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Synchronizing Music Players?

orn asks: "Lots of people now have MP3 players in the living room. Some people have players in the kitchen, bedroom, garage, and so on. They are great when it comes to getting to your music from multiple places, but when you walk from room to room, it's almost impossible to get the music aligned. Are there software packages or techniques for synchronizing multiple networked music players? One thought is to use streaming software to stream to all players — but is there any streamer that will let you account for the different delays in different hardware to create a single synchronized whole?"

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  1. SlimServer by jad4 · · Score: 4, Informative

    SlimServer works for me. http://slimdevices.com/su_downloads.html

  2. Simplify by pintpusher · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, I know this doesn't answer your question, and I'm all for technology, but why not just run a multi-output speaker control box. Then just pipe the same signal to all the rooms over plain old speaker wire. I'm sure you can get lovely remote control panels (or fab some up) to control the device too. Its just so much simpler, IMO.

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    1. Re:Simplify by i_should_be_working · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Indeed. And if one really wants to have other additional computers in control of the music, they can just use vnc or some similar app to control the music server.

    2. Re:Simplify by simcop2387 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      similar in line with this you can get a low power FM transmitter off ebay, and use that and some radios, much simpler if you don't want to run that much wire. my parents do it like this.

    3. Re:Simplify by blhack · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I came here to suggest the same thing. We have a setup very similar to this in our house. There is a room with a rack that has 4 Amps on it. Each one is individually controllable as far as volume goes (remotely). So that i can be in my bedroom with the music on VERY low, and the kids can be out in pool with the music on very LOUD. With this setup, you can also run different sources to different amps too. Its pretty slick. I'm still at work so i can't look at who makes the stuff. If this is something like what you want, i'll go look at who makes everything for you when i get there. :)

      BTW, everything is controlled either from little panels that look like light switches in each room, or from a wireless tablet.

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    4. Re:Simplify by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My favorite trick is that with the right adapter you can use the cable TV coax already throughout your house as digital coax. That will generally get digital audio piped from one source to any device in your house that accepts a surround sound input.

      Pre-existing cables and a couple of $70 Theater in a boxes (for the amps inside and the multiple speakers to scatter about the house) with that solution gave me whole house audio sourced from the one expensive tuner (Denon 3806) that runs my real theater, which of course was already tied into my PC/MP3 storage.

      It's nice to be able to play surround sound from your computer to anywhere in the house without having to run cables between floors or anything.

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    5. Re:Simplify by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you don't know who makes it (which means it wasn't a DIY project), and it has both a wireless tablet and on-the-wall controls, chances are it is Crestron and costs a boatload.

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    6. Re:Simplify by blhack · · Score: 2, Informative

      sorry about the double post, but this website shows pretty much all the stuff you would need to do a setup exactly like mine.

      Click

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  3. Easy solution by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Funny

    but when you walk from room to room, it's almost impossible to get the music aligned.

    That's what the volume knob is for. I assume you have an '11' setting on it? Problem solved. You can hear it in all rooms simultaneously.

    1. Re:Easy solution by orkysoft · · Score: 3, Funny

      Another easy solution:

      MP3 players are portable, are they not? Simply carry the one you're listening to with you, and the only delay you'll get is relativistic, which (1) is negligible at the velocities of typical slashdotters, and (2) nullified by carrying the player with you.

      I believe Apple makes a suitable device for this purpose.

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  4. Simple. by harrkev · · Score: 5, Funny

    Simple!

    First, figure out what your slowest player is. Then, delay the others to match. Note that a lot of cat-5 cable might be useful -- about a mile or two should do it.

    Use an osiclloscope to compare two different devices, and figure out how much delay you need. Figure that eight inches of wire is about a nanosecond delay. Note that you might have trouble driving a mile or two of cat-5, so you might have to throw in a switch or hub along the way -- which will introduce additional delay. Simply measure the delay and use less cable.

    See, simple!

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  5. AirPort Express by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Buy AirPort Expresses. iTunes will drive multiple units in perfect sync. If you don't like iTunes or need to play from some other source, the Mac version of Rogue Amoeba's Airfoil can also drive multiple units in sync using any application on your computer as the source.

  6. Don't think DIY is going to do it by Zadaz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Standard Network latency and timing is not precise enough to reliably sync audio between rooms in such a way that you won't hear an echo. At least that was what I found when I researched this a couple of years ago.

    Buy a Sonos and forget about it. It's an amazing set of hardware that's worth twice the price.

  7. Re:Perfect (and simple!) solution by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 2, Funny

    But...motion sensing is cool...and all...stop ruining my Star Trek dreams...keep them away, them and their normal ideas...I want my motion sensing radio with mood ring capabilities for music!

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  8. Centralized unit by ZipR · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have a system from these guys (http://www.russound.com/index.htm) in my house. Each room has its own set of built-in speakers, with a separate volume and source control too. I serve music via my computer (in the basement), and can skip from song to song in the living room (on the first floor) with an ATI remote wonder (works through walls.) I also have my main TV audio hooked into the system as well as the DVD/CD player. When the big game is on, I can turn it up in all the rooms.

  9. Who are these people? by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not to sound like Jerry Seinfeld, but who are these people? Who needs music piped into every room of their house available constantly? Who needs an ipod to get through the day at work?

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  10. Hate to point out the obvious but... by cybereal · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apple's iPod + iTunes + Airport Express covers all of your needs.

    One iTunes installation streaming to several AirPort Express base stations (connectable via wifi or ethernet) provides just what you need, including synchronized output. I was really surprised when I discovered the output was synchronized, despite being streamed as data and decoded at the express device itself.

    Furthermore, if you have several iPods it's trivial to synchronize them all with the same iTunes installation, in fact, it's kind of the entire point and reason behind the iPod's success isn't it?

    It's not like the iPod is that great of a player, and people can quit pretending the scroll wheel was a good idea because it's not (my sore thumb joint...) but the software to manage the things, that's the golden feature right there.

    I'm sorry to be the one that pimps Apple on this, but son... they've got you pegged.

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  11. Obvious by triso · · Score: 2, Funny

    Put a MP3 player in your pocket, with the tunes you want, put some headphones on and the music will follow you around, magically, without phase or synchronization problems.