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Next-Gen Processor Unveiled

A bunch of readers sent us word on the prototype for a new general-purpose processor with the potential of reaching trillions of calculations per second. TRIPS (obligatory back-formation given in the article) was designed and built by a team at the University of Texas at Austin. The TRIPS chip is a demonstration of a new class of processing architectures called Explicit Data Graph Execution. Each TRIPS contains two processing cores, each of which can issue 16 operations per cycle with up to 1,024 instructions in flight simultaneously. The article claims that current high-performance processors typically are designed to sustain a maximum execution rate of four operations per cycle.

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  1. I want one by Normal+Dan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But when are they likely to be ready?

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    1. Re:I want one by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny

      But when are they likely to be ready?



      • You know they'll be ready when Intel places large orders for aluminium for heatsinks.
      • You know they'll be ready when there's a sudden drop in prices of the current Hot CPUs, which are all proven but suddenly look like last month's pizza from under the couch.
      • You know they'll be ready when AMD hasn't said anything and they are suddenly shipping them, while Intel tells you in 9 mos. then suddenly says 3 mos. (and you can hear the whips cracking through the walls.)
      • You know they'll be ready when Microsoft doesn't have an operating system ready, but there are a dozen Linux distros good to go.
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    2. Re:I want one by mrbluze · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well i won't buy one until the Super version comes out (STRIPS). Now that's a name that has appeal!

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  2. Hm... by imsabbel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article contains little more information than the blurb.
    But it seems to me that we called this great new invention "vector processors" 15 years ago, and there is a reason they arent around anymore.
    "Many instructions in flight"=="huge pipeline flushes on context switches"+"huge branching penalities" anybody?

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    1. Re:Hm... by superpulpsicle · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Come on now. It's a capitalist market. You can't just innovate your way to fame. Just like the list of 5 million other patents that never see the daylight.

    2. Re:Hm... by volsung · · Score: 5, Informative

      The vector processors never went away. They just became your graphics card: 128 floating point units at your command

      BTW, here is a real article on TRIPS.

    3. Re:Hm... by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, here are the real articles on TRIPS. These and many others can be found here.

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    4. Re:Hm... by SiJockey · · Score: 4, Informative

      The big difference in TRIPS is that stuff flying around out in memory can be squashed easily. The machine has aggressive branch prediction, efficient predication support in the ISA, and data dependence prediction. So, the 1024 instructions don't need to be long vectors streaming from memory. Squashing a mispredicted branch and restarting down the right path takes on the order of 10-20 machine cycles. Thanks for your comments and interest. -DB

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  3. Marketting hype? by faragon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Each TRIPS chip contains two processing cores, each of which can issue 16 operations per cycle with up to 1,024 instructions in flight simultaneously. Current high-performance processors are typically designed to sustain a maximum execution rate of four operations per cycle.

    It's me or are they trying to reparaphrasing, euphemistically, the Out-of-order execution?

    1. Re:Marketting hype? by Aadain2001 · · Score: 4, Informative
      Based on the article, "TRIPS" is nothing more than a Out-Of-Order(OOO) SuperScalar based processor. So unless the article is grossly simplifying (possible), this is nothing but a PR stunt. And based on the quote from one of the Professors about building it on "nanoscale" technology (um, been doing that for years now), my vote is pure PR BS.

      And as an aside, the reason modern CPUs are designed to "only" issue 4 instructions per cycle instead of 16 is because after years of careful research and testing real work applications, 4 instructions is almost always the maximum number of instructions any program can concurrently issue, due to issues like branches, cache-misses, data dependencies, etc. Makes me question just how much these "professors" really know.

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    2. Re:Marketting hype? by smallfries · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Multiway branching is ancient, and it's not used much because it's very inefficient. At least half of the instruction stream after a branch will be canceled, two branches deep it is 75% and so on. No matter how much parallelism ou throw at this there are only marginal gains to made (exponential increase in number of execution units for a linear increase in depth). It still doesn't get around data dependencies which will be the major bottleneck if looking that far ahead in the instruction stream.

      Having read the articles that were easy to get to, and the abstract of the PhD student: this is buzzword bollocks. There is no innovation in what they have done. As other people have pointed out this is a vector / datastream architecture. It's not a very good one at that. Although it has the "potential" to scale to terraflops, so does my toothbrush. On a 130 process they can fit 2 cores with 32-wide dispatch clocked at 500Mhz. My 7800 is fab'ed on a 130 process with 24*4*4 = 384 operation wide vector dispatch. This prototype would hit about 16 billion ops/sec, versus 180 Gflop on the 7800. This is a long way from terraflops, and doesn't convince me that it can scale.

      As the 7800 is close to a systolic model there is a limited class of programs that can be executed; but those that are in that class exhibit (near)perfect parallelism and so have zero hit from memory access costs. Actually the internal bandwidth on the 7800 is a bottleneck for some computations but I'm just going for coarse detail here.

      Edge appears mix and match ideas from several parallel designs; every one of which suffers from hard code generation problems. I suspect that the only sample applications that hit 32 ops / cycle are media apps (or dataflow problems as they used to be called) which normal architectures run at high speed anyway.

      Interesting research, as it's always good to see people explore different designs, but it sounds overhyped and I believe that it has zero commercial appeal. Finally, as a sidenote, you are right about cache latencies being a memory defect rather than processor but there are ways around it. If you are willing to limit yourself to a certain class of applications (roughly the same one that executes well on most parallel architectures such as this, or GPUs) then you can completely avoid the latency. This provides a much bigger performance hike than any other technique as memory latency is a dominating factor in most runtimes. The only snag is that it is very hard to do, requires different fabrication technology (largely solved now), and lots of compiler advances... If you're interested then google for intelligent ram. It's about a decade of research now...

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    3. Re:Marketting hype? by SiJockey · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, there is much more parallelism (more than 4 ops/cycle) available in many of these applications, but you correctly observe that many of these ancillary features (branch mispredictions, cache misses, etc.) chip away at the achieved parallelism. The TRIPS ISA and microarchitecture (which is, as you correctly point out, a variant of an OOO "superscalar" processor) has numerous features to try to mitigate many of these features ... up to 64 outstanding cache misses from the 1,024-entry window, aggressive predication to eliminate many branches, a memory dependence predictor, and direct ALU-ALU communication for making data dependences more efficient. The most important difference is in the ISA, which allows the compiler to express dataflow graphs to directly to the hardware, which will work best (compared to convention) in ultra-small technologies where the wires are quite slow. To get a similar dependence graph in a RISC or CISC ISA, a superscalar processor must reconstruct it on the fly, instruction by instruction, using register renaming and issue window tag broadcasting. Thanks for reading.

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    4. Re:Marketting hype? by David+Greene · · Score: 4, Interesting

      ...this is buzzword bollocks.

      No, it isn't. The TRIPS group has done some really interesting things with compilers, for example. They've managed to have the compiler break up code into packets and schedule them on the processor array so that dependencies flow nicely across the grid. That is not an easy problem to tackle. This is very good research.

      I believe that it has zero commercial appeal.

      That's not the point of research. The point of research is to explore problems no one has tackled before, of course always with an eye toward future technology trends.

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  4. Gets rid of the register-file by DrDitto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The EDGE architecture gets rid of relying on a single register file to communicate results between instructions. Instead, a producer-consumer ISA directly sends results to one of 128 instructions in a superblock (sort of like a basic block, but larger). In this way, hopefully more instruction-level parallelism can be extracted because superscalars can't really go beyond 4-wide (8-wide is a stretch...DEC was attempting this before Alpha was killed). Nice concept, but it doesn't solve many pressing problems in computer architecture, namely the memory wall and parallel programmability.

  5. but... by Klintus+Fang · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The motivations for this technology provided in the article ignore some rather basic facts.

    They point out that current multi-core architectures put a huge burden on the software developer. This is true, but their claim that this technology will relieve that burden is dubious. They mention, for example, that current processing cores can typically only perform 4 simultaneous operations per-core, and imply that this is some kind of weakness. They completely fail to mention that the vast majority of applications running on those processors don't even use the 4 available scheduling resources in each core. In other words, the number of applications that would benefit from being able to execute more than 4 simultaneous instructions in the same core is vanishingly small. This is why most current processors have stopped at 3 or 4. Not because they haven't thought of pushing it beyond that, but because it is expensive, and because it yields very little return on the investment. Very few real-world users would see any performance benefit if the current cores on the market were any wider than 3 or 4. Most of those users aren't even using the 4 that are currently available.

    Certainly the ability to do 1024 operations simulatenously in a single core is impressive. But it is not an ability that magically solves any of the current bottlenecks in multi-threaded software design. Most software application developers have difficulty figuring out what to do with multiple-cores. Those same developers would have just as much (if not more) difficult figuring out what to do with a the extra resources in a core that can execute 1024 simultaneous operations.

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  6. Re:Ix86 by convolvatron · · Score: 4, Insightful

    you are absolutely right. no one should ever do any research into
    something which doesn't ultimately look like an x86.

  7. nothing spectacular by CBravo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Right, let me begin by saying that after reading ftp://ftp.cs.utexas.edu/pub/dburger/papers/IEEECOM PUTER04_trips.pdf it actually became a bit more clear about what they were talking about.

    It might sound very novel if you are only accustomed to normal processors. Look at MOVE http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=103228 8&lastnode_id=0 to see what transport-triggered architectures are about. They are more power efficient, etc etc.

    Secondly, they talk about how execution graphs are mapped onto their processing grid. I don't think any scheduler has a problem with scheduling an execution graph (or whatever name you give it) to an architecture. Generally, it can be scheduled in-time (there is a critical path somewhere) or it is scheduled with a certain degree (generally > .9 efficient) of optimality. I don't see the gain there in efficiency.

    Now here comes the shameless self-plug. If you want to gain efficiency in scheduling a node of an execution graph you have to know which node is more critical than the other. The critical nodes (the ones on the critical path) need to be scheduled to the fast/optimized processing units and the others can be scheduled to slow/efficient processing units (and they can get some communication delays without penalty). Look http://ce.et.tudelft.nl/publicationfiles/786_11_dh ofstee_v1.0_18july2003_eindverslag.pdf here for my thesis.

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  8. This is just an update from year ago... by coldmist · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here is the slashdot article from 2003 about this processor: link

    The specs have been updated to 1024 from 512, but that's about it.

    Another 3-5 years out?

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  9. Don't dismiss it by er824 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I apologize if I butcher some of the details, but I highly recommend that anyone interested peruse the TRIPS website.

    http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~trips/

    They have several papers available that motivate the rationale for a architecture.

    The designers of this architecture believed that conventional architectures were going to run into some physical limitations that were going to prevent them from scaling further. One of the issues they foresaw was that as feature size continued to shrink and die size continued to increase chips would become susceptible to, and ultimately constrained by wire delay. Meaning the amount of time it took to send a signal from one part of a chip to another would constrain the ultimate performance. To some extent the shift in focus to multi-core CPUS validates some of their beliefs.

    To address the wire delay problem the architecture attempts to limit the length of signal paths through the CPU by having instructions send their results directly to their dependent instructions instead of using intermediate architectural registers. TRIPS is similar to VLIW in that many small instructions are grouped into larger instructions (Blocks) by the compiler. However it differs in how the operations within the block are scheduled.

    TRIPS does not depend on the compiler to schedule the operations making up a block like a VLIW architecture does. Instead the TRIPS compiler maps the individual operations making up a large TRIPS instruction block to a grid of execution units. Each execution unit in the grid has several reservation stations, effectively forming a 3 dimensional execution substrate.

    By having the compiler assign data dependent instructions to execution units that are physically close to one another the communication overhead on the chip can be reduced. The individual operations wait for the operands to arrive at their assigned execution unit, once all of operations dependencies are available then the operation fires and its result is forwarded to any waiting instruction. In this way the operations making up the TRIPS are dynamically scheduled according to the data flow of the block and the amount of communications that have to occur across large distances are limited. Once an entire block is executed its can be retired and its results can be written to a register or memory.

    At the block level a TRIPS processor can still function much like a conventional processor. Blocks can be executed out of order, speculatively, or in parallel. They have also defined TRIPS as a polymorphous architecture meaning the configuration and execution dynamics can be changed to best leverage the available parallelism. If code is highly parallelizable it might make sense to allow bigger blocks mapped. However, by performing these type of operations at the level of a block instead of for each individual instruction the overhead is theoretically drastically reduced.

    There is some flexibility in how the hardware can be utilized. For some types of software with a high degree of parallelism you may want very large blocks, when there is less data level parallelism available it may be better to schedule multiple blocks onto the substrate simultaneously. I'm not sure how the prototype is implemented but the designers have several papers available where they discuss how a TRIPS style architecture can be adapted to perform well on a wide gamut of software.