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Encouraging Students to Drop Mathematics

Coryoth writes "The BBC is reporting that students in the UK are being encouraged to drop math at the senior levels. It seems that schools are seeking to boost their standing on league tables by encouraging students not to take 'hard' subjects like mathematics, in favor of easier subjects in which they are assured good grades. The result is Universities being forced to provide remedial math classes for science students who haven't done math for two years. The BBC provides a comparison between Chinese and UK university entrance tests — a comparison that makes the UK look woefully behind."

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  1. Glad to see by afidel · · Score: 5, Funny

    someone else has as messed up an education system as the US.

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  2. finally by Manos_Of_Fate · · Score: 5, Funny

    I heartily endorse this. If I suck at maths then so should everyone else.

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    1. Re:finally by kidcharles · · Score: 2, Funny

      Me feels same way about english.

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    2. Re:finally by jpetts · · Score: 5, Funny

      develop a belief mathematics is useless as a defense mechanism
      I'm sorry, but mathematics is useless as a defense mechanism: if someone has a gun on you, you can't put a Riemannian Manifold or anything like that in the way of the bullet, can you?
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    3. Re:finally by RR · · Score: 5, Funny

      develop a belief mathematics is useless as a defense mechanism
      I'm sorry, but mathematics is useless as a defense mechanism: if someone has a gun on you, you can't put a Riemannian Manifold or anything like that in the way of the bullet, can you?

      But you can put a book describing Riemannian manifolds in front of the bullet.

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    4. Re:finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      ...calculates the trajectory of the bullet including all possible richochet pathways and steps out of the way.

      you were saying?

  3. That's only because... by Cr0w+T.+Trollbot · · Score: 5, Funny
    At over 1 billion, China has twice as many people as the UK's 60 million. So they need math more.

    Anyway, I didn't take any math in school, and it hasn't impaired my reasoning at all!

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    1. Re:That's only because... by digitalderbs · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think you missed a factor of pi in your calculation.

    2. Re:That's only because... by number1scatterbrain · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey, man, got change for a fifty?

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  4. In the US by MikeRT · · Score: 4, Funny

    We'd do it because poooo widdle junior got his feelings by the purple colored (god forbid we use red, that looks... stern!) F on the Math test. What's ironic is that the grade inflation and self-esteem fanaticism are creating overly confident students. They're built up on their own self-worth and esteem, and low and behold, we're having a problem with people with malignant narcissistic personalities...

  5. Re:Insensitive comment alert by miskatonic+alumnus · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't know. Some people earn decent pay once they learn to "suck" something else.

  6. Re:"I Suck at Math!" by realisticradical · · Score: 2, Funny

    The only one it didn't work with was this girl who's parents were paying her expenses and she was frequently drunk, she kept an ice filled cooler in her car stocked with beer. After a couple of weeks I couldn't take it anymore and had to stop tutoring her.
    Said like a true math major.
  7. Re:Interestingly Enough, No Examples Provided by Fyz · · Score: 4, Funny

    It reminds me of the old joke of the plumber and the math professor:

    One professor of mathematics noticed that his kitchen sink at his home broke down. He called a plumber. The plumber came on the next day, sealed a few screws and everything was working as before.

    The professor was delighted. However, when the plumber gave him the bill a minute later, he was shocked.

    "This is one third of my monthly salary!" he yelled.

    Well, all the same he paid it and then the plumber said to him:

    "I understand your position as a professor. Why don't you come to our company and apply for a plumber position? You will earn three times as much as a professor. But remember, when you apply, tell them that you completed only seven elementary classes. They don't like educated people."

    So it happened. The professor got a plumber job and his life significantly improved. He just had to seal a screw or two occasionally, and his salary went up significantly.

    One day, the board of the plumbing company decided that every plumber has to go to evening classes to complete the eight grade. So, our professor had to go there too. It just happened that the first class was math. The evening teacher, to check students' knowledge, asked for a formula for the area of the circle. The person asked was the professor. He jumped to the board, and then he realized that he had forgotten the formula. He started to reason it, he filled the white board with integrals, differentials and other advanced formulas to conclude the result he forgot. As a result he got "minus pi r squared".

    He didn't like the minus, so he started all over again. He got the minus again. No matter how many times he tried, he always got a minus. He was frustrated. He looked a bit scared at the class and saw all the plumbers whisper:

    "Switch the limits of the integral!!"