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Comcast CEO Shows Off Superfast Modem

Gary writes "Comcast CEO dazzled cable industry audience by showcasing a super quick modem, using a technology called DOCSIS 3.0. It was developed by the cable industry's research arm, Cable Television Laboratories. It bonds together four cable lines but is capable of allowing much more capacity enabling a data download speed of 150 megabits per second, or roughly 25 times faster than today's standard cable modems. 'The new cable technology is crucial because the industry is competing with a speedy new offering called FiOS, a TV and Internet service that Verizon Communications Inc. is selling over a new fiber-optic network. The top speed currently available through FiOS is 50 megabits per second, but the network already is capable of providing 100 mbps, and the fiber lines offer nearly unlimited potential.'"

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  1. Saturation by conufsed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Bonds together 4 cable lines? I though one of the big issues with cable was saturation from multiple users on the same bit of cable? Not sure here as adsl is by far more available around here

    1. Re:Saturation by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And maybe I'm not understanding, but I only have 1 cable line running into my house. So how does this help me? Does this require them to lay more lines? Because if it does, they may as well lay fibre-optics, which has much more potential for higher speeds.

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    2. Re:Saturation by zippthorne · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Shouldn't your son be the one to do the project? If you're going to do it for him, you might as well just smash open a clapper and put it back together again. (after carefully recording the components for the three-panel display.

      I think the problem with science fair projects (at least when I did one) was that way too much emphasis is placed on coming up with a new idea, so the students get the idea that they should actually be doing new science. I know I had a series of terrible "experiments" because I spent a lot of time trying to think of something new, settled for something stupidly hard for a middle-schooler, and ended up without any conclusive results at all.

      I'd have been better off going through my science book and looking for something that was already well researched (just not by me), interesting, and seemed like it could be tested with the resources of a 7th grader. I probably could've replicated one of the early measurements of the speed of light, or done some kind of oscillatory motion experiment, even some of Feynman's musings are within reach to a 12 year old: the smell sensitivity one comes to mind as particularly simple to execute in terms of apparatus.

      But I stayed away from all that because the contents of my textbook were "Facts, to be learned," and not "facts, to be observed."

      Anyway, good luck with your science fair project, stay away from biology though if you have to wait for anything to grow, you don't get an extra month if something goes wrong. Having something you can actually demonstrate, like your son's acoustic light switch, is probably a pretty good idea.

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  2. Re:Technical Mumbo Jumbo by dattaway · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Superfast means it has the ability to go much faster than the undocumented quota that will get a subscriber kicked off the net.

  3. Upload? by ArchdukeChocula · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >a data download speed of 150 megabits per second

    The article makes no mention of what kind of upstream speeds you'll get with this technology.

  4. More bandwidth, please... by rkhalloran · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With more and more households pulling down big files, with HDTV starting to take off and the jump in downloads *that* will cause, with more multi-PC homes (four in mine), of COURSE they're going to want more bandwidth.

    And until FTTH becomes more prevalent, cable is the best available option.

    1. Re:More bandwidth, please... by 644bd346996 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What I don't get is the "bonds together four cable lines" bit. Does that mean you need to lay 3 more wires alongside the current one, or can this be done with the same physical cable that we already have? If it requires burying more cables, then it would be foolish to not bury a fiber optic cable.

  5. Increased speed means... by njen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So you can use up your 'unknown' monthly data limit four times as fast now! I hope that ISP's realise that a faster modem will require a higher data cap.

  6. Re:Technical Mumbo Jumbo by ozbon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, RTFA or TFCA (the comment above) - 25x faster than a 6Mbps connection.

    If you can get a 20Mbps connection then - duh! - the 150Mbps connection is (roughly) 7.5x faster than what you're currently getting.

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  7. This is wonderful! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Now you can get your Comcast "excessive utilization" nastygram after 10 minutes of usage!

  8. Irrelevant for a number of non-technical reasons. by zerofoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Assume for a moment that a cable company will actually run four cable lines to your house in lieu of fiber. Most home users will have little need for that type of speed.

    I remember hearing the CEO of Time Warner ask this question in regards to fios: What can't you do with 30 Mbps that you can do with 100 Mbps? He was stating that you can easily do VOD, Voice, and Data over 30 Mbps connections and there was no reason for more speed.

    With that attitude, do you think these guys will actually deploy this technology?

    The only application I can see for these types of speeds is private connections. I would love to have a 100 Mbps connection between my sites, but the only way to get private connections between sites is leased lines and the last time I priced a private DS3 my boss got sticker shock.

    Eventually regular consumers will not care about extra speed. We may already be at that point - plenty of people like Verizon's cheap DSL (768k/128k) because it's cheap and faster than dialup. Once joe average stops caring about speed increases, the only way to sell this service will be to interconnect businesses via private circuits.....but that is a long way off.

    Cable companies and telcos like Verizon need to start thinking about faster uploads, static IP, and private connections to get businesses interested.

    -ted

  9. Re:Technical Mumbo Jumbo by timjdot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Then you actually get to the cable network and it drops to superslow. Seriously, the whole hype thing is overdone. Anyone who's tried to use cable 7x24 knows it drops toward 30 second latency on web pages on a regular basis. The cable networks are probably overloaded/under designed. What good is superfast when the actual throughput is supersucky!!!

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  10. Re:Funny definition of competition by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The connection technology just now being rolled out by ONE phone company in a handful of cities?

    Right. Before it was being rolled out, they weren't having to compete with it. Now it IS being rolled out, so they DO have to compete with it. Is this a little too complex, or something? People (including zoning boards in municipalities, property managers for large buildings, developers, etc) are going to be making lots of infrastructure decisions. Things that weren't, but now ARE available figure into that. If a cable company doesn't show any sign that they're even going to TRY to compete with a wildly faster technology that is now actually in use by actual consumers, what do you think would happen to them over time? That's not a "funny definition" of competition, it IS competition. Or... do you think that something's only a factor in competition if it magically appears on the market in exactly equal supply, with perfect adoption in exact porportion? If you're even slightly thinking that way, then Macs and Linux boxes can't be competition for Windows boxes, either. Which would surprise all of those Mac owners out there, for example. Sort of like my mom would be surprised that when she had her choice of a dish provider or two, two cable companies, and Verizon's FIOS, that competition wasn't a factor in all of those sales pitches at her front door.

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  11. DOCSIS 2.0 potential by norminator · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The DOCSIS 2.0 standard maxes at 43MB in the US and 57MB Europe (NTSC vs PAL channel allocations). DOCSIS 3.0 (spec was ratified in 2006) allows multiple channels to be bonded together for even higher bandwidths (hence the demo).
    I'm glad you posted the maximum capabilities of DOCSIS 2.0, because I didn't know what they were, and frankly, I'm now a little depressed. TFA got me all hopeful I'd have my 150Mbps connection sometime relatively soon, but now that I now that the current standard is already 7 times faster "than today's standard cable modems", what's the point of having a modem that goes 150 times that? If we're getting service that's a small fraction of the capability of the current standard, why brag about the new modem? Why not let us have service that actually uses our current hardware somewhere close to it's potential? Or even half of it's potential? Why do they have to start selling us new modems alre...

    oh, I see. They want us to buy new modems. OK, my questions are answered.