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Russia Claims IP Rights In Manufacture of AK-47

Daniel Dvorkin writes "In the latest example of over-the-top intellectual property demands, Russia wants licensing fees for the production of AK-47s. According to first deputy prime minister Sergei Ivanov, the unlicensed production of Kalashnikovs (which have been around in very nearly their current form for 60 years) in ex-Soviet Bloc countries is 'intellectual piracy.' A giant but declining power starts demanding royalties on commonly used methods and materials that are widely understood, well known, and by any reasonable standard have long been in the public domain — does this sound familiar?" Wikipedia notes that the Izhevsk Machine Tool Factory in Russia obtained a patent on the manufacture of the AK-47 in 1999.

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  1. Sounds fair to me by dattaway · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They got a patent. Doesn't matter who they bribed to get it. Its the law. Pay up.

    This is what we get for playing IP games and "owning" ideas.

    1. Re:Sounds fair to me by Tom+Womack · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Romania is probably the hardest country of Eastern Europe to intimidate by means of gas supplies; it has quite substantial local production of oil (Ploesti used to be the oil capital of Europe) and of natural gas, a couple of modern nuclear reactors at Cernavoda on the Black Sea coast, and exports electricity.

      Central Romania feels very energy-poor, but that's an infrastructure rather than an availability issue; it's a big place, and not a wealthy one, and they haven't yet got round to putting in the wires and the pipes universally.

  2. Russia? No, the company. by bigtangringo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sounds to me like it's the company with the patent that's asking for royalties, not Russia itself.

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  3. No one would listen by MikeRT · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Take a good look at the countries that commonly use AK-47s. You're not likely to find a whole of big fans of intellectual property rights there.

  4. Re:Pay or Die! by linuxmeltz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nahhh, invading is sooo old school-- they'll just point some ballistic weapons your way and cut off your gas supply..

  5. Prior art, etc. by ktakki · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From what I understand, Mikhail Kalashnikov based parts of the AK-47 design on various other weapons. The trigger group and bolt resemble those of the M1 Garand, and the pistol grip and gas assembly resemble those of the German StG44 (widely considered to be the first true assault rifle). [Source: AK47, Duncan Long, Paladin Press 1988] How much original content must a design have before it can be patentable?

    During the Cold War, at least a dozen Warsaw Pact and non-aligned countries produced copies and variants of the AK47, with the Soviet Union's tacit, if not overt, blessing. Even now, new AKs are being built by blacksmiths in Pakistan and US gunsmiths (the latter do this to comply with ATF regulations that prohibit import of receivers and assembled rifles).

    Now that the Cold War is over, Russia wants to get paid? I'd think that with all their oil and gas income, licensing fees would be a pittence by comparison.

    k.

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  6. Re:Controlling the Russian Beast by HiThere · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...The Russians make a mockery of the G-8 and its principles. This demand for licensing fees on supposed patents of a 60-year-old technology is the latest in a string of non-Western activities...

    That doesn't sound non-Western to me. I wish it did, but wishes don't make truth.

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    I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  7. Re:Pay or Die! by llefler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    America are getting scarier and scarier recently. Invading sovereign nations, new missile installations, secret CIA prisons, human rights violations of 'enemy combatants', an administration that disregards world opinion. More than a little worrying, especially the pace it seems to be going at.

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  8. Re:Controlling the Russian Beast by sanman2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What crap. Same old Russia-baiting BS. The US has gone out of its way to damage relations with Russia. Look at how Yeltsin's concentration of powers and suppression of political opponents was vigorously supported by the US -- just as long as he was dismantling Russia, the US didn't care. But as soon as someone isn't playing ball with Uncle Sam, then the diatribes start. Sorry, but there's no credibility in that.

  9. Re:Controlling the Russian Beast by baldass_newbie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Look at how Yeltsin's concentration of powers and suppression of political opponents was vigorously supported by the US -- just as long as he was dismantling Russia, the US didn't care.

    Mod parent up as insightful. Buddy of mine had a grad school prof who was a Russian expert that was called in by Clinton. Told Bubba that he should support Democracy and not Yeltsin.
    Ol' Bubba loved dealing with a drunk Yeltsin too much to do the noble thing and...we have reaped what he sowed.
    I watched it happen and thought it was a bad idea to support Yeltsin, but Clinton felt he was getting a patsy, thinking short term and not about the future or the damage his actions might have on others.

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  10. Re:Pay or Die! by MsGeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Folks like you are what scares me. Comparing the nightmarish kleptocracy/dictatorship in the USA to the nightmarish kleptocracy/dictatorship Russia has become is quite realistic. If you prefer the Russian model, vote for Giuliani: he's openly advocated more "preventative war" in the Middle East and elsewhere. Yep-- denounce individualism, appeal to fear, give no-bid contracts to your cronies -- vote GOP!

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  11. When was direct democracy tried? by Anonymous+McCartneyf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Among adult males in Ancient Athens. The finest pure democracy ever, and it still ordered Socrates to take hemlock.

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  12. Re:Pay or Die! by technos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My apologies, and thank you for the correction. I actually looked, and I am not only 100% wrong but you are 100% right.

    In my defense, I was remembering a conversation eight years past with a neighbor fifty years my senior. And hosing it. That or Sully hosed it in the first place, I'm not sure.

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  13. Re:Pay or Die! by jafac · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Um - even Halliburton's CEO said that the job was too big for his company.

    That's what subcontractors are for.

    The argument that Halliburton was the only company big enough for the job is so completely bogus, it's laughable. That's the ignorant Sunday afternoon talkshow talking point.

    The Pentagon could have farmed it out to a number of smaller contractors, with anyone else being a primary, and the rest a sub, or they could have split it up to a smaller number of contracts with multiple primaries. This no-bid contract was pure war-profiteering. Nothing more. The proof is in the result. The amount of fraud and waste in this deal is the worst in history. And that was determined under a regime of very unusually relaxed bookkeeping rules that Congressional Republicans pushed strongly for.

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