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Firefox Usage Near 25% In Europe

Posted by kdawson on from the edge-of-the-wedge dept.

PARENA writes "French researcher Xiti claims that Mozilla Firefox keeps winning terrain in Europe. 24.1% of Internet users in Europe use Firefox. Slovenia (44.5%), Finland (41.3%), Croatia (36.5%), and Germany (36.2%) lead the way, followed by a group of mostly Eastern European countries. Remarkably, The Netherlands is only at 13.3%, right before Andorra. Oceania maintains a slight lead over Europe, at 24.8%; the rest of the world trails at 11.9% to 15.1%."

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  1. IE States: More Useful? by Gamefreak99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't it be more useful to look at the stats for Internet Explorer than those for Firefox? I'm sure many Europeans use Opera or Safari, besides just Firefox?

    Got to give props to the Firefox guys though. They're getting there :)

  2. Two important questions... by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. It mentions 96,000+ web sites were monitored for the purpose of determining this. What were they? Were they evenly distributed by raw population? By internet-using population?

    2. Does this survey make any attempt to take into account 'individual PC users' vs. 'internet cafe' users? i.e. Is this percentage of COMPUTERS or percentage of USERS? (Or, more likely, percentage of individual web hits?)

    I can't find any technical details on how this survey was conducted, other than the slight mention of number of websites involved.

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    1. Re:Two important questions... by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Another question,and this is not a troll.

      For years many OSS and Firefox proponents have claimed that MS crippled the web and killed innovation with IE. Now that the IE monopoly is crumbling whats changed? I dont use either browser and frankly my browsing experience is the same as it has been for the last few years. Wheres all this innovation I was told I was missing?

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    2. Re:Two important questions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We aren't held back by everybody using Internet Explorer. We are held back because enough people use Internet Explorer. Even if only one in ten people use Internet Explorer, that's enough to force the average website to ensure compatibility.

      Furthermore, it's a vicious circle. If web developers aren't taking advantage of nifty things like SVG, then there's far less pressure on browser vendors to incorporate these features.

  3. Re:sounds way of low for home users by westlake · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'm getting around 82% firefox, 16% IE.
    OS platforms are 88% windows, 9% Mac, and nearly 3% Linux.

    This tells me nothing until I know the target audience for your site and the number of visitors.

  4. Re:Ballmer chair jokes.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    only if "excellent" means 'lucky' in Microserf-speak. Microsoft was handed a monopoly by IBM and they've ridden that monopoly all the way to the bank. Also, they've throw away 10s of billions of dollars doing nothing but preventing the real innovators in the market from profiting from excellent( the real one ) new products of their own. Failure at everything but their desktop leveraged monopoly is a good sign of 'MS-excellence'.

    did I see something about "a clue"? doh.

  5. Attention Dumbshit Moderators by mr_matticus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not a trolling post just because you don't like it or because you don't understand it.

    Complacency and apathy is exactly the sort of reason why Microsoft still commands the desktop and why people aren't switching over to superior products like Firefox. It's also the reason why alternative fuels are struggling to take off (fossil fuels are still profitable for producers and cheap for consumers) and why it takes near-catastrophe for the United States to enact appropriate social and environmental policy.

    Since I am an American, you can take your indignation at my criticism and shove it.

  6. Re:Yeah but... by Foofoobar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah and wasn't legalized prostitution, hashish and Monty Python also popular in Europe? Shows you that they have it al over us and US. :)

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  7. Languages? by RealGrouchy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Could it have anything to do with how easy it is to get Firefox in your local language?

    Correct my North-American egocentrism, but aren't most of the countries listed predominantly non-English speaking?

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  8. Re:Linux came from Europe... by feranick · · Score: 3, Insightful

    First Linux is the kernel. Second: that is not the point. Great things are developed anywhere.

  9. Re:Yeah but... by shaitand · · Score: 4, Insightful

    'Wasn't the Amiga also popular in Europe at some point? Nothing wrong with the Amiga, just pointing out that you can't always use Europe as a gauge for success. ;-)'

    You might be right. But the Amiga was vastly superior to any other PC available at the time (or for some time after Commadore went out). Hell they still used Amigas for the graphics on Babylon 5 years after Commadore went out. It could be that Europeon usage is a measure of quality rather than success?

  10. Re:Yeah but... by shaitand · · Score: 4, Insightful

    'Yeah and wasn't legalized prostitution, hashish and Monty Python also popular in Europe? Shows you that they have it al over us and US. :)'

    Yes it does, prostitution and hashish are just good clean fun. The US just has a problem with them because it was founded by puritans and remains full of pruds to this day. Snooby pruds at that, here in the US we actually think our outlook is superior because our outlook includes viewing ourselves as superior.