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Scientists Claim Major Leap in Engine Design

An anonymous reader writes "Purdue researchers say they have made a major advance in the design of the internal combustion engine, one that could seriously boost fuel efficiency and cut emissions. A key portion involves building intake and exhaust valves that are no longer driven by mechanisms connected to the pistons, a departure from the way car engines have worked since they were commercialized more than a century ago. 'The concept, known as variable valve actuation, would enable significant improvements in conventional gasoline and diesel engines used in cars and trucks and for applications such as generators, he said. The technique also enables the introduction of an advanced method called homogeneous charge compression ignition, or HCCI, which would allow the United States to drastically reduce its dependence on foreign oil and the production of harmful exhaust emissions. The homogeneous charge compression ignition technique would make it possible to improve the efficiency of gasoline engines by 15 percent to 20 percent, making them as efficient as diesel engines while nearly eliminating smog-generating nitrogen oxides, Shaver said.'"

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  1. Nah by damacus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All the benefits will be squandered on making bigger, heavier vehicles. At least, that's what's been happening with improvements in efficiency since the 80s. Sigh...

    1. Re:Nah by jo7hs2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your statement is ironic. Most of the people I see driving SUVs are smallish women.

    2. Re:Nah by drooling-dog · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Diminutive genitalia aside, we need to examine this whole idea that anybody even cares how big the car is that you're driving. Once we meet certain minimal standards of daily hygiene, behavior, and attire, there's very little we can achieve by buying stuff that really enhances what people think of us all that much (regardless of marketers' attempts to convince us otherwise).

      Every guy who buys a land barge drives it around feeling like the Big Man About Town, but to everyone else on the street he's either invisible or just a dickhead who doesn't give a rat's ass about the environmental cost of what he's doing. Seriously, do you ever see someone driving past in a new Hummer and say to yourself, "Wow, I really admire whoever's driving that beast. I'd like to be his friend!". If he was a slob or an idiot before, he's now a slob or an idiot with an SUV.

      Nobody cares. It took most of my life and a fair amount of wasted money to finally learn that.

    3. Re:Nah by EugeneK · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Every heard of the clitoris? It's the same organ, ontogenously. And it tends to be smaller than the average penis! I'd say you're the one lacking knowledge of female anatomy, buddy.

      (Damn I love wikipedia!)

    4. Re:Nah by srw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And they get me home safely after a blizzard when my roomate with his Festiva was stranded.

      6 people died near here in February.

      Don't tell me what kind of vehicle I don't need.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYs7AP8UPic
      http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/556944959vklPkJ
      http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNew s/20070110/storm_weather_070110/20070110?hub=Canad a (more were found dead later)

    5. Re:Nah by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, SUVs kinda suck for towing too, compared to regular pick-up trucks. You can't tow a gooseneck trailer with a SUV, for instance.

      SUVs are basically very mediocre at everything, because other vehicles best them in every category: fuel economy (any car), passenger capacity (vans and minivans), performance (most cars), handling (any other vehicle), towing (pick-up trucks), cargo carrying (trucks again), etc.

      Most SUV owners would be much better served by having two vehicles instead of trying to have one vehicle that does everything (poorly). Need to carry cargo or tow stuff sometimes? Get a used, cheap pick-up. Need to carry lots of people sometimes? Get a used, cheap minivan. Need 4WD because of bad weather? Get a Suburu.

    6. Re:Nah by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think his point is that there are better cars for dealing with weather, cargo transport, people transport, etc. SUVs don't address any of those problems in a particularly good way. Another problem is that people in SUVs tend to think they're safer in storms when pretty much any car has about the same stopping power on ice - none. Yet they drive in more of an unsafe manner because of it.

    7. Re:Nah by RubberDuckie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, I need to pull a trailer on occasion. That's not doable, safely, with a Prius. Please don't assume that everyone needs to compensate for something (or lack thereof).

  2. Re:What will they do with this efficiency, though? by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, the scientists think the companies will use this to boost mileage.

    Reminds me of a play we had to read in 1960s grammar school about nuclear war. Big scary Atom Bomb threatens everybody, but he is driven away by Atoms for Peace (the script called for a costume kind of like lady liberty, complete with torch, except white instead of green). You see Science was bringing us limitless power, and that was going to eliminate poverty. Since nobody was poor, nobody had a reason to fight.

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  3. Lipstick on a pig by tinrobot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No matter how efficient an internal combustion engine gets, it will still emit carbon dioxide. While this technology might help an engine spew less carbon dioxide, it's still a dead end -- kind of like putting lipstick on a pig.

    Put the effort into other forms of energy and we'll be a lot better off a lot more quickly.

    1. Re:Lipstick on a pig by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No matter how efficient an internal combustion engine gets, it will still emit carbon dioxide.

      No matter how much carbon dioxide an internal combustion engine emits, the fuel consumption will still be carbon-neutral if it's running on biofuels.

      Put the effort into other forms of energy and we'll be a lot better off a lot more quickly.

      We have a huge fueling infrastructure that is not simply going to go away overnight, and internal combustion engines will be here (on Earth) for a long, long time to come. Making them more efficient is probably a good idea.

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  4. Re:I RTFA yesterday when I saw it on the Firehose by TempeNerd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The also haven't built anything - just modeled it on a computer.
    They may not have solved any of the actual implementation issues, nothing in the article said they had.

    I don't wish to belittle their design ideas - but it is usually very difficult to go from a revolutionary engine design to an operational engine. A good example is the Stirling Engine, great design - difficult to realize.

    I wish them luck - but not going to hold my breath for this one.

  5. Re:So it's glorified Variable Valve Timing, then by jfengel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's pretty much standard stuff in science reporting these days:

    1. Scientist develops an improvement in an old but unused technology.

    2. Nobody had ever heard of the old technology, so they can't explain the new stuff until they explain the old stuff.

    3. The press writes about the old stuff, not realizing that it's not news.

    Plus bonus step 4: scientist, trying to ensure that grants continue, points out that eventually there's a major improvement to be made, which the press promptly presents as "imminent".

    You see this all the time on Slashdot, especially in conjunction with solar-cell stuff. There's news there, but it's not what the press is talking about, because the actual news is less interesting.

  6. Re:Killed in "development"? by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Insightful

    None. Why would GM or Ford kill anything that would give them an advantage over Honda or Toyota?
    Your Tinfoil hat is on too tight again.

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