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Not All the DOJ Missing Emails Are Missing

Hylas sends us to Democracy Now for a newscast on the missing emails, an interview with investigative journalist Greg Palast. Here's Palast talking about the fired US attorney from New Mexico, David Iglesias: "Iglesias believes the real reasons for the firings are in what are called the missing emails, emails sent by the [White House political advisor Karl] Rove team using Republican Party campaign computers, which Rove claims can't be retrieved. But not all the missing emails are missing. We have 500 of them. Apparently the Rove team misaddressed their emails, and late one night they all ended up in our inboxes in our offices in New York City." This story has had zero play in the US media; it's been being carried on the BBC.

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  1. Greg Palast's history by 0123456789 · · Score: 5, Informative

    A bit of history on Greg Palast; he's the guy who, on the BBC, broke the story about election irregularities in Florida before the 2000 election. Admittedly, a few days before, but it's still a bit of a scoop.

  2. Re:I must be new here... by Eukariote · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is nothing weird about it if you know who owns the media and how they operate. Disney, Viacom, Timewarner, News Corp, Bertelsmann and GE own more than 90% of US media outlets. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_of_medi a_ownership for details. To get an inside view of how the media handle stories that are unwelcome to the establishment, I can recommend the following book: http://www.amazon.com/Into-Buzzsaw-Leading-Journal ists-Expose/dp/1591022304

  3. Greg Palast's history is even better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is much better than this!
    He investigated the contract Jeb Bush gave to a company to filter out from the voter rolls the people who had no right to vote. He got their listings printed, and found out that they had prevented tens of thousands of african-americans from voting for no legal reason! As everyone knows african-americans almost always (95%) vote for the democrats. That is how the 2000 election really was stolen, and all US corporate media boycotted what he found, which only aired on the BBC.
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=greg+p alast+2000&search=Search
    For more great videos by Palast about the 2004 election and more:
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=greg+p alast&search=Search
    Also do a serch on emule for other exclusive materials.

    1. Re:Greg Palast's history is even better by gilroy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Even though people have been tongue-in-cheek, I've seen a useful distinction here: Democrats who commit fraud tend to prefer voter fraud -- people voting twice, the dead voting, etc. Republicans who commit fraud tend to prefer election fraud -- gaming the system, disenfranchising voters, making "mistakes" that can't be corrected before the election, etc.

    2. Re:Greg Palast's history is even better by wagadog · · Score: 5, Informative

      Greg Palast lives in New York. He's a US Citizen. He only publishes in the UK newspapers because US newspapers (and other media outlets) won't publish his investigative journalism. Which is why its so great when his books (eg ARMED MADHOUSE) sell well enough to make the New York Times Bestsellers list. Because then the NYT *HAS* to mention his name. Delicious.

    3. Re:Greg Palast's history is even better by jc42 · · Score: 4, Informative

      [T]he Republican party in the 2004 elections here in SC actually sent out operatives to polling places at all the state's black colleges (Benedict, SC State, etc.) to keep students from voting (because, technically, they could only vote in their parents districts, since college doesn't count as "residency").

      In 1979, the Supreme Court declared that students could vote in either their "home" (i.e., parents') district or the school district, whichever they declared as their "residence".

      This decision had significant effect in a lot of college towns, where the town governments changed from conservative, anti-student to much more representative of the population in the 1980 elections. I remember this pretty well, because I was a student in Madison, Wisconsin at the time. Before this, the city had a government run by student-baiting right-wing conservatives. They were replaced by a "left-wing, hippy, communist" gang that really improved things in general, and who got re-elected overwhelmingly in subsequent elections because of the good job they did (while assiduously baiting the right-wingers at every opportunity ;-).

      Of course, politicos still try to persuade students that they have to vote "at home", but this has no basis in law. It's purely an attempt to discourage students from voting where they live most of the year.

      You can find a good number of descriptions of this Supreme Court decision by googling for the obvious keywords.

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  4. Re:I must be new here... by smooth+wombat · · Score: 5, Informative
    To summarize, the firings weren't illegal,


    Nice troll. Too bad it's not correct.

    You are correct when you say the US Attorneys serve at the will of the President. Bill Clinton, when he came into office, fired all 83 US Attorneys and replaced them. So did Reagan and Bush, Sr.

    Bush, however, not only did not do that, he waited until two years into his second term to fire eight attorneys which he had previously appointed!

    Further, as is now becoming clear, the firings were not for performance reasons, but political reasons. In one case, the attorney was told he was being fired to make way for a former aide to Karl Rove. In another case, Iglesias, he was specificaly told his firing was not for performance reasons but political yet the White House and Gonzales kept saying, and still say to this day, that the firing was for performance issues.

    As Iglesias said on Fox Noise, and as the transcript above shows, he asked for and was given permission to use the DOJ as a reference. If he was fired for performance reasons, why bother to give him a recommendation?

    So what we have is an Attorney General who has been lying under oath about an incident which he apparently knew nothing about even though he heads the department. Let's see, lying under oath, can't recall information, doesn't know what's going on. Why does that sound familiar?

    Keep up the trolling. We need the laughs.

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  5. Re:I'm a little skeptical by TequilaMonster · · Score: 4, Informative
    One clue coming up...

    FTFA

    I mean, he's not necessarily the sharpest knife in the drawer, and he and his guys were mistyping their email addresses, sent them to georgewbush.org, instead of dotcom, which is an email domain owned by friends of ours, who shot them right to us.
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  6. Re:I must be new here... by SnapShot · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is an issue because the subtext of all the stories is this: if you are a Democrat up for election you WILL be investigated, if you are a Republican you WILL NOT be investigated, if you are a Democrat at the DoJ you will be fired, if you are a Republican you will be promoted. Do you understand? The Department of Justice is a supposed to be a non-political department because no citizen who cares about this country wants a Soviet style DoJ where criminal investigations are based on political affiliation.

    If you don't care about this now, you better not be bitching when a Democrat is President and the tides turn...

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  7. Another non-story about presidential lawbreaking by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 5, Informative

    U.S. Attorneys are usually all replaced at the beginning of an administration. They are not supposed to be replaced in the middle of a term in order to obstruct justice.

    While they are political appointees they do not occupy political positions. Supreme Court judges are political appointees too. They can't simply be yanked off the court by the president if he or one of his friends loses a court decision.

    To get on the Supreme Court, a nominee has to be approved by Congress. Ordinarily that applies to U.S. Attorney nominees as well. (Even though they serve "at the pleasure of the president".) Specter's little Patriot Act amendment put an end to that. So now the president can simply fire a prosecutor if he or one of his friends get prosecuted, replace him with whomever he likes, and nobody can say a thing.

    Now we have people in the president's own party demanding that his prosecutors bring bogus charges against their political opponents, rushed in time for elections. (Historically prosecutors have usually waited until after elections to avoid tainting them.) We have people in the president's own party having the prosecutors investigating them fired. We have prosecutors being replaced by guys who compile lists of registered voters in minority districts for mass voter challenges. We have prosecutors being replaced for investigating real crimes instead of wasting their time harassing voters with imaginary "voter fraud" cases. We have a Department of Justice that launches more than six corruption investigations of local Democratic politicians for every single investigation of a Republican. If you think this is a "non-story" you're out of your mind.

  8. Nice try. by hotsauce · · Score: 4, Informative

    Then they read the USCCR report on the Florida 2000 election which failed to find a single voter (Black or White) who was incorrectly prevented from voting because of their inclusion on the felon list. ...county election officials scrapped the lists altogether because of a high number of "false positives".

    You can't have it both ways. So which is it?

    I'll tell you. You're pulling a "Choicepoint" by omitting things from the story. Yes, Ethel Baxter (D) created the felon list (and since you claim felons vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, she must have been thinking about her sworn election office duty instead of her party), but a very important change was made by the Republicans: the decision to allow false positives. Under Baxter's rules, doubt over the status of a voter removed them from the list. With the new Republican guidance, you could now stack the list. (Wikipedia has more.)

    This isn't a partisan issue: either you're for fair elections, or you're not. We should attack every instance of fraud, regardless of who is skewing the system.

    And when you're "debunking" the BBC of all sources, you should provide some of your own of similar stature.

  9. We may as well talk actual numbers. by hey! · · Score: 4, Informative

    Under Clinton, the top marginal tax bracket went from 31% @ $86,500, to 39.6 @ $288,350. Bush subsequently adjusted the top rate to 35% @ 311,950.

    By comparison the top tax brack for most of the years of the "Reagan Boom" was 50% at around $170K or so, dropping to 28% at $32K under Bush.

    These figures are not adjusted for inflation by the way.

    The MEDIAN household taxation rates during
    the Reagan budgets (1982-1989): 17.9,17.5,18.0,18.1,18.0,17.6,17.9,17.9
    Bush HW (1990 - 1994): 17.9, 17.6, 17.4, 17.3,17.3
    Clinton (1994-2001): 17.3, 17.3, 17.3, 17.4, 16.8, 16.9 16.6,15.3
    Bush (2002-2003): 14.8, 13.8, 13.9

    Note that each president's first year in office is under the prior president's budget.

    Overall taxation rates dropped slightly during the Clinton years while the median taxation rate went down consistently and the top quintile rose significantly. Under the Bush administratio, there has been a substantial drop in effective taxation at the median income, but curiously only a slight drop is seen in the top quintile. The big tax breaks go to a tiny, tiny sliver of the top quintile.

    This basically paints Clinton as overall a slight tax cutter who shifted the burden to the top quintile. Bush is a dramatic tax cutter who cut median and ultra-high income tax rates.

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  10. DOJ investigates 9 Democrats per 2 Republicans by Tungbo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your point would be well taken except that the DOJ is run by Bush Appointees.

    Consider this from a Paul Krugman column dated, 3/9/2007:

    "Donald Shields and John Cragan, two professors of communication, have compiled a database of investigations and/or indictments of candidates and elected officials by U.S. attorneys since the Bush administration came to power. Of the 375 cases they identified, 10 involved independents, 67 involved Republicans, and 298 involved Democrats. The main source of this partisan tilt was a huge disparity in investigations of local politicians, in which Democrats were seven times as likely as Republicans to face Justice Department scrutiny."

    Then consider that with such intense scrutiny by Attoney Generals who "played ball" and didn't get fired, there was found only a handful of 'vote fraud' cases.