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Canadian MP Calls For ISP Licenses, Content Blocks

An anonymous reader writes "A member of Canada's ruling Conservative party has pledged to "clean up" the Internet with new bill that would mandate ISP licensing, know-your-subscriber rules, and allow the government to order ISPs to block content. ISPs that fail to block would faces possible jail time for the company's directors and officers."

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  1. Re:what's happening by belmolis · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's always disturbing to see things like this, but this is nothing to worry about. The bill is a "private member's bill". That means that her party isn't interested. Even worthwhile private member's bills that would receive a lot of support if sponsored by the party have little chance of passage. Furthermore, she isn't a prominent member of the party. It's very unlikely that this bill will go anywhere.

  2. Direct link to the Act by dleigh · · Score: 5, Informative
    http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publicati on.aspx?Language=E&Parl=39&Ses=1&Mode=1&Pub=Bill&D oc=C-427_1&File=24#1

    Some lowlights:

    "Internet service provider" means a person who provides a service that facilitates access to the Internet, whether or not the service is provided free or for a charge.

    4. (1) No person may offer the services of or operate as an Internet service provider unless the person has been granted a licence to operate as an Internet service provider in accordance with subsection (2).
    So if I let my flatmates share my internet connection, that makes me an ISP without a licence?

    (8.4) No person shall respond to a contact that is made using the Internet for the purpose of facilitating a designated offence involving a child.
    Which makes telling a paedophile to get help an offense. On the upside, this could cut down on some of the vigilantism.
  3. Re:The Bible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If I am mistaken, please enlighten me and show me exactly where explicit violence targeting women (i.e. beating, raping, torture, etc) is promoted in The Bible.

    "Suppose a man marries a woman,
    and says, "I married this woman;
    but when I lay with her, I did not
    find evidence of her virginity." ...
    If, this charge is true, that evidence
    of the young woman's virginity was
    not found, then they shall bring the
    young woman out to the entrance
    of her father's house and the men
    of her town shall stone her to death."
    Deut 22:13-21

  4. Re:what's happening - The conservatives. by guidryp · · Score: 1, Informative

    The new Conservatives are like the US Republicans little brother, intent on proving they can hang with big brother. A little anti-gay marriage rhetoric, some Kyoto bashing, tax cuts for the wealthy, increased military spending and an increasing desire to use it.

  5. Re:The Bible by Paulrothrock · · Score: 4, Informative

    Exodus and Leviticus are chock full of prescribed punishments for women who do everything from sleep with another man (stoning) to practice "witchcraft" (stoning) to a slave having sex with her master (that's a stoning) to stating that women are "worth" about 50-70% what a man is worth.

    Though like most Christians you'll insist that none of that stuff matters anymore. Why then, I ask you, is it still in your holy book, and why do people point to the same book when talking about other "moral codes."

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    I'm in the hole of the broadband donut.
  6. Re:Yeah, right... by SQL+Error · · Score: 3, Informative

    Right now there is a push to force ISPs to use content filtering, in fact the Fed Govt has a tender out now to evaluate effectiveness or otherwise of filtering technology.
    This happened years ago. But by the time it became law, it had been so watered down that the only real requirement was for ISPs to inform their customers that filtering software was available.
  7. Re:what's happening - The conservatives. by guidryp · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't listen to the NDP on anything. I can see massive military spending increases and jingoistic speeches for myself. My information comes straight from the mouths of the conservatives themselves who were just spouting the tired empty rhetoric that following the Kyoto protocol would result in economic disaster, they have engaged in multiple round of anti-gay marriage rhetoric. Charles McVety (CFAC, Canadas Jerry Fallwell) has a strong working relationship with the harper conservatives, and was drafted by Harper to sell his "child care plan".

    This McVety:
    http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ ID=52904

  8. Re:Yeah, right... by badfish99 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Of course the list is secret, because publishing it would be tantamount to publishing a list of "good terrorist and child porn sites", and no government would want to do that!

    If it's the same "clean feed" technology that the UK government forces all ISPs to "voluntarily" use, then you might like to look at this paper (pdf) which describes how to use the system to discover what sites it is blocking, and perhaps will give you some ideas on how to circumvent it.

  9. Helps if I actual post the whole thing :( by Xocet_00 · · Score: 2, Informative

    "We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old."

    - Winston Churchill

  10. Re:Yeah, right... by SQL+Error · · Score: 4, Informative

    Funny, I ran the technical operations for an ISP until last November and I never heard of that list.

    There is a list of sites that have been shut down, but those are sites that were hosted in Australia. There's no list of sites that you're not allowed to access. There simply isn't any filtering in place to do that.

  11. Re:what's happening by Phisbut · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is it me, or is Canada going completely mad?

    Things have indeed gotten slightly out of hands since we elected the Conservatives, which seem to be a little too close to Bush for my tastes. Unfortunately, the people seem to like them, and there is only one matter that keeps the Conservatives from being able to be reelected as a majority government: Afghanistan. If Harper finds a way out of Afghanistan, he'll get the public support he needs to get reelected, and that's bad for all of us.

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    After 3 days without programming, life becomes meaningless
    - The Tao of Programming
  12. Scandinavia allready has this madness :-( by SplatMan_DK · · Score: 3, Informative

    Such madness is allready in effect in Denmark, where ISP's have been forced to deny their customers access to the russion MP3 music store "AllOfMP3". Not surprisingly, this step was forced by the music industry (IFPI). - Jesper

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    My security clearance is so high I have to kill myself if I remember I have it...
  13. Write to her, it's free! by Stavr0 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Joy Smith, MP
    424 Confederation Building
    Ottawa, ON, K1A 0A6

  14. Re:what's happening - The conservatives. by ergo98 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The new Conservatives are like the US Republicans little brother

    This is a private member's bill, and despite the fact that it came from a Conservative MP, the same sort of nonsense has come from Liberals and the NDP. Indeed, this is the sort of bill that usually comes from a Liberal (because they're all about talk and no action, and everyone with any brains knows this won't ever lead to action).

    A little anti-gay marriage rhetoric, some Kyoto bashing, tax cuts for the wealthy, increased military spending and an increasing desire to use it.

    I am disturbed by the ignorance of some of my fellow Canadians are.

    The Liberals did NOTHING to achieve Kyoto targets, despite having a majority party for over a decade.

    Nothing.

    Being pragmatic about Kyoto, and actually talking about the reality of it is quite a bit different than "bashing" it. Personally I find such honesty a lot more acceptable than the rhetoric and lip service we'll-say-what-gets-us-voted Liberal policy.

    Increased desire to use the military? You mean like how the conservatives sent us to Afghanistan? Oh, right, that was the Liberals. Oh, maybe it's that we're in a new, offensive capacity? Oh, wait, the Liberals sent us in as front-line special forces and head-exploding snipers.

    Hrmm...now I'm confused.

    And wait, don't I recall the Liberals preparing to go on a military spending spree to buy themselves out of the mess they created? Why yes, I do.

    As for the "anti-gay marriage rhetoric" -- yeah, those damn Conservatives believe in a democracy, and allowing each riding to voice an opinion. Damn them! So they've banned gay marriage, right? Oh yeah, not even close.
  15. Re:what's happening - The conservatives. by Curtman · · Score: 2, Informative

    Participating in a war in Afghanistan is not, IMO defence as we were never an Afghan target until we involved ourselves.

    Actually it is. NATO has a requirement that if one of our allies is attacked, and wants us to join the fight, we have no choice in the matter. If we didn't honour our obligations and join the US in Afghanistan it would be very bad for our national defense. Iraq has never attacked the US, so we had a choice in that one.

    It's the weekly speeches about how Israel is so great and wonderful and just, combined with the increase in military spending that scare me. Steven Harper is a nut job with far too much power already.
  16. Re:what's happening by NFN_NLN · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.joysmith.ca/

    Parliament Hill
    424 Confederation Building
    Ottawa, ON, K1A 0A6

    Ph: (613) 992-7148

    Looks like my Skype subscription will be put to good use again..

  17. Private Member's bill or not... by iamghetto · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...I'd recommond every Canadian to go to here:

    http://webinfo.parl.gc.ca/MembersOfParliament/Main MPsCompleteList.aspx?TimePeriod=Current&Language=E

    Find their member of parliament and tell them that they will not tolerate motions like this under any circumstance.