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Electronic Frontier Foundation Sues Uri Geller

reversible physicist writes "The Electronic Frontier Foundation has sued spoon-bender Uri Geller for using 'baseless copyright claims' to silence critics who question his paranormal powers. Brian Sapient posted on YouTube a 14-minute excerpt from the 1993 PBS NOVA program 'Secrets of the Psychics,' in which skeptic James Randi says Geller's spoon-bending feats were simple tricks. YouTube took down the video after Geller complained — his lawyers claim that 10 seconds of the video are owned by Geller. A shorter excerpt of the video is still up on YouTube."

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  1. They're just jealous but by C4st13v4n14 · · Score: 5, Funny

    There is no spoon!

    1. Re:They're just jealous but by monk.e.boy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Uri Geller *always* has two spoons. Not hard to figure out his 'magic powers' when he only lets you examine one of them

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  2. He thought wrong! by abionnnn · · Score: 5, Funny

    He thought he could bend copyright laws too!

    1. Re:He thought wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unlike spoons, copyright laws are self-bending.

  3. More on this.... by BigBadBus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Theres a bit more on this on http://www.badpsychics.co.uk/ and its forums. Well worth a read IMHO!

    1. Re:More on this.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      And here is EFF press release and filings: (I'm disappointed these were not linked in summary.)
      http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2007_05.php#00524 4
      http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/sapient_v_geller/

    2. Re:More on this.... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It kind of bugs me that these "skeptics" like Randi will go after these two-bit hucksters, but not touch the real frauds selling organized religion to suckers.

      You think Uri Gellar little scam can touch the massive hocus pocus peddled by guys like the Pope or other so-called "religious leaders"? At least Gellar is somewhat entertaining and doesn't expect me to give him 10 percent of my income and the nicest few hours of a Sunday morning, and he doesn't promise I can wish away all the bad things in the world, despite all evidence to the contrary. And he doesn't try to make people feel guilty about sex.

      Religion is the last bastion of political correctness. Now we're all supposed to look the other way when a candidate for president wears magical underwear and not ask him how he can believe that stuff about the golden plates in the desert and all. No wonder we end up with guys like Bush.

      No, Uri Gellar, cheap flim-flam he may be, can't hold a candle to someone like this guy in Colorado, Ted Haggard, who's preaching "family values" and having prayer meetings with the President during the day and snorting crystal with male prostitutes in the evening.

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    3. Re:More on this.... by Ash+Vince · · Score: 5, Insightful

      One again the slashdot mods showing they are unable to handle a point of view which differs from their own.

      If you dont aggree with a post, try and be constructive and say why you disagree. Dont just mod the post as a troll because it offends your christian sensibilities.

      Personally I gree with the parent poster. At least you can safely laugh at Uri Gellar in the knowledge that all he can bend is spoons. There are much more worring people out there who can bend other peoples minds into doing their bidding.

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    4. Re:More on this.... by holysin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Uh... "Organized religions don't pretend to be able to demonstrate the paranormal, and so there's nothing concrete or repeatable for anyone like Randi to disprove."

      You're not catholic are you? Exorcisms, Transubstantiation (bread into flesh, wine into blood), resurection, heaven, hell, the rapture (wait, that's evangelicals), saints (need a miracle to be a saint remember, and what's the definition of a miracle?)

      Course if you're a Mormon, how about the magic underwear? Or john smith's magic hat?

      Quakers (and southern baptists, and a few others) still speak in tongues when the "holy spirit" takes them over. They've even been known to... well... quake with feeling for the lord.

      The devil? God? Creationism? The great flood? The concept of sin? Passover? Easter? Reincarnation? Any of these things ringing a bell?

      However, you are at least partially right, over the centuries cults (erm, religions) have gotten very good at claiming things that are hard to disprove. However you might want to check out Richard Dawkins' new book "The God Delusion". You're also right, people tend to be easily fooled into believing nonsense, look at how many devout christians of various faiths there are in the US. Hell, the president believes the the jury is still out on evolution. For that matter a CBS survey back in 04 found that 45% of the people who voted for Bush and 24% of the votes for Kerry wanted creationism taught in schools instead of evolution. That's a crap load of people that think evolution is BS. (There's also 3 republican presidental candidates (for now) that state they do NOT believe in evolution.

  4. Let me guess... by daranz · · Score: 5, Funny

    During these 10 seconds he placed the spoon in a clamp and started hammering at it vigorously?

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  5. Anything to Perpetuate the Fraud by NeverVotedBush · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OK, copyright law is one thing, but frauds like Uri Geller do whatever they can to keep anyone from showing their tricks. He's no more than the tent evangelist that has shills in the audience or people who listen to conversations so the perp can somehow know something personal about their next mark.

    Geller is only one step away from the televangelists that want you to lay hands on your TV and feel the power... and then send in your contribution.

    1. Re:Anything to Perpetuate the Fraud by arivanov · · Score: 5, Insightful
      One step away? He is just a different manifestation of the same problem.

      And so spoke Lazarus: It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics

      Psychic or Shaman same rule apply: Any priest or shaman must be presumed guilty until proved innocent.

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  6. The Amazing Randi by Marcion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am not a lawyer but 10 seconds for the purpose of criticism is surely fair use?

    1. Re:The Amazing Randi by Tuoqui · · Score: 5, Funny

      According to the article the biggest trick ever is silencing skeptics.

      Of course anyone can do that if they can buy themselves an elite ninja death squad.

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  7. Geller sues people who doubt his amazing ability by DrXym · · Score: 5, Funny
    So let me first to say that he is NOT a charlatan, a huckster, a cheap parlour act, a one trick pony, a snakeoil salesman, a vulture preying on the weak minded, a media whore, an insult to intelligence, a talentless liar or a boil on the face of humanity.

    No indeed. He is a great man whom aliens have seen fit to bestow the ultimate of powers - spoon bending. All hail our galactic overlords and their glorious Earth bound representative!

  8. Defamatory by kahei · · Score: 5, Funny

    Clearly Uri Geller has no "psychic" abilities whatsoever

    I'll thank you not to post baseless, unprovable defamatory statements about Mr. Geller. His 'Orange Dot' (see google) was almost certainly the single most amazing thing ever done in the sphere of psychic activity. Seriously, which is more likely:

    Proposition A: Uri Geller does have psychic abilities
    Proposition B: A high proportion of the human race, if you print an orange dot in a newspaper and tell them touching it will make their dreams come true, will take it *very seriously indeed*.

    I think you'll agree the latter proposition is simply ludicrous. Therefore it behooves anyone who'd consider themselves a free thinker to consider proposition A.

    Incidentally, I myself possess something of Mr. Geller's gift. While he is able to energize a large orange dot on high-quality newsprint, I can only perform the lesser feat of energizing a small black dot on the flimsy medium of a cathode ray tube or TFT. I have focused my spirit energy on this dot and it is now fully energized. Empty your mind, gaze on the dot and let the spirit energy fill you and uplift you.

    Here is the Dot: .

    Reach out. Touch it. Imagine you are floating on a bed of marshmallows(*). Who knows? Your dreams might just come true!

    (*)Genuine quote from Uri Geller, used here as "fair use" as I know Mr. Geller would never stoop to abusing copyright law.

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    1. Re:Defamatory by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 5, Funny

      Damn... Fingerprint on my LCD screen.

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  9. Uri Geller's Show in Israel by zukinux · · Score: 5, Informative

    He had a T.V Reality show here in the last season, and some of his tricks had been revealed including magnets he had pulled off his head and got caught. He's nothing more than magician.
    Uri Geller is a joke on youtube
    it should give you a proof or so just search there : Uri Geller.

  10. ... still more ... by thermopile · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Still more can be found here, on Damn Interesting, which provides an entertaining read on the things he claims to have done, and the efforts to debunk them. From what I've read, they haven't ALL been debunked.

    His spoon covered cadillac, however, is laughable.

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  11. Not just Randi.... by iknownuttin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Penn and Teller did a show once where they showed the spoon bending trick, and other tricks that Geller does without mentioning his name. They just said "phonies" use those tricks to show that they're "psychic". They even said that they won't mention his name because he sues everyone. It was plainly obvious that they were targeting Geller since at the time of the show, Geller was suing some mathematician - can't remember his name now..

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