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Jobs Responds to Greenpeace FUD

EccentricAnomaly writes "Steve Jobs has posted a response on the Apple homepage to the Greenpeace Green My Apple campaign in which he basically makes a case for the Greenpeace campaign being a heaping pile of FUD. On one hand, you could say that Greenpeace shouldn't expect a company that has spent years battling Microsoft to just roll over. On the other, it looks like Apple is agreeing to do most of what Greenpeace has been demanding."

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  1. It's ok by bahwi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm a crazy neo-hippie vegetarian and even I don't listen to greenpeace(or were aware they were still around). Yeah, polluters are bad, but greenpeace doesn't help.

  2. They are a target because the iPod is popular. by 4iedBandit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And no other reason.

    I know it's a stretch for the average Slashdotter, and the comments already posted reinforce that notion, but RTFA.

    Apple has met or exceeded environmental standards in just about every respect. They've been doing it for years. Longer than most tech companies.

    So what are they really guilty of? What got Greenpeace's panties in a twist? Two things:

    First, Apple didn't publicize their work. They pulled a Nike and "Just did it" instead of talking about it. For this Greenpeace ranked Apple lower than other companies that just talk about doing it. Because Apple had the audacity to implement things without talking about it, they've been marked.

    Second, Apple has become amazingly successful thanks in no small part to the success of iPod/iTunes and Steve Jobs. I personally hate that they killed the Newton, but I love the price of my Apple stock. This makes Apple the "publicity target." If you want publicity, mention something really negative about Apple.

    Greenpeace is media whore mongering. Plain and simple.

    I for one am glad that Apple has responded, perhaps not directly to Greenpeace but in a round about way they bitch slapped them. Greenpeace deserves it. The organization should either do real work, or disappear. This attempt to keep themselves relevant is a joke. Greenpeace made no attempt to measure or show in any statistically sound way the real efforts by the companies they ranked.

    Lead by example. Apple's got a history of that.

    What's Greenpeace got? A bunch of nut cases who signed a petition against dihydrogen-monoxide?

    http://video.google.com/url?docid=-387819886586014 3812&esrc=sr1&ev=v&q=bull+shit+dihydrogen+monoxide &vidurl=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dyi3erdg VVTw&usg=AL29H22JoKRpAVSY4tPfXFwAGoCVaoW6Xw
    --
    "The avalanch has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote." -Kosh
  3. Re:Extinct by kebes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm against hyperbole as much as the next guy, but in this case things like The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement do actually exist. The idea is that humans should live rich, productive lives, but stop reproducing, because we're doing more harm than good by continuing this way (both to ourselves and the planet). The rationale is further that all the reasons for having kids are ultimately 'bad' or 'selfish' and thus it is our moral responsibility to overcome our natural tendency to have kids, and instead "do the right thing"--become extinct.

    Now, most people who subscribe to this "movement" are doing it as a joke, or because they are rationalizing the fact that they don't have kids. But some of them really seem to be arguing honestly for self-extinction of the human race.

    Anyways, just thought you'd be interested to know. I'm not trying to diminish your point against exaggeration.

  4. Re:Apples arent green because... by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Green peace doesn't care about people. They just use them as props because they know you care about people. They care about the environment.

    Take it for what it is worth, But I have never read anything from green peace talking about the health of humans unless it is prefaced with the environment and something to do with it.

  5. Re:Just what Greenpeace wanted? by Serious+Callers+Only · · Score: 3, Interesting

    David & Lucile Packard Foundation $450,000.00 2000 - 2000


    Wow 1/2 a million dollars in one year from the HP foundation.