Intel Launches New Chipset

mikemuch writes "The new P35 and G33 chipsets, codenamed 'Bear Lake' are now available. They have a new memory controller that supports DDR3 RAM at up to 1333MHz, a new southbridge, and will support the upcoming 45nm Penryn CPUs. They don't yet have an actually new and different GPU — their GMA 3100 is pretty much the same as the GMA 3000 of the G965 chipset." For a little more technical info you can also check out the Hot Hardware writeup.

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What's Different

[Nom du Keyboard]

will support the upcoming 45nm Penryn CPUs.

What does Penryn need that's new and different in the way of support? Is it just a bump in FSB speed?

Re:When Do We Get Onchip DSPs?

[Doc Ruby]

Intel putting parallel DSPs on their uPs is not driven by mere "efficiency". Intel demonstrates, even defines, both the CS and economics that are forcing competitors, thereby Intel, too, to put DSP in their cores (literally and figuratively).

And there's not much sense in Web apps being processed by an FIR or full-spectrum mixer.

All I really get from your comment is that you don't know what DSPs do, or what Intel does - or maybe how Web apps work.

Re:Re-state the question.

[darkwhite]

Why can't Intel guarantee the same kind of stability ?!?!? You've got to be fucking shitting me. What are you high on? Because I'd like some of that. I can't see a single statement in your post that isn't absurd and that doesn't turn the truth on its head.

There are plenty of reasons to favor AMD over Intel, but sockets are not one of them.

Have you checked the longevity of LGA775, the only desktop and entry-level server socket that matters? And have you compared that to the longevity of AMD's sockets? Have you read the fucking article? Have you looked at Intel's CPU or chipset roadmaps? Do you know how long Intel plans to support LGA775?

AMD may have had its reasons to switch sockets, but it has managed to royally piss off its customers with the way it abandoned s939 and s940 after stating for a long time that it would not do so. AMD motherboard suppliers also had the same compatibility blues when Athlon X2s were coming out. Compare to Intel, which managed a smooth transition to a radically new CPU architecture without socket changes and with many chipsets not even batting an eye, and is now doing the same thing with the DDR3 migration.

I have no time to go through your absurdities one-by-one, so I guess I'll just assume you're one of those terminally brain-damaged fanboys who inhabit hardware forums and spout things that have no connection to reality.

Re:When Do We Get Onchip DSPs?

[Doc Ruby]

In our universe, everything can be characterized as a signal. In our society, practically all signals can be usefully digitized. That doesn't mean DSPs are right for everything, because DSPs aren't good at all signal processing, just some - repeated loops of simple, if cumbersome, linear equations.

DSP is fast math at the expense of fast logic. Web apps have at least as much logic as math, intractably intertwined. DSP of Web apps is inappropriate. DSPs on a chip with fast logic would be good for Web apps and everything else. Intel sells lots of CPUs to process Web apps. And IBM/Toshiba/Sony is planning to sell lots of Cells to do so.

I know what you're talking about. And I know that you don't.

Yeah I too wait on even better.

[DrYak]

Anyway, it would be nice to have a broader upgrade range. While AMD's pattern is superior, it's still far from ideal, especially when they too have socket variations.

I agree on this point. Athough, as I said, there's aa good commitment coming from AMD of stabilising the AM2/AM2+/AM3 family, we could hope even better.

Now that the on-CPU-die memory controller has definitely decoupled the CPU/Memory (the fast evolving part) from the northbridge/motherboard (much more constant - except maybe for the graphical connector), it could be realy fun of having motherboard with HTX connectors and CPU/memory slotcket which communicates with hytertransport. May even give good possibilities for graphic cards (stream engines on the same hypertransport bus as the CPU. Cool). Also same multi-HTX board could be both used for small class multi-CPU servers for small offices / home offices AND high-level gaming rig. Or server grade multi-HTX server motherboard could be used for hardcore gaming machines.