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Best Presidential Candidate for Nerds?

blast writes "Given the broad field of candidates, I was wondering who the community thinks will make the best President when it comes to representing issues Slashdot readers might care about? Eg: privacy, 'total information awareness', Internet regulation and taxation, net neutrality, copyright/patent reform, the right to read, the right to secure communications, the right to tinker. Who do you think best represents your views? "

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  1. Re:Ok, but elaborate about Al Gore by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 3, Informative

    Dont forget that he's on the board of Apple. He's also an unofficial advisor to google and cofounded something called Current TV which I'd never heard of before, but looks like youtube. Are there even any other politicians as tech saavy as he is, much less one that is hoped to be running for president?

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  2. Re:Ron Paul by cyberkahn · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, I am in for Ron Paul. Not only for Internet issues, but because he actually believes in the Constitution and Habeas Corpus.

  3. Re:Ron Paul! by jrsumm · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'll take a stab at actually guesssing what Ron Paul's views on this are. No, I didn't read his website specifically looking for this so I could be wrong, this is just based on what I know of his philosophy and voting record.

    privacy/total information awareness: He is as much a privacy nut a the biggest nut job here. Essentially, since the US Constitution does not explicitly grant the federal government the power to collect the data then the government does not have that power. Period. A little more unclear is his opinion on states/corporations gathering information. Corps first... my take on it is that even though he would be apalled by the practice, corporations are private entities and so the government should not prohibit then from collecting data. I really don't want to hazard a guess as to his views on state governments collecting and using data. Obviously he's opposed to it, but whether the feds should prohibit it... you'll just have to ask him.

    Internet regulation and taxation: This one's easy. He's opposed to it. Period. Never voted for a tax in his life. Note that since the constitution grants the feds power to regulate interstate commerce, the question is not purely consitutional. It also means he would have no problem prohibitting states from enacting thier own taxes.(I am supposoing here...)

    net neutrality: This one has me stumped. On one hand, he would support the rights of providers to run their business the way they see fit. On the other hand, they are usually government granted monopolies which he opposed. I'll have to look into this...

    copyright/patent reform: This one is the one that he would disagree with most slashdotters on. While I am sure he would agree tate the current patent office is broken, I am pretty sure he will conceptually side with patent holders on this one.

    the right to read: Not sure what is really meant by this? Talking about censorship perhaps? If so, then he is most certainly opposed to all forms of censorship.

    the right to secure communications: I am pretty sure he would see this as a free speach issue, so yes he would be in favor of it.

    the right to tinker: Pretty sure he would support this as well, despite the patent/copyright implications. At least so long it is for personal use. But this is a guess on my part.

    There are things I disagree with Ron Paul on, especially his anti-immigration stances, but overall he is the one I agree with the most. I even changed my affiliation to Republican(from unaffiliated) so that I could vote for him in the primary. Do I think it would be best if he did win... not sure. But I know we need a lot more people like him in office so that maybe, a generation or two from now, we'll have the same rights we used to. It will take that long.

  4. Re:RON PAUL is a 30's idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Bull shit he is all for free trade. In fact he wants lower tariffs. I hate disinformation jerks like you. It's the reason why the wrong people get elected.

    http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2005/tst060605.ht m

    "We don't need government agreements to have free trade. We merely need to lower or eliminate taxes on the American people, without regard to what other nations do. Remember, tariffs are simply taxes on consumers. Americans have always bought goods from abroad; the only question is how much our government taxes us for doing so."

  5. Re:Simple by Workaphobia · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did you even see "An Inconvenient Truth"? They had this staged conversation on his cellphone as he was typing at his computer. As the conversation became more dramatic towards the end, he positioned his finger over a key and at the right climactic moment, pressed it. The key was the spacebar.

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  6. Why NOT to vote for Ron Paul by geekoid · · Score: 3, Informative

    # Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
    # Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
    # Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)
    # Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother's life. (Oct 2003)
    # Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
    # Voted YES on funding for health providers who don't provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)
    # Voted YES on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)

    # Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)

    # No federal funding of abortion, and pro-life. (Dec 2000)

    Voted YES on restricting bankruptcy rules. (Jan 2004)

    Voted YES on protecting the Pledge of Allegiance. (Sep 2004)

    Voted YES on vouchers for private & parochial schools (AKA religious schools)

    Voted NO on prohibiting oil drilling & development in ANWR.
    Voted YES on barring website promoting Yucca Mountain nuclear waste dump.
    Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids.
    Rated 76% by the Christian Coalition: a pro-family voting record. (Dec 2003)
    Voted YES on continuing intelligence gathering without civil oversight. (Apr 2006)
    Rated 100% by FAIR, indicating a voting record restricting immigration. (Dec 2003)
    Voted YES on eliminating the Estate Tax ("death tax"). (Apr 2001)

    Voted NO on establishing "network neutrality" (non-tiered Internet). (Jun 2006)

    In short, he wants to cut services, not allow woman to make up their own minds, and do what supports his belief in the magical tooth fairy...oh sorry "god"

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  7. Green Party by sepluv · · Score: 4, Informative
    I'm surprised no one seems to have mentioned the Greens who tend to be more into civil liberties, transparency, participatory democracy, cutting back copyright law (inc. supporting free software), &c than the other parties which would appeal to a lot of the /. crowd.

    I'm British (and biased as I was a Green candidate over here this month) so I don't know much about the US Green Party's policies, but looking at RMS's website, he seems to be promoting them.

    According to Wikipedia, the announced prospective Green candidates are Alan Augustson, Elaine Brown, Kent Mesplay and Kat Swift and there is speculation that Ralph Nader, Cynthia McKinney, Rebecca Rotzler, Cindy Sheehan and Al Gore might stand for the Greens.

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    1. Re:Green Party by greenguy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, someone did above. But I appreciate you doing so also!

      Among the liberatrian-minded (as most of the people commenting here appear to be, though that's no surprise at Slashdot), Greens are given a bad rap as carrying on the worst elements of state socialism. In fact, this is not the case:

      Greens favor devolving power to states and even municipalities
      Greens want government out of our bedrooms
      Greens want to decriminalize (most) drugs
      Greens have no interest in taking guns away from law-abiding citizens
      Greens understand that so-called "free-trade" treaties are just the government shilling for corporate power
      Greens are big fans of free software

      And some of you will remember that 2004 Green Party Presidential candidate David Cobb and Libertarian Party Presidential candidate Michael Badnarik appeared together in the most lucid and respectful debates in generations -- and then fought together for the integrity of the vote after the election that neither of them managed to win. They disagreed on some topics, but actually agreed on more.

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  8. Re:Meh, you could do worse, I suppose by falconwolf · · Score: 3, Informative

    Like all libertarians, he advocates rights for the rich, and slavery for the poor.

    Are you saying I advocate rights for the rich and slavery for the poor? I am Libertarian AND poor and I advocate liberty for all, not just the rich. Fact is is that reducing government and therefore taxes will mean there is more money available to create new jobs, whereas big government can destroy jobs.

    Falcon
  9. Re:Ron Paul - Voted Against Patriot Act! by DragonWriter · · Score: 3, Informative

    He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.


    This is, in fact, untrue. Congressman Paul has voted for numerous criminal laws, including the federal ban on dilation & extraction ("Partial Birth") abortions. Every criminal law increases the discretionary power of the executive branch, since it can choose to prosecute or not (or to pardon or not) any criminal offense. Whether this is a good thing or a bad thing is probably debated best case-by-case on each particular law, but that's not the claim being advanced.

  10. Re:Simple by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ron Paul is different. Check his congressional voting record. Go on. I dare you. It doesn't even slightly resemble any Demopublican or Republicrat you could possibly name. Then check his web site for his stated positions, and compare them to his voting record. You're in for a heck of a surprise. The man isn't evil at all. I don't agree with every position he holds, but the vast majority, I do. Furthermore, they actually are his positions and he actually votes his positions. It'd be a total mindf*ck to have a politician in the white house who made every effort to be reasonable, honest, and true to the constitutional basis of their job. Go on, check him out. I know you haven't, because even if you completely disagreed with the man, you'd never compare him to the run of the mill candidate. You'd have to disagree with him for entirely new reasons. :)

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  11. Re:Simple by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, I am. These states: AR, MA, MD, NC, PA, SC, TN and TX all have such provisions. See this page.

    Amazing, isn't it?

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  12. Re:Simple by stinerman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Those laws are on the books, but I doubt they'd pass constitutional muster. Of course, that provision won't be tested anytime soon because of this poll:

    Gallup. 2/9-11. Adults. MoE 3% (no trend lines)
    If your party nominated a well-qualified Candidate For WH '08 who was _, would you vote for that person?

    Yes No
    Catholic 95% 4%
    Black 94 5
    Jewish 92 7
    A woman 88 11
    Hispanic 87 12
    Mormon 72 24
    Married for third time 67 30
    72 years old 57 42
    A homosexual 55 43
    An atheist 45 53

    Remember, even if you're well qualified, if you don't believe in the man in the sky, you aren't going to win an election.

  13. Re:Meh, you could do worse, I suppose by falconwolf · · Score: 4, Informative

    The point is, the libertarian position is directly against wealth redistribution. In most modern societies, this is done through progressive taxing, luxury taxes, and estate taxes. Without those tools, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and eventually are so far behind that they are pretty much slaves.

    Stealing from the rich and giving to uncle Sam you mean? Allow more people to keep more of the money they earn then they can create new jobs which benefit everyone. They can do this in two ways. The more money people can keep that they earn, the more they can invest and/or spend. Investing means more money can be used for research and for job creation. The more people spend the more jobs can be created as well. Whereas with government, with few exceptions government is less efficient than the capital market. Also more money goes to the already wealthy.

    For instance in the US large multinational agriculture corporations get billions of dollars in subsidies yearly. That was a big reason the WTO meetings in Geneva fell apart. India and other countries demanded the EU, Japan, and the US to stop subsidizing these businesses because with subsidizies multinationals can sell food in India, South Korea, and Mexico cheaper than farmers in these countries can grow food. If you live in the US do you ever wonder why so many Mexicans and other Latin Americans come to the US as "illegal aliens or immigrants"? Many of them are being driven off of their farms because they can't compete with subsidized US agribusinesses who are able to export food to Mexico and sale it cheaply there.

    Read some Marx.

    I have read him, as well as Hilter's book. I've also read Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations , various writings from Thomas Paine, and Natural Capitalism by Paul Hawken, Amory Lovins, and L Hunter Lovins of the Rocky Mountain Institute.

    Falcon
  14. You are mistaken. Clinton RAISED taxes in 1993 by Nova+Express · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Clinton's tax cuts occurred in 1993 when Democrats had control of Congress and the white house.

    Wrong. I don't know why anyone modded you up for this gross and blatent revisionism, but Clinton promised tax cuts in 1992, then delivered tax increases in 1993. Just search Google for "1993 Clinton Tax Cut".

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  15. Immigration laws are unconstitutional by ghoul · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is nothing in the constititution about immigration laws. Immigration laws were an unconstitutional addition in 1882 the Chinese exclusion Act - a blatantly racist act. Before that there were no laws preventing anyone in the world from coming to America and as long as they followed American laws they were Americans. Since its not even constitutional to have immigration laws on a national basis how can you have it between states?

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