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NY Governor to Target Violent Video Games

NoMoreGuns writes to tell us that Governor Eliot Spitzer is planning to target violent movies and video games in a new bill. "Spitzer said he wants to restrict access to these videos and games by children, similar to motion picture regulations which prohibit youths under 17 from being admitted to R-rated movies without a parent or adult guardian. Under Spitzer's proposal, retailers who sell violent or degrading videos or video games to children contrary to the rating would be sanctioned."

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  1. Election time already? by TomRC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Back to focusing on trivial things, while important problems go un-addressed.

    1. Re:Election time already? by __aaleib9616 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Too late, the ever popular Jack Thompson was on a talk show not 4 hours after the fact, and then Dr. Phil implied that videogames pushed the gunman over the edge a little while later.

    2. Re:Election time already? by Convector · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I might add that this was before the gunman's NAME had even been established, and there was no way to know if he had ever played a videogame of any type.

  2. Bad headline! by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless I'm really misreading this, he isn't targeting the violent games at all. What he's targeting is the sale of violent games to minors, in the manner of R-rated movies.

    I expect that sort of misleading headline from the mainstream press, but Slashdot should really have fixed it.

    1. Re:Bad headline! by sqlrob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      *NOT* in the manner of movies. That's the problem.

      Movies do not have this regulation. All media or none.

    2. Re:Bad headline! by Fred_A · · Score: 4, Funny

      It really went downhill after "Death-Death-Death-And-Blood 5" anyway...

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    3. Re:Bad headline! by SEE · · Score: 5, Informative

      There are no laws enforcing the movie ratings system. It is perfectly legal to allow a six-year-old to rent or buy a film rated R or NC-17. It is merely social custom and private policies of vendors which restrict such activities.

      Laws prohibiting the sale of indecent materials to minors do exist, but they exist independent of the ratings system, and already fully apply to video games.

    4. Re:Bad headline! by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There are legal restrictions preventing sale of porn to minors, but no legal restrictions for violence. If your blockbuster won't let twelve year olds rent "Death-Death-Death-And-Blood 7" it is due to store (or corporate) policy, not due to regulation.


      It's a matter of local and state laws, not federal laws. There are no federal laws banning the sale of any movies to minors, AFAIK. However, most states have laws regarding the sale of pornography or movies with strong sexual content. Surprisingly, most states do NOT have laws concerning violence.

      So what we as a society are saying is that it's okay for kids to see people shooting, stabbing, kick boxing, or whatever else to each other in a violent rage, but HEAVEN FORBID if any minors see NAKED PEOPLE or, worse, two people engaged in a perfectly normal act that is part of our biological survival process as a species. Hmmm, I wonder which would inhibit the development of a child more...?
    5. Re:Bad headline! by RedHat+Rocky · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "So what we as a society are saying is that it's okay for kids to see people..."

      Incorrect. The body of law may seem to imply that, but certainly I as a parent don't. And I'm sure most of my fellow parents feel the same way.

      Parents should be responsible for their children, not the government.

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  3. I don't see the problem with this law by SilentChris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe I'm missing the big picture, but what's the problem with preventing minors from buying games specifically market for adults? I know legally there's been no teeth in it up until now (and parents should really be watching out for their kids) but what's the objection to this? The only group I would think could possibly object is minors.

    1. Re:I don't see the problem with this law by Khaed · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm an adult, and I have a problem with it.

      If the law just targets video games, then that is unfair. Other than pornography, there are no laws about content being sold to minors.

      Video games, like movies, are voluntarily rated. There is no law to enforce the movie ratings, as far as I am aware, and so there shouldn't be one for video games.

      Another poster here said, "All media, or none." And I agree.

  4. While we're at it... by KenshoDude · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Lets ban children from watching, listening to, or reading the news. There are all kinds of accounts of anti-social behaviors contained in the news. Shouldn't we be "protecting the children" from that too?

    Besides, are social problems like school related shootings really being encouraged by video games, or is it possible that massive news coverage plays a larger role? I mean, I take what I see on TV to be a lot more "real" and "possible" than anything I see on a video game.

  5. Here we go again. by MrShaggy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Interesting that the supreme court(?) has just struck down this very same bill, in Louisiana. The Judge berated the state for trying to undermine the constitution, as well as not seeing what has happened to very similar bills in other states. They also made the state pay out the 94,000$ in lawyer fees that the gaming industry had to pay in order to fight this.

    Apparently there was a quote from the group responsible for the bill saying that they would try again. Millions of dollars wasted in 'thinking of the children', when most stores do that anyway.

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  6. Re:Fine, sanction the retailers... by Billosaur · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That way, when the kid gets it from his inept, irresponsible, moronic parents

    As the saying goes, "you can't legislate stupidity." Parents are increasingly irresponsible and clueless when it comes to what their children say and do. We're having trouble with my 10-year-old stepson because he feels we're being unfair because we won't let him have games rated T-for-Teen, or have his own cell phone. He rails at us because we won't simply let him go where he wants, when he wants, and we won't continuously feed his bad habits. He constantly tells us how "other kids' parents don't do this," to which my standard reply is "I don't care what other parents do." And I don't, because I see how other parents let their children push them around, guilt them into buying them things, browbeat them when they don't get what they want. And these people cave in!

    But again, that's what they decide to do. Parents will do stupid things and while you can make those things illegal, you can't make people not do them. Parents have to decide for themselves that buying these games for their children are a bad idea.

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  7. Re:Let me see if I've got this... by bockelboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know for a fact that in Arizona selling an M rated game to a minor is illegal and actually punishable by some law

    I know for a fact this is not true. For a writeup of this, see:
    http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070223-8915 .html
    Video game restrictions, unless if it has something to do with pornography, are voluntary, just like movie restrictions are. Now, mind you, you have to look hard to find someone willing to violate these restrictions, which is why many people mistake this for a law.