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University of Ohio Abandons Students Attacked by RIAA

newtley writes "The University of Ohio was putting a brave face on being #1 on the RIAA hit list, but it now appears they have caved in to RIAA intimidation. Now, 'It appears that many institutions are simply prepared to wash their hands, refusing even to question the tactics of the industry,' let alone giving students meaningful legal assistance, says Ohio lawyer Joe Hazelbaker. He's written to OU associate director of legal affairs Barbara Nalazek saying, 'Ohio University has an obligation to protect the privacy of its students and their records, which includes directory information.' The Recording Industry vs. The People blog is hosting a letter universities whose students being attacked might want to consider."

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  1. Stop Downloading Crap Music? by morari · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The RIAA only cares about popular "artists", after all...

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    "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." --Paul Atreides, Dune
    1. Re:Stop Downloading Crap Music? by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The money gets passed on. Think of it like momentum.
      I buy a CD, artist gets their $0.50. I sell the CD to a friend, artist doesn't get a cut but now I have another $9 to spend on another CD.

      Compare this to only downloading.
      I buy a CD, artist gets their $0.50. I upload the music and half a million people get the song; artist gets nothing, I never get an additional cent to buy another CD.

  2. Victims? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It sounds to me like we're making a classic stupid military mistake: we keep on defending ourselves, at our homes, schools, and workplaces.

    So let me ask: how do we take the fight to them? How do we start fscking over the RIAA / MPAA / Disney / NJ Turnpike Authority?

  3. Re:Slashdot's hugely biased reporting by zhrike · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Now, what's funny is that all those emotional buzzwords ignore that these students were caught illegally ripping artists off.

    Ok, the use of buzzwords is one thing, but your ignorance is entirely another. You are making a leap in logic, and against the
    presumption of innocence. The RIAA has a history ... a documented history, mind you, of making blanket accusations, and many of
    those accusations have been shown to be wholly erroneous ... as in they accused individuals who were proven to be innocent (which
    is not the burden, of course). The RIAA has lost cases where this has occurred, and has had to remunerate their intended victims.
    Perhaps you are just as biased as those you claim use emotionally-laden language, hmm?

  4. Re:Slashdot's hugely biased reporting by BakaHoushi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wow. You're not only a troll, but a pretty lousy one at that. (And please, for the love of God, don't play the persecuted minority card.) But let me give you a simple link:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_efforts_against_ file_sharing#Criticism
    A list of people who have been sued for downloading songs when they didn't own a computer, know how to use one, weren't even 13, and had no clue as to either how to use a computer or the consequences of downloading. Hey, they've even tried to sue dead people!

    And this list is obviously incomplete. And let me ask you: How did the RIAA find out about who took what? It obviously isn't very effective. And considering that they've gone to courts to ask for permission to lie to customers to snoop for information, they've threatened ISPs into handing over data, etc.

    Honestly, if a company wanted to read your mail and check your packages for stolen goods without any warrant, would you be fine with that? I fucking wouldn't, that's for sure. So why should we put up with it in our digital mail?

    And hey, here's ANOTHER question. How do you know these threatened students are guilty? You seem to have a pretty clear attitude of "guilty until proven innocent."

    I mean, suppose for a second that ALL these kids are innocent. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. We don't know. But for the sake of argument, let's say they are. How, exactly, are they going to get out of this? Hire a good lawyer? Yeah, because a bunch of college students can hire a great lawyer to match wits with the RIAA's team of lawyers. Their choices include settle for thousands of dollars or... well, that's it, really.

    It'd be one thing if they WERE just protecting their "rights." But they're doing so by taking wild shots in the dark, forcing people into expensive settlements, and trying to bend or break the law into their own will. That's a FUCK ton worse than downloading Paris Hilton or whoever the fuck is out there's latest overpriced shit.

    And yeah, copyright infringement is NOT theft. That's why it's CALLED infringement, NOT THEFT. Theft involves taking something. I take the money from your wallet. That's stealing. I hijack your car. That's stealing. I COPY your book. That's infringement. (Notice how in all but one example you lose the ability to use the object? That is a key point)

  5. Re:Slashdot's hugely biased reporting by BakaHoushi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I will admit my original wording was, at best, poor, but what I was attempting to say was that the legality of such things is questions. A police officer will not raid your house for downloading an advanced screening of a movie. Especially given the further confusion of fair use. (What if you already own a movie/CD and download it?) These matters are very rarely, if ever, resolved by the government. They are almost always a matter of private lawsuits.

    For another example, fan fiction and fan art, except where explicitly approved by the creators, are in fact acts of copyright infringement. You're using established and copyrighted characters and stories for your own use. However, companies find this to be free advertising in many cases, or too trivial to worry about. Yet we don't have police attempting to shut down fan-fiction.net. Why isn't DeviantART being pulled down for numerous charges?

    This is why I said, though poorly, it was not illegal. Personal use, as opposed to ripping DVDs/CDs and selling them on a market somewhere, is often a very disputable act.