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Moore's Law for Motherboards

An anonymous reader writes "VIA CEO Wenchi Chen revealed a business card-sized motherboard billed as the 'world's first industry-standard form-factor for PC/phone convergence,' at Computex this week. The mobile-ITX" board measures 3 x 1.8 inches. It's half the size of pico-ITX, which was half the size of nano-ITX, which, in turn, was half-the size of mini-ITX — which was already small. It's not clear whether VIA will make these tiny motherboards available to end users, or if they will only be sold directly to device makers, but generally all of VIA's tiny motherboard formats have spread around to other suppliers and become widely available."

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  1. I for one... by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...welcome these new business cards. Just go to a trade show, collect business cards, and build a Beowulf cluster out of them!

  2. Is that a motherboard in your pocket... by Ngarrang · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...or are you just happy to see me?

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    1. Re:Is that a motherboard in your pocket... by Dogtanian · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...or are you just happy to see me? Personally, I don't want *anything* named "pico" confused with my genitalia.
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  3. My favorite caption in a long time by arootbeer · · Score: 5, Funny
    From the first picture of the motherboard:

    Via's mobile-ITX board prototype
    (Click to enlarge)
  4. How big? by thesolo · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's 7.62 cm x 4.57 cm, for everyone reading this who isn't American.

    Please put all smart-ass/pro-SAE comments about the metric system below this post, thanks.

    1. Re:How big? by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's 7.62 cm x 4.57 cm, for everyone reading this who isn't American.
      Wow! that's only 3.48234 × 10^-7 hectares!
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  5. Cool by KnowledgeKeeper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can't wait. Now I can finally make a powerful wearable computer. Now just to find someone who makes LCDs that look like glasses for a reasonable sum of money and I'm off to a wonderland :)

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  6. I want some... by Stanistani · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Imagine building itty-bitty robots...

    Or digital picture frames...

    Case-modding an Altoids tin...

  7. Been around for a while... by gillbates · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The embedded world has had complete computers on "motherboards" this small for quite some time. Check out gumstix sometime.

    The fundamental problem with PC based motherboards has always been heat dissipation and interface connectors. Heck, the back panel of my desktop uses more area for the connectors than exists on this board. There are processor heatsinks bigger than this thing!

    PC's have always been about cheap computing power, not low power dissipation or form factor. I remember a time when the power of your desktop was considered commensurate with the size of the box - we had friends putting regular motherboards into server towers so they could "impress" fellow geeks.

    Not that I would mind x86 in the embedded world, but it seems to me that this is going nowhere fast. The problem isn't technical - it's business. Most embedded systems run some sort of ARM variant, which would mean that code would have to be ported to x86. Furthermore, there's no way this would make it into a cellphone - primarily because of the fact that it is x86, and the carriers are adamantly opposed to the prospect of the consumer being allowed to run unauthorized code on their cellphones.

    Linux already runs on the ARM, and you still aren't seeing a proliferation of ARM-based general purpose computers. While this would be nice for a sub-notebook, the problem is that sub-notebooks, while a personal favorite of mine, typically have not done well in the marketplace. Consider the HP Jornada, which was discontinued after a few short years. And it seems today that that trend is toward larger, not smaller, laptops.

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    1. Re:Been around for a while... by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      The fundamental problem with PC based motherboards has always been heat dissipation and interface connectors.

      Various companies like Advantech have long sold expensive PC motherboards (sometimes with soldered cpu, sometimes socketed) that are dramatically smaller than the average. Most of the connectors are on headers, and you can use them or not, as you see fit. For example many people will never need serial or parallel connections - while others will never need USB. Their systems (the only ones I ever researched much) come in sizes ranging from PC/104 (which is to say, same size as a PC/104 card) to 5.25" storage device size (approx. footprint.) And some of them will run on automotive voltages, making a picopsu or similar unnecessary. But they are damned expensive! If VIA brings out a truly teensy motherboard it will fulfill a need I am currently experiencing - the need for a full PC that will fit into an ISO DIN slot. I have the entertainment system part in the car already, now I need the navigation/vehicle monitoring system to finish up, and I don't want to spend the $750+ it would take to get decent horsepower from one of the classic SBC-providing companies.

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  8. the homebrew market by blhack · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can anybody even imagine how amazing it would be if cell phone networks became like wifi? You pay a monthly fee for access and you're on. Devices like this motherboard would really really open up the possibility for a homebrew-cellphone market. What would be very interesting to see is cell phone carriers become more like ISPs. You get some bandwidth from them, and you get to use it for pretty much whatever you want.

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  9. Re:while it's cool by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    VIA processors are not known for their serious ALU performance. Granted it's cool that it has ram, but the processor sucks.

    What the processor doesn't suck is power. Low power consumption FTW!

    What about flash storage?

    It must have some, but they haven't figured out how much. But you're right, if it doesn't have a slot, it's pointless.

    And there still isn't power, a battery or AC adapter would add to the size don't you think?

    Has a DC-DC power supply, so luckily, all it needs is the battery. Batteries are getting pretty small these days.

    I mean my computer is no bigger than an a couple inches square. That is if you disregard the mobo, memory, PSU, case, disk drives, etc...

    This IS the mobo, memory, and psu. It probably has onboard flash, and if it doesn't already, it will almost certainly have some type of SD slot.

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  10. powers of 1000, not 2 by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They're going to run out of prefixes pretty quickly, since they're usually applied to powers of 1,000 rather than 2. And whatever happened to micro? milli (okay, mini), micro, nano, pico, femto, atto. I don't think there's anything past atto.

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