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Retroactive Immunity Proposed for Telcos Who Share Private Data

quanticle writes "The government has proposed giving retroactive immunity to telephone companies for giving personal data to the government, even if such requests are later found to be illegal."

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  1. I welcome by EEPROMS · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I too welcome our new United Soviet States of America fascist overlords

  2. Retro-what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Retroactive Immunity Proposed for Telcos Who Share Private Data


    So it's legal for companies to share my data, but not for me to share theirs?

  3. Ah, no ... by the+bluebrain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... you see, this is impossible. Impossible, due to the separation of powers. It's obviously the executive branch of government that is requesting the data, and the legislative that would be able to grant immunity. And it anything goes wrong, the judicative can be called upon, by any involved party. Checks and balances, my friend, checks and balances.

    It's the magic of the system, as written down on a just piece of paper.

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  4. Not surprising by vivaoporto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With the election day coming, there is no doubt that a lot of retroactive immunities, pardons and whatnot will be signed just before Bush leaves. Were the Rep. sure that they would get the office again, they could do it furtively a la George Ford pardoning Nixon. But as the Dems, odds to win seems to be way higher, they must to act very fast and be sure to shred every piece of evidence. Just look at the whole house of cards falling, Gonzales, Wolfovitz, Rove, Libby, etc.

  5. Also a way to admit guilt by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because, well, what would this law be good for if the telcos didn't already hand over all kind of information illegally and in blatant violation of any privacy laws?

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  6. This isn't about the past...... by budword · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is about being able to get that data in the future too. The government knows that if they want the telcos to just hand over your info in the future, they have to make sure the telcos past actions don't cost them in court. Unfortunately for the rest of us, the only way to be sure it doesn't happen again is to make sure it costs those bastards a boat load of cash, which no longer seems likely. Some "get pounded in the ass" prison time would help too, for the CEO types who had to sign off on this bullshit, but that is even less likely. The US doesn't have much in common with the Constitution anymore.

  7. It's only fair and right! by erroneus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A lesson for us all! When you help the Gestapo, the Gestapo will help you.

    1. Re:It's only fair and right! by Mr.+Shotgun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That is true only if the Gestapo thinks it has further use for you.
      If not, they will not hesitate to leave you hanging in the wind.

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  8. Please don't... by msauve · · Score: 5, Insightful

    bring the United States of America into this.

    The US has a Constitution which says that "No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed."

    This is about a corrupt administration which feels it is above the law.

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    1. Re:Please don't... by ari_j · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How does this story relate to bills of attainder or ex post facto laws?

  9. Too Stupid? by neoform · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why exactly is it stupid for the government to not do much (in terms of change) ?

    Seems to me the whole political process SHOULD be slow in order to stop individual administrations from making massively sweeping reforms that undo centuries of hard work..

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