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Sony Threatens PS3 Hackers With Legal Action

Eurogamer reports that Sony is going after users sidestepping the PlayStation 3's protection software. Firmware 1.10 and 1.11 have both been cracked, and as a result illegal game copies can be booted from the console. "Booting games and playing them are two different things, however; so far, hackers have not been able to get any of the copied games to run, nor have they been able to run homebrew software. Every hardware launch brings with it a race for hackers to defeat the system's protections, whether for the technological challenge, to run copied software, or to allow for homebrew games. Despite Sony's attempts to prevent its emergence, the PSP has a strong homebrew community - and hackers are doubtless hoping to establish a similar base for PS3."

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  1. Obligatory by TheJerg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You can't stop them anyway. So why bother trying. Etc, etc.

    1. Re:Obligatory by cowscows · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While I'm not the hugest fan of these sorts of "protections", I think game consoles are one of the areas where the manufacturer can make a decent argument for why they bother. While they're never going to completely shut out the dedicated and skilled people trying to find their way in, they can keep a pretty good lid on casual piracy, because console cracks are usually just to much work, even if someone else has already figure it out.

      It's significantly different, from the average joe computer user point of view, than downloading mp3's or whatever. Once you have a cracked mp3, the file is easy to distribute and get at. Which is one of the reasons why music DRM is so dumb. The files are all pretty easily accessible online to anyone who wants to look at them. But with game consoles, downloading a game and putting it on a DVD generally isn't enough. You need to hack the console, sometimes through some software flaws, often through hardware modification. Even if the hardware mod is relatively easy, the need to crack the case is enough to keep most people out. If Napster required you to solder a chip onto your computer's motherboard in order to download music, it's doubtful anyone outside of tech nerds would've heard much about it.

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  2. Hack the Planet! by phildawg · · Score: 2, Funny

    As Cereal Killer would say, 'Hack the Planet'.

  3. Not just about preventing piracy by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They also want to prevent you from running Linux with full access to the hardware, because they won't get licensing fees if people play games that don't require that someone pay one. Preventing piracy [as much as possible] is of course a real goal, and important to protection of revenues. But this is just as significant, in the same ways.

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  4. Hackers beware!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sony reserves the sole right to hack your system. Please use one of their root-kits for your hacking needs. All others will be sued!!

    Get real Sony!!

  5. Re:Nintendo's better than that by brkello · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your citation is missing because you are wrong. Nintendo did not announce nor are they sponsoring a homebrew contest on the Wii. Other people are sponsoring this which is no different than if it happened on the PS3 or PSP. So no, Nintendo is not better than that.

    Ironically, it appears that you don't RTFA.

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  6. Re:And the oblig counter-point by brkello · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, region codes don't make sense to me either. I am trying to think of some reason they might do it...but I can't come up with any thing that makes it logical.

    But you have to understand, the people who install modchips on their consoles are far far more likely doing it to play pirated games than to avoid the region codes. I understand why they do that. And if they would just get rid of the region crap, you wouldn't be frustrated at all. Really, I am sure you aren't the person Sony was trying to target...it is the people who want to do bad things.

    But all this is moot to you if the PS3 doesn't have region encoding. And I am not sure if this is true now, but here is a past /. article: http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/23/ 0021243&from=rss. So it looks like you wouldn't have a problem with the PS3 if that is still true!

    Really, you have to be careful on slashdot or you turn in to the same type of sheeple. Everything Sony does isn't evil. Everything that Nintendo does isn't good. Everyone out there wants your money and some just pretend to be nicer than others.

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  7. Re:Nintendo's better than that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    Makes me glad my roommate bought one, although my arm hurts today.

    The Wii is a great console and all, but I don't know that I'd go quite that far to convince someone to let me use theirs. Have a little dignity.

  8. Here's an idea Sony by Kamokazi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe you should try spending the cash you are using on piracy prevention to develop...*gasp*...games worth buying?

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  9. You know. by Pojut · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is where things get fucking stupid. Why homebrew applications are not ENCOURAGED is beyond me. Granted, it's not a massive number, but I would be willing to bet my car that if the big three made their consoles open to homebrew developers without any kind of sidestepping, hacking, or putzing around required, they would find the sales of their gaming consoles go up. Yes, there will be people that pirate games, but you know what? The people that want to pirate games WILL find a way. I am quite confident that people wouldn't say "What? Homebrew apps are ENCOURAGED? Well fuck that, I'm not buying that open system!" ::sigh::

    1. Re:You know. by Sparr0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or they could just sell their console for a profit, so they don't have to rely on licensing.

  10. Re:Region games by Panzergheist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, it is still true that PS3 games have no region encoding. The PS3 will honor the region encoding of DVDs, PS2 and PS1 games, and Blu-Ray movies. But no, there is no region encoding for PS3 games.

    I really don't see a legitimate reason for trying to hack the PS3. If you want home brew apps, install Linux on it. If you want that game from Japan that you can't get in your own country, buy it and place the disk in the drive. Apart from hacking it just for bragging rights, or to play pirated games, there really isn't a good excuse to bypass the protections on the PS3.

  11. Re:Nintendo's better than that by OmegaBlac · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nintendo recently announced (citation missing) a homebrew contest on the Wii.
    Wrong. Read again: http://wii-news.dcemu.co.uk/nintendo-wii-amp-gamec ube-coders-contest-2007-65730.html

    Makes me glad my roommate bought one, although my arm hurts today...
    Another night of furious jerking of your "Wii" to images of Princess Toadstool? :)
  12. Re:And the oblig counter-point by Saige · · Score: 3, Informative

    Region codes on games serve _no_ legitimate purpose.

    I have to disagree with you here.

    Region codes on games have purposes. Games sometimes have licensed content - and the costs of licensing that content can very depending on where the game will be distributed. It may be cheaper to license that music track for US audiences only, or the company they licensed the content from may themselves have the rights to the content for only certain countries. Japanese DDR games are a prime example - they're region coded because they've licensed the content for Japan only.

    There are probably games that region code when they don't serve a purpose, but I'd like to believe that this is minimal because doing so can only hurt profits. I suspect that most game region coding is there for a reason.

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  13. 17 USC 602 by tepples · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Even just buying an original DVD from Japan to play on your imported PS2 counts as piracy for Sony, or at least they'll try to handwave it as such. See Title 17, United States Code, section 602, which bans importing more than one copy of a game. This means that imported handheld games and those imported console games that lack split-screen mode have no multiplayer.

    The excuse on movie DVDs was that it eats into theatre ticket sales: someone who bought the US DVD early has often seen the movie that way before it even gets into the theatres. And because some movies are based on underlying works, and copyrights on these underlying works expire at different times in different countries. For instance, Peter and Wendy and other pre-1923 works in the Peter Pan universe are public domain in the United States, but they are copyrighted in the European Union until the end of this year, and they are copyrighted in the United Kingdom until Great Ormond Street Hospital goes out of business. In this case, region 2 DVDs would be subject to a royalty payable to GOSH, but region 2 DVDs would not.

    OK, I can even live with that mercantile reason. But that just simply doesn't apply to games. There simply is no big-screen theatre version of, say, Gran Turismo. At one time, the video game industry's counterpart to theatrical release was arcade release. In the case of Street Fighter II and its clones, this was true for a long time.

    Sony got my money fair and square there.

    But Sony Computer Entertainment America stole your money from Sony Computer Entertainment Europe.

    Still, PSP and PS3 are largely region-free for gaming.

  14. Re:And the oblig counter-point by bombshelter13 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This should affect retailers, not consumers. The liscencing is an issue, and as such it should be illegal for a retailer to either sell the game from an outlet outside the one it's region coded for, or to ship it from a location in the region to a consumer outside. What it shouldn't affect is a consumer physically travelling to the region in which the product is legal for sale, purchasing it, and bringing it back home with them. That's just ridiculous.

  15. Re:RSX lockout, PS2 lockout, PS1 lockout by Panzergheist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How do I access the extra 256 MiB of RAM in the RSX chip from Linux, even if only to use it as a RAM disk for a swap file? How do I access the RSX blitter, even if only to speed up 2D operations in X?

    Even though your question is a moot point in this case, I will address it. In short, you cannot access the RSX directly. But here is why your question in this case is moot: The hack doesn't affect hyper visor functionality under Linux. It bypasses the copy-protection on the PS3. That is all it does and was designed to do.

    To answer your second question, you can convince any publisher as long as you show them enough money.

    In all seriousness, why don't you ask Sony on their new blog to allow region free gaming on ALL PlayStation games? Given their current need to win over the hearts and minds of gamers, if enough demand was shown on their new site I would be surprised if they didn't decide to implement it. The issue with the RSX chip is, unfortunately, in a sticky patent situation beyond the complete control of Sony or nVidia. The best bet there would be nVidia releasing a closed Linux driver for the RSX.

  16. Re:Sony's Linux strategy by CronoCloud · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sony doesn't care what you do on your PS2/PS3 as long as you do it under Linux (and under the restrictions Linux on the PS2/PS3 has). That's the sandbox you get to play in.

    Trying to do stuff outside of that, they don't like. That's the sort of thing that enables the running of "backups".

    Running Nethack under Linux: OK
    Running Nethack via a hack/exploit that also lets one run ISO/backups etc. Not OK.

  17. Re:Nintendo's better than that by antime · · Score: 2, Informative

    By indie developers they mean people like Introversion, not hobbyists. You will still have to be a real company with real money to get a developer license.

  18. Has Sony lost their minds??? by sunsfan1991 · · Score: 3, Funny

    So nobody is buying you $600 console what do you do? 1) Lower your price 2) Make games people want to pay that much to play 3) Sue the few people who bought your overpriced console