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Wal-Mart Begins Massive Push For HD DVD

Several readers sent us word of Wal-Mart's ordering 2 million HD DVD players from China. Hans V wrote, "My kids work at Wal-Mart and the manager there has been talking about this. HD-DVD's are selling like mad there so I hear." Another reader sent us a few links in Chinese and summarized them this way: "The first batches of these blue-laser HD DVD players are to land sometime in 2007, with complete fulfillment of the order [from Fuh Yuan] in 2008. The deal could be worth up to $300 million US, which translates to $150 per player. If so, by the time Christmas 2007 rolls around, Wal-Mart could be selling these for less than $200 retail, although some speculate that the initial manufacturer suggested retail pricing might be in the ballpark of $299. Currently the cheapest high-definition player is a Toshiba HD DVD with an MSRP of $399." By comparison Blu-Ray players, manufactured in Japan, are not expected to drop below $1000 until next year. The International Herald Tribune writes about the risk Toshiba is taking by bringing in Chinese manufacturers to trump Sony in the format war.

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  1. "Writes"? by Goaway · · Score: 4, Informative

    The International Herald Tribune "writes"? How about "wrote, a year and a half ago"?

    1. Re:"Writes"? by DrEldarion · · Score: 5, Informative
      This is a horrible, horrible Slashdot post. Links to an extremely outdated article, says completely inaccurate information (There's already a $599 Blu-Ray player - the PS3), and on top of that the news about Walmart could have also been mistranslated. From Engadget:

      Update: Pull back the reigns HD DVD fanboys, Akihabara now says that they've made a "huge mistake" with their translation: the original source called it "(chinese characters) HD DVD and (same chinese characters) means Blu-RAY." In other words, Blu-ray HD DVD. Huh? Word to the wise: since both formats use blue lasers, it's best to wait for an English press release before either camp celebrates. Way to go Slashdot!
    2. Re:"Writes"? by Mr.Radar · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you follow the link trail back to AVS Forum (and from there to the original press release in Chinese) it is clear that the press release, in fact, talks about HD DVD and not Blu-Ray. This has been confirmed by at least one person who knows Chinese who says the phrase translates to "blue laser HD DVD." An explanation for the awkward phrasing is offered in this post which says that there is an HD format in China that uses a red-diode laser, hence the specification of the laser being blue-diode.

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  2. No, Sony will have a $600 player shortly by tkrotchko · · Score: 4, Informative

    I mean, if I can find it doing a 30 second search over at Sony, why can't the author, rather than implying that Blu-Ray players will be $1000 until 2008. The Sony BDP-S300 is due to be released in Summer 2007.

    Here:
        http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity /eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-S tart?ProductSKU=BDPS300

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  3. HD Radio by supersat · · Score: 4, Informative

    Of course, the "HD" in HD Radio doesn't stand for "high defintion" -- it stands for "hybrid digital," meaning that it co-exists with standard analog transmissions in the same channel. iBiquity is taking advtange of the fact that many consumers assume the HD prefix means "high definition," when there's no requirement for the digital transmissions to sound any better (especially if they use the bandwidth for additional subchannels).

  4. Re:EngadgetHD already reported this... by blargster · · Score: 3, Informative

    On the AVS forum, no fewer that six native Chinese speakers confirmed that the news release was referring to HD DVD.

  5. Funny resolutions by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

    when will companies stop selling 18 bit 1366x768 monitors???? 1366x768 is derived from one of the HDTV resolutions popular in Japan. It can display 1280x720 with a tiny border (3% on each side).

    Or 1280x800 That was designed to display 1280x720 plus playback controls.

    1440 x 960, 1680 x 1050 Some of these are laptop screen sizes.

    With 18 bit color depth and piss-poor TN LCDs??? DLP projectors have 1-bit color depth, but each pixel is temporally dithered, that is, turned on and off fast enough that you don't notice. The 18-bit panels don't turn pixels on and off as fast as a DLP projector does, only about 60 to 75 Hz. But a panel running at 72 Hz still displays three fields in a a 24 Hz progressive image and can use spatiotemporal dithering on the low-order bits over the three fields to increase perceived SNR.
  6. Horrible Research Often Helps Dramatic Posts by nick_davison · · Score: 3, Informative

    By comparison Blu-Ray players, manufactured in Japan, are not expected to drop below $1000 until next year. Ignoring the $499 basic model PS3...

    Samsung BD-P1000 $664.99 in store at Best Buy.

    The same player for $699.99 at CompUSA

    Sony 2x2x2 Blu-ray BD-RE, internal ATA drive $699.99 at CompUSA

    The Samsung again for $699 at Circuit City

    Or the newer Samsung BD-P1200 for $799.99 at Circuit City

    Then there's the Lite-On Blu Ray Burner for $399.99 at Fry's

    And the Philips BDP9000 player for $799.99 also at Fry's

    Man, I can't wait for next year when they finally drop below $1000 at places other than every single major retailer.

    That said, the original poster also misquoted the actual article. There was no mention of Blu Ray players as a whole not dropping below $1,000 until next year - simply that Sony themselves aren't planning on dropping prices on their own models until then.

    Yes, a hypothetical glut of HD-DVD players at $200, if WalMart aren't trying to use the low cost to generate large per-unit profits, could have an interesting effect. Still, we're talking 2 million players total... The XBox360 already has a $199 player and a greater than 5m units capable of adding it - yet the format war's hardly been won or even taken a lead.

    That we're looking at a Christmas with next generation DVD players hitting the $200-300 mark is interesting if nothing much more than people were expecting. Overhyping it by misreading, misinterpreting and misstating everything around it, to try to elevate the drama of it however is kind of a shame.
  7. Re:We have a winner! by metamatic · · Score: 4, Informative

    Blu-ray has region locks. HD-DVD doesn't. That alone is reason enough for me to want Blu-ray to die a flaming death.

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