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EU Approves New Stricter Anti-Piracy Directive

A Pirate writes "The European Parliament has voted for the new report submitted by Italian parliament member Nicola Zingaretti that criminalize even attempts to infringe on copyrights. Even if the new directive excludes end-users from the law it will still criminalize sites like YouTube and practically all P2P services, and even the developers of these services. The exceptions beside the end-users' personal use, includes studies and research. While the European Parliament apparently describes the new directive as a an attempt to harmonize the copyright laws of the European Countries others have been describing it as a lobby directive."

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  1. Don't forget the children! by fanpoe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the fine article

    The EP.....decided that criminal sanctions should apply only to infringements deliberately carried out to obtain a commercial advantage. Piracy committed by private users for personal, non-profit purposes is therefore

    I see a lot of commentary around the web that YouTube's only valid business model is due to turning a blind eye to uploaded copyrighted clips. Having seen how my stepsons use YouTube and similar sites I am not at all convinced that this is the case. They are quite happy with the user generated content.

    1. Re:Don't forget the children! by alphamugwump · · Score: 5, Interesting

      In my experience, the primary attraction of youtube is not the content at all, but the "community". It is difficult to understand until you try it, but posting videos can be incredibly entertaining, due to the amount of attention it is possible to get. With no mods, one can post anything at all that isn't actually obscene, which, practically speaking, makes youtube the perfect environment for a troll. Owing to the way the system counts views and comments (whether positive or not) and gives you honors, anything moderately inflammatory will easily get you on the most-discussed list. Simply put, youtube enables normal people have their own cadre of fanbois.

      That's not to say that I haven't used youtube to watch whole TV series, but if all the copyrighted content were to disappear, I agree that they wouldn't be much affected.

    2. Re:Don't forget the children! by walnutmon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I have no problem with the prosecution of these small time crooks, as long as the worst trouble you can get in for copyright infringement does not exceed the punishment for worse laws... which I would say includes just about everything...

      The people who whine about this shit don't understand that it just isn't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. A very small amount of the population stands to lose, while more of the population stands to gain. But I think that if you get 3 years for copyright infringement and 1 year for beating your wife or six months for aggrivated assault, then there is something seriously wrong with the system. It means that the money being lobbied is more important than the welfare of the people in a country.

      Nothing new in our modern civilized societies though. Ick... that sounded bitter.

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    3. Re:Don't forget the children! by moeinvt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Black spots on your Insightful++

      "The people who whine . . .don't understand that it just isn't that big of a deal"

      Yeah, one minor law isn't that big of a deal. Then the next little restriction is trivial, and a further one is insignificant . . . etc. We call that frog soup.

      "A very small amount of the population stands to lose, while more of the population stands to gain . . ."

      That's a very dangerous line of thinking. The same philosophy would apply if we murdered the richest 1% of the population, confiscated their wealth, and then divided it up equally among the remaining 99%. Who could possibly object to a policy that affects so few and benefits so many?

  2. Copyright as an election issue by hellsDisciple · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Funny how politicians go up for election claiming this, that and the other - usually things like tax, education, health and transport. Then suddenly once they're in, enforcing draconian controls on digital media is what's important - would they get in if that's what they said up front?

    1. Re:Copyright as an election issue by EvilNTUser · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And in addition to that, would even the laws themselves ever be approved if they weren't enforced selectively? If developing file sharing apps is now criminal, they should start their lawsuits here.

      I wonder what they'll try to pull when everyone switches to encrypted and friend-routed sharing...

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    2. Re:Copyright as an election issue by TapeCutter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have for a long time supported the idea that media featuring a politicians official pontifications should automatically be in the public domain so that large media players (with access to..say...the WH press room), can't hoard this stuff in an effort to pick and choose what the public should be constantly reminded of. Media businesses should be compelled to deposit a copy of the raw footage or transcript to an extended public library service (libraians are tougher than they look). I belive in some countries a similar idea was/is a requirement of running a newspaper?

      OTOH: The general public needs to be more forgiving when a politcian "flip-flops", consistency is an admirable trait but impossible for a leader that is willing to listen, learn and adapt to "changes on the ground". "Sorry I fucked up" should not automatically bring calls for resignation, impeachment, ect. (BTW: Don't take this as support for anyone in particular, IMHO some of the neo-cons deserve a CIA trip to ***stan for questioning).

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    3. Re:Copyright as an election issue by montyzooooma · · Score: 3, Funny
      "I wonder what they'll try to pull when everyone switches to encrypted and friend-routed sharing..."

      Jesus! You mean I'm going to need friends now? Those fascists at the **AAs have found my weakness...

  3. No more laws by Ckwop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I want a new directive. One that bans all member states from making any new laws for the next ten years.

    Think about this for a second, think of one piece of legislation passed in the last ten years that has positively impacted anyone you know in the first world? I can't think of a single thing, not one, nothing. Maybe this is a failure of imagination on my part but on the whole laws in the last ten years have been mostly negative.

    Maybe voting is declining in Britain not because of athapy, per se, but because people like myself our realizing the truth. Our politicians are powerless - they can't do a thing to change the plight of the average person on the street. They can raise taxes, lower taxes, pass all sorts of laws but they can't stop the dickheads burning people's bins or the fourteen year olds buying cider to vomit up on the street.

    In short, what's the point in voting when both parties are equally as corrupt and when the decisions taken there never effect you? It's a powerful argument but not one I personally agree with. I vote not for myself but because a great many lives were lost trying to defend that vote. The tragedy is that this generation has come to find that their vote would be more productively used as toilet paper than a means of expressing your opinion.

    We need a new sort of politics. A politics where local issues and common people are listened to. A politics where the career of the politician matters less than serving their constituents. A politics where issues are not decided based on the party your belong to but what improves the lives of the people of the country. We need a politics where an honest politician is not considered an oxymoron. We need a rupture from the past and we need it more urgently than ever before.

    Simon.

    1. Re:No more laws by aitikin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem then arises that things such as education, parks, police, and anything else that isn't quite so important to the general public goes down hill, or at least that's what would happen here "in the colonies."

      The general public has a tendency to not want to spend money on anything that doesn't directly effect them, so they won't care if the police department looses its funding unless they've recently been robbed, they won't care about the money going to schools unless they currently have or plan on having kids in the immediate future, they won't care about the parks unless they live by them. This would only pose more problems in the long run unless the general public suddenly becomes smart, which I don't think can happen.

      As the T-shirt reads, "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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    2. Re:No more laws by jez9999 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I urge everyone to vote Lib Dem. They're committed to improving the electoral system (check out the 'better governance' consultation paper), which includes implementing a system of proportional representation. This is the foundation for good government. They may well have policies that you disagree with; I don't like their fondness for the EU, nor their support of Labour's road charging idea. However we only need them in office for 1 or 2 terms to fix our godawful electoral system, and then we can actually start voting for parties that are actually GOOD, and our vote will be useful. Vote Lib Dem.

    3. Re:No more laws by houghi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I note one proposal to make this Congress a two-house body. Excellent-- the more impediments to legislation the better.

      But, instead of following tradition, I suggest one house of legislators, another whose single duty is to repeal laws. Let the legislators pass laws only with a two-thirds majority... while the repealers are able to cancel any law through a mere one-third minority.

      Preposterous? Think about it. If a bill is so poor that it cannot command two-thirds of your consents, is it not likely that it would make a poor law? And if a law is disliked by as many as one-third is it not likely that you would be better off without it?
                                - Heinlein

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  4. Inciting, Aiding Copyright Infringement a crime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Inciting or abetting or aiding a copyright infringement is also a crime.

    Windows contains a CD ripper, there is no fair use in EU law, you are not allowed to rip CD, Windows is a commercial product, this fits the commercial scale aiding of piracy. It is no different from any other copying device. So how about we demand the criminal prosecution of Microsoft?

    BSA was a strong backer of this law, essentially to protect Windows. So it would be fitting if we could get Microsoft as it's first victim. Nokia next, their phones can play MP3s. They also backed this law.

    You may have difficulty getting enforcement, since this is a dipshit law and the policemen know it, but you can often file Ombudsman complaints against the police if they fail to enforce the law in some cases but not others.

    This is a golden time, every major backer of this law is guilty of some infringement of it. You don't even need to be the copyright holder to file a complaint under this law! How cool is that? A law so vague every MP3 makers, duplicating machine maker, computer maker, phone maker, search engine maker, is guilty of violating it.

  5. Has nasty implications by cyberbob2351 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I fear the day that someone develops a nice killer app that turns out (entirely unexpectedly and unintentionally) to fuel piracy.

    It could be a blog software with a vulnerability that some dev has no time to fix, or it could be some new secure p2p IM service with a casual file transfer built in. Any other software manifestation that carries with it honestly wonderful intentions can be construed as criminal in the hands of its users.

    How does the opensource community, comprised of software authors with no legal protection, manage to protect their continued activities? Does anyone else fear the implications this has for entire opensource OS's and kernels that could somehow be construed as having code that "aids piracy" in some remote fashion? Softmac support in the form of people on wifi hotspots is one example I can think of.

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  6. I don't understand: isn't this good? by cyclop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm all for legalizing free, noncommercial share of copyrighted information (that is, what it's called "end user piracy" today). As far as TFA says, it seems Europe now explicitely protects the end user right to share copyrighted information: something that previous Italian legislation, for example, explicitely *criminalized*, instead.

    It seems to me that the law bans commercial, money-making piracy (that's OK for me). As for the "banning p2p software", I've not found clear references. Can someone explain me better?

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    1. Re:I don't understand: isn't this good? by vivaoporto · · Score: 5, Informative
      Exactly, and it shows how much editorialized is Slashdot these days, trying to make everyone else look worse so U.S. doesn't look so bad. Take a look at this other submission, in the firehose:

      andyteleco writes "Yesterday, 25/04/2007, the European Parliament voted in favour of a proposal to modify the EU Parliament and Congress directive regarding penal measures destined to enforce Intellectual Property rights. the directive finally establishes in Article 3 that the member states will be responsible of considering as a criminal infraction all intentional IP offences committed at a commercial scale, as well as complicity and/or incitement to these offences. According to Amendment 13, Article 2 of the directive excludes culpability of the acts performed by private users for personal non-profit usage. Read the entire text"


      So now E.U. citizens have the explicit right to make private copies for personal non-profit usage (something in line with the Betamax decision on U.S.), but infringement, complicity and incitement to infringement on commercial scale now holds harsher penalties. Slashdot groupthink like to imagine that they are the center of the world, and every piece of legislation is there to restrict their freedom, is aimed to them but in fact, this legislation main target is not even technological "IP" infringement, but good and old school counterfeiting of goods like clothes, bag and perfumes, that happens to be a big issue to France, for instance.

      I'm all for both freedom for private personal copies and jail penalty for petty criminals that sell counterfeit CDs, DVDs and Dolce&Galbanna clothes on flea markets. The fact that this legislation could be interpreted as bad for the likes of YouTube is purely incidental, a side effect that can or cannot be interpreted this way. Now, cut this "MPAA bought E.U." bullshit. You nerds are not the center of the world, and pointing fingers to Venezuela, China, Brazil, E.U., Iran will not make U.S. problems go away.
  7. Liberal Democrat MEP's views by splodus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is the reply I received from my Lib Dem MEP, Graham Watson, who is leader of the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe, to an email I sent him urging him to support amendments to the directive. I think he has quite a good grasp of the issue, and when they failed to get all the amendments included, they voted against.

    Interestingly, my UKIP MEP, Roger Knapman, also voted against...

    Thank you for your email of 23rd April 2007 regarding the directive on
    criminal measures aimed at ensuring the enforcement of intellectual property
    rights. The infringement of intellectual property rights, such as
    counterfeiting and piracy is a growing phenomenon which has a serious
    economic effect on the global scale. The Commission proposed this directive
    to offer additional provisions to strengthen and improve the fight against
    systematic infringement of intellectual property rights.

    Although I am not a member of the Legal Affairs committee which has
    discussed this directive, I am indeed aware of the matter and share a number
    of your concerns about its current drafting. There is general agreement to
    remove patents from the scope of the directive, and I believe it should be
    further restricted. To this end, my Liberal Democrat colleague Sharon Bowles
    MEP tabled a number of amendments for the vote in the European Parliament
    which are concurrent with the aims of the Librarians', Consumers' and
    Innovators' Coalition amendments.

    I understand that Sharon has sought to address the current wording of
    Article 3 which stipulates that "Member States shall ensure that all
    intentional infringements of an intellectual property right on a commercial
    scale, and attempting, aiding of abetting and inciting such infringements,
    are treated as criminal offences". In its place, Sharon proposed that
    "Member States shall ensure that all intentional infringements of an
    intellectual property right on a commercial scale, or wilfully and
    specifically aiding of abetting or inciting such infringements, are treated
    as criminal offences when there are aggravating circumstances of organised
    crime, counterfeiting, piracy or serious risk to health or safety". This
    clarifies that innocent or unknowing assistance to infringe is not covered
    and also restricts the scope of offences to which criminality could apply.

    A second concern is one of definitions. Although I gather the Librarians',
    Consumers' and Innovators' Coalition amendments have done a fair job at
    establishing definitions, I do believe it far better to remove the
    definitions from the text completely. This to my mind is safer and allows
    judges to dismiss cases that might otherwise be caught by specific
    definitions. For this reason I supported Sharon's amendment which eliminates
    definitions.

    Unfortunately, in the vote in the European Parliament on Wednesday 25th
    April, a number of these amendments did not pass and subsequently the Group
    I lead voted against the directive. But, realistically I believe there is
    some way to go before we will know the final shape of this legislation as
    this is just the first reading but I hope this answer is reassuring that
    Liberal Democrats in the European Parliament take your concerns seriously.

    Please do not hesitate to get in touch should you require further
    information.

    Yours sincerely,

    Graham Watson MEP

    Member of the European Parliament for South West England and Gibraltar

    and Leader of the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe

  8. If by "stricter" it means "more relaxed" ... by vivaoporto · · Score: 3, Insightful
    First, a much better submission for this same news can be accessed on the Firehose. It is a mystery to me why that submission was not accepted instead of the one we are commenting on. I think it is because it is not sensationalist, biased against the E.U. and polarizing, limiting itself to present the fact with the minimum possible bias. I will post it here, so we can comment on it instead.

    European Parliament rules sharing isn't illegal

    "Yesterday, 25/04/2007, the European Parliament voted in favour of a proposal to modify the EU Parliament and Congress directive regarding penal measures destined to enforce Intellectual Property rights. the directive finally establishes in Article 3 that the member states will be responsible of considering as a criminal infraction all intentional IP offences committed at a commercial scale, as well as complicity and/or incitement to these offences. According to Amendment 13, Article 2 of the directive excludes culpability of the acts performed by private users for personal non-profit usage. Read the "

    There are some important parts there, that helps to clarify and protect private copying, while harmonizing the legislation among the members states to fight the real threat that this legislation aims: counterfeiting of real world trademarked and copyrighted goods. Here are some important parts of this amendments:

    • Amendment 1: "Certain criminal provisions need to be harmonised so that counterfeiting and piracy in the internal market can be combated effectively."
    • Ammendment 3: "The involvement of the holders of intellectual property rights concerned should constitute a supporting role that will not interfere with the neutrality of the state investigations.
    • Amendment 13: ""infringements on a commercial scale" means any infringement of an intellectual property right committed to obtain a commercial advantage; this would exclude acts carried out by private users for personal and not for profit purposes;
    • Amendment 16: "Member States shall ensure that the fair use of a protected work, including such use by reproduction in copies or audio or by any other means, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship or research, does not constitute a criminal offence."
    • Amendment 24: "Member States shall ensure that, through criminal, civil and procedural measures, the misuse of threats of criminal sanctions is prohibited and made subject to penalties. Member States shall prohibit procedural misuse, especially where criminal measures are employed for the enforcement of the requirements of civil law.
    • Amendment 25: "Member States shall ensure that the rights of defendants are duly protected and guaranteed.
    • Amendment 27: "The Member States shall put in place adequate safeguards to ensure that such assistance [by the IP holders] does not compromise the rights of the accused person, for example by affecting the accuracy, integrity or impartiality of evidence.

    Now, again, let's comment on that. How is that bad for fair use, private copying, etc? It is exactly THE OPPOSITE of what is being stated in the summary of this article, it defines explicitly fair use, right to private copying and creates a legal framework for the IP holders to be able to assert their rights, while protecting the citizens against baseless suits.

    And, as a side effect of that, it legalizes the legal parallel importing of goods, making the ones like Lik Sung (sic) to be able to operate on E.U. territory. See below:

    • Amendment 15: Criminal sanctions shall not be applied in cases of parallel importation of original goods which have been marketed with the agreement of the right-holder in a
  9. Sadly, it wouldn't make a difference by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The unfortunate reality is that with the typical electoral system in the west, each election is decided on the basis of a very small number of very high profile issues. Things like economics, "defence", healthcare, and crime are tried and tested. Trendy issues — currently it's anything environmental over here in the UK — can also register significantly. However, minor things that still affect many people every day are rarely even considered. This is how things like IP and road traffic laws can reach a point where a very significant proportion of the population are criminalised for doing something that a majority of the population does not believe to be ethically wrong.

    This will probably continue as long as we have this bizarre idea that politicians can predict before the election what will happen throughout their entire term of office. That simply isn't possible, unless their policies are never going to change depending on context. Consider the unpredictability of a world stock market crash or a plane flying into an iconic building, and unsurprisingly the reality doesn't always match up. It is silly to expect that it ever will, and we would do far better if political manifestos set out the principles and values supported by the each candidate, and reserved concrete policies for examples: "Under the current circumstances, I would therefore support this measure to provide further financial support to that group." We also need to get over this idea that any politician who changes his or her position on an issue is "doing a U-turn" and doesn't know what they stand for. Maybe the circumstances just changed? Maybe they came across better information, and revised their opinion in light of it? These are good things for politicians to do, as long as their actions are consistent with the principles and values for which they stood at election time. The idea that all politicians should have evaluated all information on all issues comprehensively before every decision they are asked to make is simply unrealistic, and I would rather vote for someone who acknowledged this and made a genuine effort to dot the right thing than someone who pretended they were omniscient and used this to attack their more considerate opposition.

    Of course, such a principled election system would also show up some other problems with "representative" democracy in places like the US and UK today. As far as I can see, the major political parties in these countries are so closely aligned on many issues that someone who is fairly central but tends towards individual responsibility and capitalism rather than socialism and a large government simply has no-one to vote for who will argue their case. Given the barriers to entry in starting a new political party, this means a significant proportion of the population's voice is never heard.

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