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US Gasoline Prices Spur Telework

coondoggie writes "The price of gasoline may finally be changing the way many people commute and communicate. Anecdotal evidence says teleworkers are growing rapidly as a direct result of the cost of driving. The article links a survey indicating that in Q1 2007 the 19 largest US cable and telephone providers (representing about 94% of the market) acquired over 2.9 million net additional high-speed Internet subscribers, to a total of about 56.2 million. That can be attributed in part to more employees taking advantage of telework programs, experts say. Just this week the House Judiciary Committee's antitrust task force opened the first of a series of hearings on the oil industry. Its chairman noted that gasoline prices have soared well above $3 a gallon and asked, 'How did we get into this mess?'"

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  1. How? by dj245 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Urban sprawl, SUV's, and lack of MPG targets for manufacturers. Average MPG hasn't changed much since the 70's. I also haven't noticed any change in peoples driving habits. People still tailgate, race to the next light (even though it is red) etc. I guess they have money to burn.

    There is no good fix for the sprawl. The other two are at least somewhat addressable by some means of legislation or industry curtailing.

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    1. Re:How? by thule · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't forget there has not been any refineries built in 30 years, even though there has been more types of gas that the states have required. Don't forget that not only has our demand for oil continued to grow, but the world demand has also continued to grow.

    2. Re:How? by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Insightful

      lack of MPG targets for manufacturers
      The other two are at least somewhat addressable by some means of legislation or industry curtailing.

      A more sane way of solving the problem is to have the consumer pay the true cost of energy. Does the gasoline you buy require us to import from unstable governments, resulting in a higher defense bill when we are in more conflicts over it? Put a tax on gas to foot the bill. Does gasoline hurt the environment? Put a tax on it to cover the cost.

      Worried about tax payer backlash? Give out a refund check to cover the average cost. Those who buy the fuel efficient car or choose not to live an hour from work will make a killing. Those who don't will get killed. I bet you'd see habits change REAL quick.

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    3. Re:How? by j79zlr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Obviously it is less expensive to refine it here. Market dictates. Thats the whole point. The environmental restrictions in place make it impossible to build a new refinery, but that doesn't help the environment. The fact that 30+ year old refineries are allowed to continue production under inefficient and environmentally unfriendly practices which cost us instead of building newer, more efficient refineries, that produce less harmful contaminants and more gasoline because they aren't grandfathered in, is ridiculous.

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    4. Re:How? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What's happening to the tax money we're already paying? It's not connected to the amount of petrol you consume. There is no incentive to cut usage if you are paying a flat rate. Worse, a lot of the cost of using petrol isn't even being paid at the moment, it's being deferred. Which would be more likely to make you consume less petrol:
      1. Having it cost twice as much at the pump, or
      2. Having the cost of the increase added to your other taxes?
      If petrol cost the same in the USA as it does in much of the rest of the world (well over $5/gallon), then you would almost certainly see a drop in demand.
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  2. We were warned. by oddaddresstrap · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How did we get into this mess?
    We were given a whack in the head about thirty years ago. We got up, dusted ourselves off and carried on as if nothing had happened.

  3. Gas Price in Europe is $10 Per Gallon by reporter · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Gas prices in the USA are not particularly high -- even at $3.50 per gallon. Gas in Europe costs $10 per gallon.

    Such high prices in Europe does not hurt the European standard of living because many Europeans use public transportation; bus and trains are relatively cheap to ride. In the USA, many Americans refuse to use public transportation due to class snobbery. In my neck of the woods, about 80% of the passengers on the bus is either impoverished Americans (from ghetto neighborhoods) or illegal aliens from Mexico. The occupancy of the buses is about 50% during most of the day. Meanwhile, the freeways are packed with late-model cars driven by the wealthier class.

    Frankly, even if gas prices increased to $10 per gallon in the USA, Americans would not necessarily experience a decline in their standard of living -- if they use public transportation. It is cheap although it may be slighly inconvenient because you must time your life according to the bus or train schedule.

    Note that American politicians never compare European gas prices to American gas prices. The politicians just tell Americans what they want to hear: "Gas at $3.50 is too expensive. We Americans are a sad, pathetic victim of the greedy oil companies. We should force them to lower gas prices back to $1.50 per gallon so we can enjoy your monster SUV."

    These are the same Americans who overwhelmingly supported the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

    1. Re:Gas Price in Europe is $10 Per Gallon by notamisfit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You know, I don't think we've seen so much as a drop of oil out of Iraq. From what I've heard, China and Vietnam are the ones getting the contracts. Not that I really care; most of the Middle Eastern oilfields were illegally nationalized from US or British companies anyways. (If it wasn't for the West, they'd still be driving camels on top of the world's richest oil deposits.) That's the _really_ scary thing about Iraq; Bush honestly seems to believe that letting Iraq vote itself into another Islamic Republic is going to be the thing that brings peace and stability to the region.

      As for public transportation, it's feasible -- in the metropolitan areas. Out here in farm country, it's a lost cause (and the lower property taxes and intangibles like better schools probably make up for the extra money spent on fuel).

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    2. Re:Gas Price in Europe is $10 Per Gallon by epee1221 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In the USA, many Americans refuse to use public transportation due to class snobbery.
      Did you ever see the public transport system in the US. I have. I can understand why people refuse to use it.
      Exactly. I don't avoid public transportation here because of snobbery. I avoid it because it is of low quality. With my car, I can roll out of bed at 8 and be at work before 8:30 minutes. If I had to take the bus, I would have to get up around 6:30, walk a mile and a half, get on one bus, ride to the middle of town, change buses (and hope everything's on schedule), ride out to work, and get there around 9. I would also likely have to get off work early in order to be able to take the bus back to where I got on (a mile and a half from home).
      On top of all that, once I already have a car, it's cheaper to use it drive myself to work than to pay for the bus fare. (It's about $3 for a day's driving, $4 for a day's busing -- $6 for the bus if I pay for each ride individually)
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  4. Positive change by Simon80 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll support these outrageous gas prices if they're finally high enough to make people rethink their horribly inefficient daily commutes. I find it wrong that there is such a huge flow of cars going back and forth every single day.

  5. Re:How much do you all really spend on gas? by frogstar_robot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It isn't just what we personally spend on gasoline. I've noticed prices on fresh produce and other things in the grocery store are up too. High fuel prices affect the price of everything. Almost everything in the store came by ship, truck, or train. That takes fuel and higher fuel costs are passed on to consumers. High fuel prices are costing you more than a 0.15% household budget increase. Some families have to do more driving than you do so the direct costs for others is higher as well. That means many people stay home more and spend less when they are out. That will ripple through the economy as well.

    This is a much larger issue than your monthly gasoline bill.

  6. Re:Distance to drive USA vs Europe by drsquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Americans drive further, why do they choose less efficient cars? You'd think that if you're driving 100 miles to buy a newspaper you'd get the most efficient car possible.