying to show that Clinton was sexually irresponible.
So you are saying it s perfectly alright that under court proceedings, its perfectly acceptable to swear under oath to tell the truth, then lie, for whatever pretext?
Okay. Prove it.
Oh? You don't know for sure?
Exactly, and Clinton is very happy over that fact. We've got an '08 campaign to run, people! The media has already buried the story and moved on (but don't you dare fire any lawyers, Mr. Bush! It's not like Clinton did the same thing in the 90s...oh, wait...).
But hey, this is the party that lets its members get away with having bribery cash in the fridge, taking out shady real estate deals, getting caught on tape considering a bribe, hiring activist "journalists" to heckle politicans, etc. This era will be looked back on as the most biased mainstream media in history--no wonder public trust of the liberal media is at an all-time low. You absolutely cannot get a fair shake if you're a Republican in this country. But if you're a Democrat, your scandal will only last for a week at most before the New York Times conveniently sweeps it under the rug and forgets about it.
Democrats have a long history of lying and covering it up with the help of the media. But hey, you guys were the pro-slavery part of the Civil War and the guys who signed in all the Jim Crow laws. You guys are USED to screwing with the public for your own gains. Take a look at the 2004 UCLA/Standford media study sometime that proved the media swings to the left.
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You misspelled "civil rights case in front of a Federal judge".
the rigging of elections via bogus "voter fraud" cases
You misspelled "US Attorneys who wouldn't do their jobs in prosecuting illegal aliens or investigating allegations of voter fraud when levied against Democrats".
U.S. attorneys more loyal to the GOP than they are to the country
You misspelled "more loyal to the President than they are to local Democratic party officials".
And WMD lies that led us into a now-four year war
You misspelled "piss poor intelligence which was agreed upon by every permanent member of the Security Council, proving that after eight years of a Democrat President our intelligence apparatus was so damaged it couldn't determine what the actual truth of the situation was".
Wow, dude, you need to switch to Firefox, it's got a spell checker built-in. That should help a lot in the future.
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Sure. Complain about some missing emails. Do you keep all you emails? How many email accounts do you have? I didn't notice any complaints when a former Clinton Administration official admitted to stealing & destroying official records from the national archive to destroy. I don't hear any complaints about what they are hiding, and I also don't see any slashdot articles on it.
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Yes. I am surprised that we are investigating a 100% legal firing of attorneys. President Clinton fired ALL of them when he came into office. Aren't any of you disgusted by the waste of resources on a non-issue?
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Nope, not surprised in the least. I am not surprised that the drive-by media is once again pouncing on anything that puts down the President and lifts up the democratic party. I am not surprised that the same press that allows Clinton to shag every office intern without note, loves to waste print on the democratic party-induced scandal investigations.
I would actually be surprised if the democratic party-controlled legislature would pass at least one bill of substance for the President to sign. Nope, we get an Iraq funding bill with $200 Billion in pork barrel spending attached. Way to Democrats! Woo hoo! Oh, how about that $400 Million increase in taxes they are proposing? I don't see the drive-by media storming the gates with that headline.
Surprised that the President's folks deleted e-mail. Not in the least. If this dragnet of conspiracy was cast over the entire government, both sides of the lines are just as guilty, just as stupid and just as fruitless in actually serving the people of this nation.
Here is my proposal: Stop the investigations! Work on funding for improving education, science, research, housing, nutrition. Hey, I have an idea, how about our government actually show itself as one body and one mind instead of handing over our nation to the terrorist on a silver platter.
End of Political Rant.
Move along, there is nothing to see here.
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Her neighbors were "stunned" to hear she was CIA.
And the folks in the White House weren't stunned at all when reporters brought it up in regular conversation, since it was well known in the state-diplo circles, which is probably why Richard Armitage was so cavalier about spilling it to Novak in the first place. My neighbors have no idea what I do, by they way. And the few people that do really couldn't get past "he does computer stuff." And anyone that lives in the DC area (which I do) and pretends to be "stunned" when someone with an ex-ambassador husband has ties to the diplo-intel world is, frankly, either BSing themselves or too dumb about life in DC to be worth quoting on this sort of thing. You can't swing a dead cat in the DC suburbs without hitting someone who isn't real obvious about their job, but who also has lots of cocktails with people who know exactly what line of work they're in, legitimately or not.
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FDR put Japanese-Americans into camps because there was fairly substantial evidence of espionage and treason by Japanese-American citizens preceeding the Pearl Harbor attack. I won't lie and say conditions were wonderful in these camps, but very few people actually died in them. You're probably thinking of the camps with Zyclon-B and the pits full of dead bodies.
you continue to talk about Plame's covert status as a "myth"
The fact that a deputy undersecretary of state was casually aware of where she worked is exactly what I'm talking about. Actually covert agents aren't known at all to people that far removed from their food chain. That's the entire point to this little soap opera.
And do you REALLY think that the loudest, angriest, most anxious-to-sign-Kyoto types are really the well-rounded, scientifically trained experts that they should be, if they're going to comment on the degree to which humans, specifically, are a driver in climate change? Really ask yourself how most people digest those pronounciations, and you'll have more of that "true believer" stuff than you'll care to choke down.
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And the prosecution of those guilty of this violation is where? The whole thing was dropped because there WAS NO LAW BROKEN. No crime.
Pull your head out of your ass, ..., and quit spreading such bald-face lies.
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This whole attorney firing "scandal" is bogus. The president can do this. Clinton fired over 90 in one swing, as I recall an no one seemed too concerned then. This is his right as president. This is less about "integrity" and certain has nothing to do with legality and is more about "everything Bush does has to be wrong."