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Will Dell Be Bad For Ubuntu?

Posted by kdawson on from the flip-side dept.

vcore writes "Many people are excited for Ubuntu's upcoming release on Dell computers, and while it is certainly good news there are a few causes for concern. Very few details have emerged so far so it is not completely clear what impact Dell with have on the thriving Ubuntu community. But there are questions concerning support, logistics, pricing, and a number of other areas that are affected. From the article: 'Dell is in the practice of filling their computers with large amounts of "bloatware" and also all sorts of co-branding, but it remains to be seen what they will do with Ubuntu. It has been reported that Dell will be shipping a standard version of Ubuntu 7.04...'"

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  1. the lord hath spoken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Hate/Intolerance speaker Jerry Fallwell was found unconscious in his office at "Liberty University" and was pronounced dead shortly after. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.

    1. Re:the lord hath spoken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Geez $RANDOMLUSER, the guy just died. Why not show a little respect? Even if he was a hellbound smug son of a bitch, it is still too soon to start throwing around insults like that.

    2. Re:the lord hath spoken by leadsling · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Why don't you do a little research into the life of someone you so summarily dismiss? What have YOU done for the homeless or addicted? Just because the liberal news media throws someone out there for derision and ridicule does not mean that they haven't done anything worthwhile.

    3. Re:the lord hath spoken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Does having done something worthwhile counter all of the negative things he's done? I don't think so.

    4. Re:the lord hath spoken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Very true. There are a lot of gay and transgendered people who are probably homeless at least in part thanks to Falwell's hate speech.

    5. Re:the lord hath spoken by alienmole · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Jerry Falwell chose to attack people, such as gays and lesbians, who had done nothing to him, and whose sin in his eyes was their very existence. Those attacks were unprovoked, un-Christian acts of aggression, which had a very real impact on people's lives. Someone who claims to be a Christian who indulges in such attacks is a hypocrite at best.

      You may disagree with my assessment of these facts, in which case you're perfectly free to accord Falwell as much respect as you want. I, however, believe that the world is a better place without such people.

    6. Re:the lord hath spoken by leadsling · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      It's pretty amazing that a little woman in India can win the Nobel Peace Prize for working with the homeless and destitute, but a white American male is vilified while doing the same thing. There was absolutely no hate in anything Jerry Falwell had to say. He didn't agree with the homosexual lifestyle. but I am pretty sure that he cared for these individuals as lost sheep just as he did anyone who he felt were not walking according to Scripture. As I'm writing this, I just thought of a strip of Shortpacked I read the other day.http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20070502.html that talks about opinions. Just because you think it's right doesn't mean it is.

    7. Re:the lord hath spoken by hahiss · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      "He didn't agree with the homosexual lifestyle. but I am pretty sure that he cared for these individuals as lost sheep just as he did anyone who he felt were not walking according to Scripture"

      This is, by itself, arrogant and condescending enough to warrant thinking Falwell was an asshole and the world is a better place for his passing.

      P.S. I really care for you as a lost sheep who is irrational enough to believe in the truth of the Scripture.

      --
      "Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." - H.L. Mencken
    8. Re:the lord hath spoken by leadsling · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      It's funny you choose to point out one very small thing of Jerry Falwell's life to hit on. And no, he did NOT believe that their "sin" was their very existence. Did he believe that homosexuality was a sin? Yes. Did he believe that homosexuality was a worse sin than adultery or greed or gluttony or slander or libel or gossip or murder or stealing or any of a plethora of things that are against the Scriptures? NO!!! Jerry Falwell believed that if you were about to fall into a ditch and he didn't say anything to warn you, HE would be culpable of your injuries. But he didn't just stand aside and yell out to those he believed were falling into a ditch. He reached out and tried to help them. If Jerry Falwell "attacked" groups, then give some quotes and solid examples. But if he just reached out to those whom he thought were deceived and needed help, recognize that for what it is and don't vilify him with quotes as I am seeing like he's "sucking satan's cock". It kind of proves my point.

    9. Re:the lord hath spoken by leadsling · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      This is, by itself, arrogant and condescending enough to warrant thinking Falwell was an asshole and the world is a better place for his passing.

      At least Jerry Falwell didn't fund suicide bombers to go and blow up innocent people who disagreed with his beliefs. Dr. Falwell may have been a conservative with regards to politics, and he may have been expressive in his views, but I can guarantee that he didn't turn around and curse people and mock them and say that the world would have been better off without them just because he didn't agree with them.

    10. Re:the lord hath spoken by hahiss · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      "At least Jerry Falwell didn't fund suicide bombers to go and blow up innocent people who disagreed with his beliefs. "

      Well, *THAT* sure is a high standard. . . .

      --
      "Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." - H.L. Mencken
    11. Re:the lord hath spoken by hahiss · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Actually, unlike Falwell, I'm not an anti-semite, I was never pro-apartheid, and, while I adore the use of profanity to celebrate the passing of immoral bigots like Falwell, I've *never* said things like:

        "I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'" (This was in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11/01 attacks, in which he blames these people for the attacks.)

      "AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals."

      "God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew."

      Nice hero you've got there.

      --
      "Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." - H.L. Mencken
    12. Re:the lord hath spoken by alienmole · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I picked one example; there are others. He had problems with feminists, for example, and with the people who fought for the civil liberties of the people whose religious and moral views he disagreed with. Civil liberties which he himself, as a white male, enjoyed but was unwilling to grant to other humans. I am not picking on "one very small thing" but rather on a major problem with the man's character and moral fabric. He was not merely saying things to "warn" people, he was attempting to change the politics of the country in favor of his fundamentalist religious views, to the detriment of people with other views.

      I personally don't choose to respond to his death with comments like the one about Satan, but I think that if you believe those comments somehow cross a line that Falwell himself didn't cross many times, you're wrong. There's more to obscenity than simply dirty words.

    13. Re:the lord hath spoken by alienmole · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I can guarantee that he didn't turn around and curse people and mock them and say that the world would have been better off without them just because he didn't agree with them.
      But he came pretty close to doing just that! He said that the terrorist attacks on September 11th were a consequence of God having abandoned the United States because of gays, lesbians, feminists, and the ACLU. Rather than saying the world would be better off without them, he said that the world was now without 3,000 innocent fellow humans because of them. Talk about hate speech.
  2. first fallwell post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If there's a hell, he's in it!

  3. Re:A tale from Bulgaria. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Surely if he was Bulgarian and wanted money all he'd have to do is sell his sister to a brothel?

  4. Re:Wrong moron he is in heaven by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    he's sucking satan's throbbing cock right now

  5. my aren't you a hateful person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I always find it funny how small minded and hateful the Falwell bashers are. Lucky for you secularists he is a forgining man and is praying for your rotten hateful souls.

    1. Re:my aren't you a hateful person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Why yes, I am. I hate Jerry Falwell and what he's done to this country. Wake up, open your eyes and look around. He was the fountain from which all of this divisiveness and intolerance and authoritarianism sprang from. He is almost personally responsible for ruining this country.

    2. Re:my aren't you a hateful person by alienmole · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      he is a forgining man
      I'm glad you didn't write "forgiving", because that would have been truly insulting. The whole problem with Falwell was that he was by no means a forgiving person - he wished to impose his own hateful sense of "morals" on others who didn't share them. A true Christian is more tolerant of the beliefs of others.
    3. Re:my aren't you a hateful person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Ha Ha Ha! Before Jerry Falwell, people in the U.S. had intelligent debate where, even if they never came to a meeting of the minds, they always respected each other, right? Hamilton and Burr are known for how level-headed and reasonable they remained up until they both grew old and remember all the polite debates they had. HILARIOUS! Be a student of history, not a moron.