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Job Cuts For Dell, Motorola, and Circuit City

maeveth writes "Talk about not a good time to be working in the tech sector. Layoffs all over the industry have been announced, in a variety of different areas. Last week Dell announced they were partnering with Wal-Mart; this week they are planning a ten-percent reduction in their global workforce. Motorola was already going to cut some 3500 jobs by the end of June; they're now adding another 4000 pink slips to that number (and hoping that next month's RAZR2 launch will boost profits). To top it all off Circuit City is acting in a decidedly schizophrenic manner. The are going to axe about 850 employees, on top of the 70 stores they closed last month ... while also planning to open 165 new stores."

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  1. the sky's not falling by softwaredoug · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Meanwhile, every tech place I know can't hire fast enough. The good candidates are getting soaked up by the market fast. Wasn't there a stat recently that computer people are in higher demand than during the tech boom? But maybe its just a localized phenomena where I live.

    1. Re:the sky's not falling by ushering05401 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      An old tech veteran I know made a good point. The industry does not need to be healthier for there to be more positions than back in the boom. We are just years down the line and the integration of technology into our society has continued apace... becoming more prevelant in everyday life... less visible and more taken for granted (except for when, say, your cell phone erases your car key).

      The industry is larger but not necessarily healthier, more profitable, or better-off in general.

      Regards.

  2. The articles don't say ... by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... where the cuts will occur. Obviously the Circuit City cuts will be in the US, but what about Dell & Moto? Any bets that they are not in the call centers of India? The Dell article mentions employees in England & Ireland but doesn't say where the cuts will be.

    Nothing like making the employees pay for management's bad decisions.

  3. Schizofrenia? by hibiki_r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What's so strange about closing 70 locations and opening 165? Anyone that has had anything to do with corporate retail planning can see that it can make perfect sense: The company wants to grow, so they add more stores, at the same time, some stores have been performing so badly that they think the location will never be profitable enough, so they are closed.

    The only surprising part is that we are talking about all that many stores at the same time: It either means that the former management was ignoring all the indicators, or that the new management has just gone overboard to make a point.

    Either way, it's something that seems perfectly healthy for a retail chain to do.

  4. Re:Dell, Motorola, Circuit City by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Quite a few ways...

    Circuit City and Dell are retailers. Moto is not.

    Dell and Motorola make products, circuit city just sells them.

    Dell and Circuit City are hated by portions of the population.

    Circuit City treats their employees worse than anyone else in the United States and should die a horrible death. My mother worked in HR there for a bit... did I mention she has no degree?

  5. Tech sector? by TimeTrav · · Score: 5, Insightful

    FTFA:

    "This time around, the company [Circuit City] axed roughly one manager from each of its 654 stores along with nearly 200 positions at its Richmond, VA headquarters."

    How does sacking a bunch of retail managers and back office support staff spell doom for tech sector employees? I understand that job cuts are bad things, but I don't think this one should be lumped in with the tech sector.

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    1. Re:Tech sector? by ajanp · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Yeah, this seems like a bit of an exaggeration to somehow group job cuts from 3 companies and claim that it's a bad time to be working in the tech sector.

      1. We know that most of the Circuit City cuts are from management/unprofitable locations - the cuts (and the company tbh) seems like it has more to do with sales/retail sector than it does with the actual tech sector, not to mention the fact that they are opening 165 new stores in areas they hope will be more profitable.

      2. We don't really know what types of jobs are being cut at Motorola, but they're being done in response to primarily increased competition from Nokia and lagging sales.

      We are taking steps to ensure that, as these cost reductions are implemented, there will be no adverse impact on customer service and support, product quality and those research and development programs that are expected to contribute meaningfully to Motorola's revenues, profits and cash flow in 2008 and beyond

      Seems like the tech jobs working on R&D/customer support are actually pretty safe at the moment.

      3. Dell already said that the "scale of the cutbacks would vary across each region depending on current trading, and general business and legal considerations", so it's known that the job cuts will take place worldwide. They also said

      "In response, it has overhauled its management team and focused on improving technical support for customers and moving into fast-growing markets like China and Brazil" Seems like they will be laying off a lot of management and probably a lot of the more useless tech support folks abroad in favor or more experienced, and more knowledgeable tech/customer support. Either way, it's a far stretch to say that it's a bad time to be working in the tech sector just because three very loosely affiliated companies announce layoffs.
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  6. Circuit City != tech sector by Gadgit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Perhaps someone can inform me how people getting laid off at Circuit City is any indicator of the status of the tech sector. Now I have never bought anything from a Circuit City but they weren't the most technically adept people I have ever talked to...just a bunch of dullards spouting numbers off of a tag and having no clue what they actually mean. I can see Motorola and Dell, but lumping Circuit City in there is just grasping for straws

  7. Sorry, this is to please Wall Street only by postbigbang · · Score: 4, Insightful

    During growth cycles in the stock markets, like the record-breaking S&P 500, it's very typical for companies to shed employees. It has nothing to do with Tech as an industry segment, has nothing to do with outsourcing, has nothing to do with EducationInAmericaToday, has nothing to do with anything but pleasing Wall Street. This allows stockholders to fatten up the stock price, lower DE ratios, and at the end of the day, inject new blood.

    Does it suck? Of course it does. Wall Street is a nasty bitch.

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  8. Schizo? by RickOfTheHillPeople · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "decidedly schizophrenic manner"

    Schizophrenia != Split Personality

  9. Tech Industry? by TheOldSchooler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't know if I'd really consider working for Circuit City to be part of the "tech industry". More like retail sales.

  10. Re:This'd be a feature of printing money. by megaditto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bad times? What are you smoking.

    Here is today's article from NY Times Dell Reports Better-Than-Expected Profit http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/01/technology/01del l.html

    The reason these people are laid off is because the companies want even more profits, not because they are losing money during "bad times."

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  11. Re:Dell, Motorola, Circuit City by bynary · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I consider Dell as much a part of the Tech sector as I do Kenmore or Whirlpool.

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  12. Re:Dell, Motorola, Circuit City by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Right. Circuit City is a retailer. Their industry is the same as Wal*Mart, CompUSA, etc. They are not a 'tech' company anymore than RadioShack, Wal*Mart or Amazon.com.

    However, most of the jobs that are being cut in these companies are unskilled, low-paying jobs. Everywhere I look sysadmins, DBAs, network admins, developers and systems analysts are in high demand -- IOW, the higher-paying, higher-skilled jobs in the tech industry.

  13. Re:Dell, Motorola, Circuit City by radtea · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Your company does well and STILL you get massive layoffs.

    Yeah, this is how broken corporate America is. If your company does badly, lay people off to reduce costs (Motorola). If your company does well, lay people off to increase apparent productivity (Dell). And if you have a senior cadre of expensive workers who have built the foundation for your success over the years, lay them off (Circuit City).

    If you have a problem, we have a layoff.

    Take home message: no one should ever under any circumstances be loyal to any company beyond the exact penny of their last pay-cheque.

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  14. Re:Dell, Motorola, Circuit City by jadin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe this quote from the article would make more sense :

    "By now, it is accepted wisdom that Wal-Mart makes the companies it does business with more efficient and focused, leaner and faster. Wal-Mart itself is known for continuous improvement in its ability to handle, move, and track merchandise. It expects the same of its suppliers. But the ability to operate at peak efficiency only gets you in the door at Wal-Mart. Then the real demands start. The public image Wal-Mart projects may be as cheery as its yellow smiley-face mascot, but there is nothing genial about the process by which Wal-Mart gets its suppliers to provide tires and contact lenses, guns and underarm deodorant at every day low prices. Wal-Mart is legendary for forcing its suppliers to redesign everything from their packaging to their computer systems. It is also legendary for quite straightforwardly telling them what it will pay for their goods."