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Behind the Scenes of Canada's Movie Piracy Law

An anonymous reader writes "Michael Geist's latest Toronto Star column features a behind-the-scenes look at how Canada got its movie piracy bill based on internal government documents obtained under the Access to Information Act. Few will be shocked to learn that Hollywood lobbyists provided draft legislation months earlier as part of their barrage of lobbying, though the documents show that advisers to the Minister were skeptical that the proposal would accomplish anything. From the article: 'The industry's lobby efforts were clearly successful. Ignoring the inconsistent claims, the absence of evidence that Canadian films are being affected, the contrary internal advice, and the bracing reality that Hollywood has acknowledged that the U.S. is by far the largest source of illegal camcording worldwide notwithstanding its movie piracy legislation, Bill C-59 is expected to sail through Parliament. In doing so, Ottawa is sending Canadians two messages. The first is what drew the industry standing ovation - unauthorized camcording will not be tolerated in Canada even if it means diverting law enforcement resources from health and safety issues to movie theatres. The second is that private meetings, foreign pressures and lobbyist drafted bills is how law gets made in Canada.'"

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  1. uh... by froggero1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "even if it means diverting law enforcement resources from health and safety issues to movie theatres"

    I'd rather not do that... to me, health and safety is worth more than money.

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  2. Just another day in the 51st State by TheGrumpster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And this is news? Come on, you don't really think Canada (or any other "civilized" country is soverign, do you? What Hollywood (or any big business, for that matter) wants, they get, governments be damned. Face it, the only vote anyone on this planet really has is measured by how much money they have in their wallet.

    1. Re:Just another day in the 51st State by debest · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think its more along the lines of "Stephen Harper as his head shoved so far up Bush's ass that when Bush speaks, Harper can see his adenoids".

      My favourite version of this quote is, "Stephen Harper is so far up George Bush's ass that he can almost see Tony Blair's feet."
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  3. a film makers job by iplayfast · · Score: 4, Funny

    A film maker's job is to create an alternate reality and make it believable. They've just done that in real life.

  4. Without the consent of the theatre manager? by davecb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The bill, at Bill C-59 says that it's only a crime if the theatre manager says so.

    This allows the manager to set his own camera up in the projection room, which is conveient, but not as convenient as running the film through a scanner or the DVD through a duplicator.

    Perhaps the drafters think that theatre managers can't be bribed?

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  5. How they got their law: by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They bought it.

    No one should be the least bit surprised. Its how governments work now.

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  6. Went for touchdown, got field goal by Bullfish · · Score: 4, Informative

    Really. What the industry wanted was a DCMA type act in Canada. They didn't get that and they won't get that. Instead they settled for an anti-camcording law. Not many people will argue that camcording in the theatre is good. Not even the pirates like it, makes for lousy copies. In the end the industry gets a sop, and the government says, okay, we did our bit. It will make no difference to piracy in the end (Canada is not the major source of pirated movies in the world).

    No, cops won't stop doing policing over it. They are certainly not going to drop a car chase or a stakeout to go pick up a kid with a camcorder. That's just silly.

    As for the thin edge of the wedge, the conservatives are not doing well in the polls, and they only managed a minority government last time after catching the liberals in what they billed the scandal of the century. They are not going to be around for much longer anyway. Then we will get the do-nothing liberals, and that's what htey wil do - nothing.

  7. Harpers Bizzare by BillGatesLoveChild · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper? Isn't he the guy who, when IDF warplanes killed UN Canadian Peacekeepers said "Well, what were they doing there anyway?"

    Wonder if he's going to give the Canadian people back their CD levies? ($0.29 per unit for Audio Cassette tape (40min or longer); $0.77 per unit for CD-R Audio, CD-RW-Audio & MiniDisc; $0.21 per unit for CD-R, CD-RW (non audio) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy )

    Stop voting for people like this. It only encourages them.

  8. Foreign Interference?? by PhysicsPhil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I thought this whole business was remarkably clever of the Canadian government. They managed to sidestep a messy showdown with Hollywood by outlawing something that isn't a problem. Seriously, our movie theatres are not giant igloos, and pirating movies on a camcorder hasn't been an issue for a decade or more (has it ever been?). These days pirated movies usually come from stolen or "borrowed" cinema masters.

    Given the choice between having Hollywood lobbying against something stupid, like a camcorder ban, or something more serious, like a DMCA equivalent, I'd much rather pacify them with the stupid stuff.

  9. well, now each theatre has at least 2 cops by 1800maxim · · Score: 5, Informative

    my friends went to the movies on Saturday, and guess what the police is hired to do? The police is hired to check everyone's bag as they enter the theatre to make sure there is no camcorder. That is the most idiotic thing that Canadian politicians did - cave in to a foreign country's lobbying group, at the expense that each teenager and older person has his or her bag examined.

    Greater lineups? You bet! However, it's not so much the lineups as the feeling that a little bit of dignity is robbed away from you.

  10. What are you...a communist?!? by Robber+Baron · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't you know that the most egregious and offensive crime you can commit is stealing (back) from the rich?

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