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New Gentoo 2007.0 Release Gets Mixed Review

lisah writes "Gentoo's recently released version 2007.0 gets a fair-to-middling review from Linux.com. Installation was a headache from the live CD and DVD versions, but the Gentoo Linux Installer saved the day and gets high marks for being 'far better than it's predecessor.' The user experience is also mixed — on the one hand, the distribution boots quickly, has great hardware support, and new, user-friendly artwork. On the other hand, 'for some strange reason, the installed Gentoo doesn't allow normal users to run any administrative applications.' Overall, it doesn't look like Gentoo offers any compelling reasons to switch to 'Secret Sauce' if they're happy with their current, uh, flavor."

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  1. Re:Gentoo-Linux-Zealot Translator-o-matic! by garlicbready · · Score: 5, Informative

    Like with everything else it has it's advantages and it's disadvantages
    it all depends on what you want to use it for
    (it's a bit like hitting a screw with a hammer and saying, hmmm this isn't going into the wall very well)

    if you want something that's going to work first time, and that your not going to have to arse about setting up
    (e.g. a commercial environment) then go with a rpm solution like redhat or suse (this way you've always got the option of support as well at the same time)

    If you want something for running the latest cutting edge software and damned the consequences
    the sort of person that would make the attempt at building his own conservatory on the side of his house go for Gentoo

    Disadvantages
    1. it's source based
    which can mean less stable / well tested
    ultimately gentoo is a source based dist, which means any binary files you end up with won't have been tested
    and there's no guarantee of behavior as it all depends on how things have been linked

    2. rpm's do some amount of checking when installing the binary, with gentoo it's assumed that whatever has been compiled is correct
    (unless make install throws up an error during the build process or you write some checking into the script it's not always possible to guarantee that everything is installed the way it's supposed to be
    admitily problems are rare but do crop up now and again

    3. it takes ages to compile / install etc
    the trade-off here is having access to the latest stuff, so I'm happy with this one

    Advantages
    1. if you want to get something working that's only just been released
          it takes me 5 mins to write an ebuild script
          it takes much longer to write an rpm spec file
          (this especially comes in handy when your trying to add / remove patches / custom graft as part of the script)
          the reason for this is a lot of the common stuff has been functionalised (is that a word?) into eclass files
          this makes the whole thing default to a certain common behavior unless overridden in the script

          also you don't have to list all the files that should be installed as it works it out for itself all auto-magically
          in an ideal scenario for rpm you'd at least have both options depending on the use of the system (do some checking, don't do some checking)
          ideally I'd really like rpm to take on some of the same advantages as this one (why not?, it might need testing / change of spec files but it'd be well worth it)

    2. a lot of the scripts that form the bootup are much more up-to-date
          again most of the stuff in the /etc/init.d scripts has been placed into common functions referenced elsewhere
          it's part of the whole "if it's not broke don't fix it" thing, which in principle gives advantages to commonality if everyone is using the same sort of
          startup scripts if your writing a RPM for several dists and may be more stable / tested
          but the gentoo method is much simpler to write for / more automated

    3. it's sourced based
          which means it'll run on pretty much anything, any weird ass bit of hardware you can throw at it (usually)
          (PS3 hint hint)

    Personally I'm confident I can fix most things when they go wrong in the portage tree, via an overlay (or at least have the patience to wait for it to be fixed). but for the average Joe user in an office that couldn't give a monkey's for that sort of thing something binary / rpm is better suited

    There's probably lots of stuff I've missed here but the general idea is
    if you like home brew go to Gentoo (mmm tasty brew)
    If you like it plain and flat go for Red Hat