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The Fine Art of 'Boss Science'

BoredStiff writes "NYMag has up an article that explores Boss Science and the minds of American corporate leaders. In the real world, bosses are known to suffer from a long list of social pathologies: naked aggression, credit hogging, micromanaging, bullying, you name it. Leadership research shows that subtle nasty moves like glaring and condescending comments, explicit moves like insults or put-downs, and even physical intimidation can be effective paths to power. Research also shows that employees tend to see the jerk as boss material. The article goes on to discuss some of the science bosses apply to making an operation run smoothly: 'A researcher reported that one law firm deconstructs its HR needs by personality traits. It insists on extremely bright employees who are also extremely insecure. 'They want them to think that working really hard matters,' he explains. Through this prism, personality types can even be mixed and matched to make a team function more efficiently.'"

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  1. Conversely by BWJones · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or! You can find the best talent there is, treat your employees with respect, compensate them fairly (or very well if they are particularly valuable) and work from the perspective that a place of work is a place of education where people will gather skills and hopefully work to the best of their ability. The danger of this is that they will not stay because they are hired away, but honestly if your employees are not being recruited by everyone else out there, they are not the best and brightest.

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    1. Re:Conversely by mdkess · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think one of the big issues with this is that becoming a manager is the only way that an employee can advance their career. So when your brilliant engineer decides that he needs more money, his or her only option is to go into management, and the company ends up losing a talented engineer and ends up with a bad manager who probably wishes they could be an engineer again, and all of a sudden doesn't like his job anymore. Also, you might have an average engineer who would be a great manager, but the system fails again in this regard because this guy won't get noticed.

    2. Re:Conversely by BWJones · · Score: 2, Insightful

      HP used to have a policy of only promoting people to management who had been engineers. This had a couple of benefits including the managers ability to know work flows and products as well as still allowing the manager to be able to participate in the work and product development. This of course changed as part of the culture shift at HP around the same time somebody had the bright idea of canceling their RPN calculators.

      However, to more directly answer your point, smarter companies distribute managerial duties amongst a number of senior people yet still allow those people to participate in the work. Of course they need to understand that a manager does not necessarily mean a pay scale increase. Rather they need to continue to reward their productive employees with different pay scales for say engineering (apprentice, junior, blah blah blah, senior, fellow).

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    3. Re:Conversely by BWJones · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure, you can do that and sleep like a baby...

      Or, you can stay far enough in front that nobody else knows or is ready for what you are doing. Admittedly this is easier in the hard core sciences (where I live). When you start making widgets or providing services, all bets are off here.

      And what's more, once someone starts bending the rules, everybody *has* to do the same or be left behind to shrivel and die.

      Alternatively, you could act in an honorable manner and expect, no demand that those companies who work with you/for you/supply to you also act with honesty and respect for their employees and customers.

      Yes it would be nice if the world was fair. It might even be the sign that we're a civilised society. However currently the world is what it is (i.e. certainly not fair at all) and that is one of the most important lessons to be learned, bitter as it is.

      This is the problem we are currently facing with big business and politics. Everybody has come to expect that our politicians and industry leaders are pathological liars with no ability or willingness to do the right thing. Is this acceptable? If we accept this, does it mean the fall of our culture/civilization? The USA is only a couple hundred years old you know...

      On a side note, it might be useful to remember that the legal system doesn't have anything to do with being fair.

      Funny, in civics class back in high school and college, fairness was what we were taught the legal system was all about. The establishment of rules and laws that enabled the Constitutional structure that this country was built upon.

      Would you expect physics to be fair ?

      Physics is what it is... A set of rules and laws that govern a reasonable set of expectations that are set in a framework of understanding. Law should be like that, but we have this little notion called free will. Humans fsck it all up, but physics itself is pure. The trick is that humans can be punished when they violate cultural laws while physicists are celebrated for violating physical laws.

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    4. Re:Conversely by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      People are trained from the cradle onwards to compete against against one another, never to cooperate. That's not actually true. People are taught to cooperate for most of their formative years. Cooperate with your team, compete against the other guy's team. This is as old as the cavemen. Our tribe good, their tribe bad. It can be seen at scales from "family" to "nation". Seriously, haven't you ever met one of those creepy fucks who've been taught by their sicko parents to "win at all costs"? Full of anger and jealousy at the slightest victory by someone else? That's what someone "trained from the cradle onwards to compete" looks like.
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  2. Works for elections too! by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "employees tend to see the jerk as boss material."

    And voters tend to see the jerk as presidential material.

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  3. What matters then? by touch0phgmail.com · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It insists on extremely bright employees who are also extremely insecure. 'They want them to think that working really hard matters,' he explains.
    Then what really does matter in the workplace?

    1. Re:What matters then? by winkydink · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Succeeding. It's just as easy to work hard on the wrong thing.

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    2. Re:What matters then? by Anomolous+Cowturd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Getting shit done.

      Some people can get shit done without working really hard.

      Some people work really hard and never seem to get anything done.

      Which would you rather employ?

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  4. The Enneagram by khasim · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's not just your workers, it's what the workers want out of the job. Do they want to be seen as the heros? Do they want the drama? Do they want to it to be done exactly right? Do they want to tell other people to do the work?

    There are a number of books focused on that. The Enneagram covers 9 different styles.

    Take that and apply the Peter Principle and you have a good understanding of why bosses are such jerks. 8 out of 9 times, they won't have the same goals that you have (and the other time they'll be in active competition with you) and they're not skilled enough to handle the situation.

  5. The reason why the jerks become the bosses by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Simple. It's been said already. They suffer from a few pathologies. Micromanagement ("look, he's puttng work into the fine details and doesn't ignore the minor things"), credit hogging ("And Smith from dpt. X was again the one who did it"). So who gets promoted? The guy with the toughest ellbows.

    Of COURSE it's the jerk. And that also proves true the old saying "Those who can do, those who can't supervise". If they could, they'd be busy doing instead of trying to bully, hog the limelight and putz around with petty details.

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  6. It depends upon the job. by khasim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Heros I can take working for me. They tend to work very hard, are people pleasers and can often be trusted (they make good classified materials risks).

    Those aren't the heros I was referring to. I'm talking about the ones who skip steps that they know aren't needed ... and then show everyone how great they are when they fix the problems. Even though those problems would have been caught earlier or prevented if all the steps had been followed. On the other hand, heros make good firefighters (real ones, who put out real fires).

    These people I *don't* want to work with. They are always sabotaging productivity in the name of something happening where they are at the center of attention.

    Drama r0xx0r in advertising and entertainment and fashion and so forth. If you're doing tech, drama SUCKS!

    Fine, but allow them the opportunity to see failure as a learning experience.
    :D
    Not when you're managing a nuclear plant. (Which is also a bad match for the heros and drama queens.)

    What personality types you want on your team (if you even want a team) depends more on what the job is. If you get the right mix at the right job, you won't even need a boss. But that's extremely rare.

    But I think the biggest problem with that article is that it mentions some of the different types ... but then doesn't try to look at the "jerk's" relationship with those other types. What happens when you have two narcissistics on a team? They can't BOTH be the boss. What if you have two assholes? Two jerks? THREE?

    And they only really covered one type: the narcissistic who won't even stick around but hops to a new job as soon as one is available.

    Now imagine working for a perfectionist jerk (do it over and get it right this time).
    Or a drama queen jerk (watch "The Devil Wears Prada").
    Or a hero jerk (nothing leaves his desk until it's a crisis).
  7. There are two problems wih that theory. by hey! · · Score: 3, Insightful

    First of all there is agency costs. Jerks -- people who exploit people for their personal benefit -- don't confine themselves to screwing their underlings. They just exploit their superiors more carefully.

    Come to think of it, buying into the notion that being a jerk makes you an effective manager may explain a lot of things. Like Enron.

    The second problem is that there is a much more obvious explanation for why most bosses tend to act like jerks. They're over their heads. Most negative behaviors are defensive behaviors to cover up for the fact that things are out of control. Most people never receive any trainign in leadership. In fact they don't receive much traning in the mnagement tasks they have to do. They're just promoted until they reach a level where their dysfunction is so severe only a moron would promote them any higher. And a few of them work for morons.

    Imagine a person in a boss role who happens to be splendidly equipped for that role. He has strong people and communication skills, a knack for organization, a good knowledge of the field he is working in as well as management techniques. Is he likely to be a jerk?

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  8. Re:One of the greats.. but still an @$$hole by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Insightful
    So, in this rambling, what I'm trying to say, is that not all bosses are assholes.. and maybe it becomes a learned trait. Maybe the system and society wear them down... maybe they become that way because that is what is expected or maybe they see those who are assholes really moving up the corporate ladder.

    See The Godfather parts 1 and 2 for a fine illustration of this principle at work.

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  9. Re:management and pay scales by xtal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A few secrets:

    - Management typically sees engineers as a means to an end, and an interchangable means at that. You pay market rate for engineering and they get the job done. Engineers do NOT make companies money - products do. If you want to make money as an engineer, you do NOT do it as an employee. You do it the way lawyers do - the retainer and contract model. Engineers are STUPID for agreeing to be employees. You sold your soul (and market power) for an easy paycheque.

    - Profit comes from managing capital, NOT engineering. Managers are paid more because they manage the capital. That's what makes companies work.

    I don't agree with all this, but it's based on my observtions of how the world works. If you want to make money as an engineer, look at how lawyers do it. Otherwise, you better be an entrepreneur, or willing to work the corporate management ladder.

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  10. Re:management and pay scales by ross.w · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Engineers do NOT make companies money - products do.
    Unless you work for a consulting firm, where you ARE the product. I have found you get treated with a lot more respect usually.
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  11. Re:management and pay scales by syousef · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Management typically sees engineers as a means to an end, and an interchangable means at that. You pay market rate for engineering and they get the job done. Engineers do NOT make companies money - products do. If you want to make money as an engineer, you do NOT do it as an employee. You do it the way lawyers do - the retainer and contract model. Engineers are STUPID for agreeing to be employees. You sold your soul (and market power) for an easy paycheque.

    There's a lot to be said for stability if you can find it. When you're young and times are good, contracts and retainers serve you well. When times get leaner, or there are other priorities in life, having a secure job is a much better proposition. I think it's obvious you're young and probably don't have family commitments. I think you'll change your mind if you're ever ill for a substantial period, or have a sick child, or there's a large downturn. Summarily calling engineers who take full time paid jobs stupid is at best arrogant.

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