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The Solar Oxygen Crisis

Astrophysicist writes "The Astrophysical Journal this week published an article about the abundance of oxygen in the Sun. Oxygen is the third most abundant atom in the universe, behind hydrogen and helium. Most of the hydrogen and helium was formed in the Big Bang, which means that oxygen is the element most frequently produced by nuclear fusion reactions in the interior of the stars. The solar abundance of oxygen, which is key in astrophysics because of its use as a calibration reference for other objects, was thought to be well established since the 80s. However, recent evidence indicates that it has been overestimated by almost a factor of two. A revision of the solar oxygen abundance would have a cascading effect on other important elements, such as carbon, nitrogen and neon, whose abundance is only known relative to that of oxygen. In addition to the impact on the chemical composition of many stars, models of solar interior may require some reworking in order to be consistent with the new data."

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  1. Hard luck by casings · · Score: 4, Funny

    That amount of oxygen is just under the amount needed to create a stable atmosphere for human life on the sun.

    I guess there's always Mercury.

    1. Re:Hard luck by borizz · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd rather live on Mercury. The sun has other problems beside a lack of Oxygen. Shooting jets of superheated plasma come to mind.

    2. Re:Hard luck by aurb · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not to mention real estate prices...

    3. Re:Hard luck by Zonekeeper · · Score: 1, Funny

      Shooting jets of superheated plasma come to mind.


      Hey, you've seen my wife mad too?
    4. Re:Hard luck by misleb · · Score: 3, Funny

      Even with enough oxygen, you'd need to worry about global warming with all those greenhouse gases such as plasmafied helium...

      -matthew

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    5. Re:Hard luck by Himring · · Score: 2, Funny

      My impression of the first man to land on the sun....

      [Jumps around frantically] Ouch! ouch! ouch! ouch!

      Thank you folks. I'll be here all week. Please try the veal....

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    6. Re:Hard luck by sentientbeing · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm continually disappointed that we've never sent a manned mission to the Sun.
      Now, I know what you're thinking:
      'Duh. That's stupid. Its way too hot'

      Yes. But only if you go in the daytime

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    7. Re:Hard luck by AvitarX · · Score: 3, Funny

      10 - 20 percent efficient?

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    8. Re:Hard luck by mrbluze · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd rather live on Mercury. The sun has other problems beside a lack of Oxygen. Shooting jets of superheated plasma come to mind.

      Too much Mercury will drive you insane.

      And we already have shooting jets here - though I know people on the receiving end of those would rather live on Mercury.. but hasn't anyone woken up to the real implications here... if there's less O2 on the Sun.. does that mean we've grossly over-calculated the amount of oxygen on the Earth? Oh no!! I can't breeeeaaaaathe...

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  2. Goodness by cimmer · · Score: 4, Funny

    This takes my breath away!

  3. Re:Crisis? by SausageOfDoom · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because there's half as much oxygen as they thought! We're all going to die!

  4. I can finally feel good about myself! by All_One_Mind · · Score: 5, Funny

    and I thought my cascading errors were bad!

  5. Cue the /. Pseudo Scientists by WED+Fan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wait for it...3, 2, 1:

    We will now see a bunch of programmers and geeks try to display their scientific understandings and fail miserably. Usually because they read a chapter or 2 of Hawkings, or they know how to spell Fiene...Feinama...that really cool and funny fizicist...phyzi...fiscis...you know, someone who studies how the Universe works.

    I think we'd be better off sharing bio-diesel recipes and gossiping about our favorite TV series that are due for cancellation.

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    1. Re:Cue the /. Pseudo Scientists by PhxBlue · · Score: 5, Funny

      or they know how to spell Fiene...Feinama...that really cool and funny fizicist...phyzi...fiscis...you know, someone who studies how the Universe works.

      Fein, man, be a killjoy! :)

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    2. Re:Cue the /. Pseudo Scientists by bumptehjambox · · Score: 4, Funny
      :polishes glasses:

      The angle of the dangle is directionally proportionate to the heat of the meat and inversely proportionate to the sag of the bag. This is relevant, because the quintessential measure of man's cosmic purpose, and the understanding that comes of each discovery and revelation, is dwarfed by the new questions that then arise. In conclusion, one can conclude, that the effects on the world of physics are far-reaching but, in a closing statement, by nature, never insurmountable.

  6. Oh, is *that* all. by sycodon · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought it was gonna be something else Bush and Rove were at fault for.

    Headline:

    Sun has less Oxygen that thought, women and children hit hardest.

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  7. Solar warming by kitzilla · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yet more evidence that Solar Warming is really happening. Before you know it, the solar polar ice caps will melt, covering the entire surface of the sun to a depth of 23 feet and extinguishing its flames. Then we're completely screwed.

    I can see why the article calls this a "crisis." Scoff at your own peril.

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  8. When I read things like this ... by LaughingCoder · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am always reminded of the cartoon characters that run off a cliff, but they don't fall until they notice they aren't standing on anything. Maybe now that we notice this, the universe will implode or something. I hope not, at least until the end of the weekend - I hate it when my weekends get cut short.

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  9. Re:WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can we please reserve the term "crisis" for events where lives are at stake, and not when some astrophysicists are going to need to re-compute some scientific models? Agreed. While we're at it, can we remove the slogan "war on (whatever)" and save war for its dismal-enough denotation? So... you guys want a War on Crisis?
  10. In related news by ToxicBanjo · · Score: 2, Funny

    SOL Macrosystems released a statement today about a cascade error in it's Ox2 processing core... more at 11.

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  11. Re:Only a Abstract? by kestasjk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Less oxygen around than we thought.. What process rapidly consumes oxygen? Hydrogen&Oxygen fuel cells used in rockets. Who recently flew into space? Microsoft billionaire Simonyi. What is produced in the reaction? Water vapor. What does water vapor in the atmosphere do? Act as a greenhouse gas and cause global warming. What will be one of the effects of global warming? Many more third world refugees. Who benefits from there being more third world refugees? Providers of technology for the OLPC project. Which company recently became part of the project? Microsoft!


    .. So not worth it.

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  12. Re:Only a Abstract? by Jesus_666 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't worry, we'll just blame it on the USA. They didn't sign the Kyoto protocol and now look at the mess we've got.

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  13. Re:Crisis? by Guuge · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is clearly caused by heavy industry on Earth.

    Actually, the solar crisis is caused by light industry.

    But you know, why don't we just invade the sun? If we don't fight the photons there then we'll have to fight them here at home.

  14. The Christians are right!!!! by ghoul · · Score: 2, Funny

    What if we recalculate the age of the Sun based on these new figures and it shows the Sun got created 5000 years ago . Then it would mean the Christians were right all along and all the fossil evidence was just props put in by God to puzzle the puny humans. See it IS a crisis ;)

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