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Storing Personal Music Online Is Illegal In Japan

An anonymous reader writes "A decision in Tokyo District Court could have implications in Japan for online services that let users store files, if any music files are involved. The court case pitted JASRAC, the Japanese organization that collects fees for public music performances, against Image City, whose MYUTA service lets users employ a central server to store songs from their own CDs, to play on their own phones. The Tokyo District Court handed down a ruling declaring Image City guilty of copyright infringement (Google translation). Despite the music being stored strictly for personal use, the ruling reasoned that the act of uploading music to a central server owned by a company is the equivalent of distributing music to that company. This has implications for other services such as Yahoo! Briefcase and Apple's .Mac, which could mean these companies are guilty of copyright infringement if any of their users in Japan store music in their accounts for personal use. Here are some additional details on JASRAC's activities and methods." Neither article talks about possible appeals, or about how strong a precedent this case sets in the Japanese legal system.

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  1. Which is why encryption should be used by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the data is encrypted, and they don't have the key, you haven't distributed anything to them.

    1. Re:Which is why encryption should be used by vakuona · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thank you for the heads up. We shall cover this in an addendum.

      RIAARUS

    2. Re:Which is why encryption should be used by PoliTech · · Score: 3, Informative
      You can take it a step further ... Drive encryption with a decoy OS to which you provide officer friendly the password, once logged in an auto overwrite process begins and the "Real" OS hidden in the FAT table of the Decoy OS is destroyed as all of the "Free Space" on the drive is overwritten with ones and zeros a time or ten.

      http://www.securstar.com/products_drivecryptpp.php

      That software is not open source however. but for the really paranoid a hundred and twenty five bucks is a small price to pay.

    3. Re:Which is why encryption should be used by Atlantis-Rising · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Presumably, given that they didn't have the encryption key in the first instance, having an encryption key in the second that begins deletion is irrelevant. It's still illegal to destroy evidence. Instead of being thrown in jail for what they thought you did originally, they'll just throw you in for contempt and destruction of evidence.

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    4. Re:Which is why encryption should be used by PoliTech · · Score: 3, Interesting

      How would anyone ever know there was any evidence? The "Decoy" OS is the "real McCoy" ( a fully functioning OS) and no one but the owner of the data even knows about the obfuscated OS. You Gave them the encryption key to the computer OS. You Cooperated. Officer friendly found nothing, you go on your way. Really, it's not that difficult, and it's what the corporations are doing right now to limit liability. If you have sensitive or compromising data, you should pursue an encryption plan today.

  2. Those wacky japanese by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Funny

    Shifting copyright works? bad.
    Animated tentical rape? ok.

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    1. Re:Those wacky japanese by ag0ny · · Score: 4, Informative

      Now, seriously, hentai aside. we're talking about a conutry in which selling used CDs is illegal. I am not making this up. That's not true. Selling useD CDs or DVDs in Japan is completely legal. You can find LOTS in most DVD rental shops, and in second hand stores like Book Off (Books, CDs, DVDs, console games...)

  3. This is fubar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So I rent an apartment, and I store some of my music CDs in there, and then the RIAA sues my landlord for copyright infringement?

    If I rent storage space online for my own personal use, I can put anything I want in there, including backup copies of my legally owned music collection.

    Anything less, and my fair use rights are being violated.

    1. Re:This is fubar by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ha! I believe copying whatever the hell we like is a natural right that everyone has.. and copyright is the law that takes that right away from us - apparently for the betterment of society. I don't think it is the choice, but even if it was, I'd rather have more freedom than have more creative works, if that's the choice to be made.

      Unfortunately, every time I get on the soap box, a vocal minority comes and calls me names like "pirate".

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  4. "Online"? by ScytheBlade1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Online?

    Er. Okay. What is "online" - does this mean on a server somewhere on the vast internet which you've purchased? Or would your personal computer - which is "online" - count?

    "[..] the ruling reasoned that the act of uploading music to a central server owned by a company is the equivalent of distributing music to that company." Uploading music to a central server. So when the user has a networked place to store files, would this qualify? Assuming you were the owner or a business which had one other employee, if you uploaded your music to your server for your business, would this be a violation?

    So many questions.. so many loopholes.. such broad legal decisions.

  5. Good to know by pavera · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That the US isn't the only country with a totally screwed legal system and idiots for judges!

  6. There has to be more to this by NMerriam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What about online backup services? They're growing in popularity as bandwidth comes down in price. I have 200 gigs of music included in my encrypted remote backup set. Nobody can get at it but me, it is just random data as far as the host is concerned.

    I can't imagine a nation as technically literate as Japan would essentially make it illegal for people to do remote backup (since 99.9% of people have SOME music on their hard drive, if only the windows startup sound or whatever other audio files come with your OS and applications).

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  7. Bad, but not as bad as it looks at first glance by Whuffo · · Score: 4, Informative
    The court's decision is pretty narrowly defined - if the server is owned by someone else, then uploading music to it is considered distributing.

    So if you upload it to your own server this decision wouldn't necessarily apply. This brings up some interesting ideas; suppose a server farm was operated as a co-op where all the users own shares of the server farm. Now, if they upload music to this server farm are they distributing it to someone else?

    How about if someone you don't know downloads a copy of a song from your server while you're not watching - is this distribution?

    The record companies are setting legal precedents right and left these days - but I wonder if they realize what kind of corner they're painting themselves into. The basic idea of the copyright owner being the one who decides who gets copies of his work for a limited time is sound. I don't think even a hardened pirate can honestly argue against this. But this simple idea has been blown up and perverted far beyond what it was intended to be by greedy businessmen. The push-back from the general public is getting stronger by the day and it's just a matter of time before these companies find themselves holding the short end of the stick.

    Want to hasten that day? Inform others of what's going on, and defund the crooks by refusing to purchase their products. Take the money out and they'll fold up very quickly.

  8. My huge mp3 collection by billcopc · · Score: 5, Funny

    How to build a huge mp3 collection:

    1. Launch company that stores users' music online
    2. Users send you all their music
    3. W00T! check out my huge crappy mp3 collection.

    I haven't figured out where to put "Profit" in there. I guess that's because I'm Canadian.

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  9. Encryption is irrelevant by Nymz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the data is encrypted, and they don't have the key, you haven't distributed anything to them.

    Encryption is simply a container, it may be locked but when you tranfer the container, you also transfer the contents.
    1. Re:Encryption is irrelevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      The analogy of encryption with a locked container is problematic in this case. If you encrypt something with a properly constructed one-time pad, for example, the ciphertext will be indistinguishable from a random set of bits. Is the plaintext "inside" the ciphertext somehow? Only if you say that all messages of the same length are inside the ciphertext.

    2. Re:Encryption is irrelevant by Firehed · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I hate that logic. If I give you a safe without telling you its contents or combination, just the instruction to hold on to it until I ask for it back, should you be held accountable for its contents? I'd say no, although I'm sure some idiot in a courtroom would say otherwise. Either way, an encrypted file is even stronger cause for plausible denyability, as its designed to actively prevent anyone but authorized parties to access its contents.

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    3. Re:Encryption is irrelevant by Carewolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That (lack of) logic would completely destroy the business of safety deposit boxes.

  10. Re:A little snag... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Funny

    Will they try to prosecute across borders like the States does?

    No, they'll send giant robots after us.

  11. Music on cell phones by HalfFlat · · Score: 4, Informative

    Music on your keitai is big business: the cell phone providers have their own music download services, and on most phones, you do not have the ability to upload mp3s or the like yourself (there are certainly some exceptions, and I believe Vodaphone phones generally did allow you much more freedom in this regard. Vodaphone were very much the minor player in the market though.)

    Services like MYUTA threaten to undermine a very lucrative source of revenue, and the music industry is a very, very powerful lobby: Sony for example were able to have the law rewritten such that importing CDs of Japanese music that Japanese publishers had licensed to overseas companies for distribution would be illegal ... as a copyright violation. With progressively higher-level manufacturing moving to China, there is strong support from the government to encourage industry to develop and invest in IP, with correspondingly strong IP laws.

  12. Not much of a "precedent", per se by achurch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is still just a district court ruling, so it doesn't set any "precedent" in the sense of binding other courts. It may influence how other district courts consider similar cases, but then again it may not; my impression is courts at the same level generally act rather independently. (There was a pair of high-profile cases late last year on privacy rights vs. government databases, where two separate high courts came to completely opposite conclusions for essentially the same circumstances.)

    IANAL, of course. I just live here.

    For the curious, the decision itself (PDF, in Japanese) can be found here.