Slashdot Mirror


Perfect Silicon Sphere to Redefine the Kilogram

MrCreosote writes "The Age reports optical specialists at CSIRO are helping create a new standard for the kilogram, based on a precise number of atoms in a perfect sphere of silicon. This will replace the International Prototype, a lump of metal alloy in a vault in Paris."

12 of 453 comments (clear)

  1. What's it useful for? by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Except for the challenges of making one, what's it useful for? You can't use it to calibrate anything, the wear and tear caused by the friction of handling would eventually change it's mass and defy it's purpose. Is the actual "finished product" good for anything else than sitting in another vault somewhere?

    --
    .: Max Romantschuk :: http://max.romantschuk.fi/
    1. Re:What's it useful for? by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Except for the challenges of making one, what's it useful for? You can't use it to calibrate anything, the wear and tear caused by the friction of handling would eventually change it's mass and defy it's purpose.

      It's hierarchical. You use the standard kilogram to calibrate other, slightly less exalted standard kilograms. So the one kept in London and the one in New York and the one in Tokyo get calibrated against the one in Paris. Then you calibrate actual working weights against those.

      --
      Real Daleks don't climb stairs - they level the building.
    2. Re:What's it useful for? by jabuzz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's extremely unlikely that the spehere has a mass of exactly one kilogram. What you do is assign a mass to an individual Si atom, and count the number of atoms in the sphere. You then have a mass for that sphere. The more accurately you can count the atoms the more accurate the mass assigned to the sphere.

      The idea behind this is that rather than having a absolute reference mass in a vault in Paris, we can create new reference masses at will, so we can have additional ones in London, one in New York, one in Tokyo etc. with no need to refer them back to the one in Paris.

      The fact the reference SI spheres all have slightly different masses is not important. As long as we know exactly what the mass of each sphere is, then it can be used to calibrate other secondary masses, which can in turn be used to calibrate/produce tertiary masses.

    3. Re:What's it useful for? by 22mcdaniel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think the kilogram is the last unit of measurement that hasn't been defined in terms of fundamental physics phenomena.
      Most definitions depend on the (hopefully) invariant properties of nature and are removed from effects of man. Nobody can drop the definition of the meter stick; its definition cannot be changed by war, by incorrect handling, by temperature, by location, by time. The definition of the meter is the same whether you are on mars or earth.
      I remember reading some time ago that people are worried that the mass of the kilogram is changing. Diffusion of atoms into and away from its surface and even its infrequent handling may change its mass. The precision of the kilogram is limited by these uncertainties.
      To recap:
      meter - Length that the speed of light travels in 1/299,792,458th of a second.
      second - Duration of 9,192,631,770 transitions between two hyperfine levels of a cesium 133 atom.
      kilogram - Weight of a chunk of metal in a jar.

  2. Re:alternate theories by jmv · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I personally wouldn't put too much trust into a measurement that depends on gravitational acceleration for several reasons.
    1) It means you can't move the setup somewhere else easily because gravity is location-dependent
    2) Events like the 2004 tsunami has a slight (but measurable) effect on the Earth's rotation and hence on the acceleration (because of centrifugal force) ... and most importantly
    3) Your measurement will (*literally*) depend on the phase of the moon (just like tides)

  3. Re:Okay geeks... by richard.cs · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Work it out if you really want to know but it's not a problem, even if pi were needed to make the sphere which it isn't. I remember readong somewhere a while ago (it may have been on slashdot, may have been somewhere else) that 34 decimal places of pi are sufficient to calculate the radius of the uiverse to within the width of a hydrogen atom.

    It's fairly easy to prove that this is roughly correct if you look up the the two sizes. Compare the orders of magnitude.

  4. Re:"perfect" sphere by Alchemar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The real purpose of the project is to produce a reproducable standard. If something was to happen to the lump of metal that currently defines a kilogram, there is no reliable way to reproduce it. You can make another lump of metal and weigh it, but even the most precise scale we have been calibrated back to the original lump of metal plus or minus the error of the machine. The problem is that the errors are cumulative. If we have to replace the lump of metal several times, it will be less and less precise. If however we can base the weight on a physical constant, then we can use that physical constant to calibrate future scales on. There will be errors based on the precision of the machine, but they are no longer cumulative. If you build a more precise machine, you get a more precise measurement.

  5. Re:"perfect" sphere by BMazurek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember a small magazine (called Science Digest, IIRC) I read in the mid 80's. It was short little science articles, probably a couple hundred words each (at most)...not unlike RSS feeds today, perhaps.

    One article was about scientists making the most perfect sphere to date out of some crystal. It was measured to be so perfectly round that if you scaled it up to the size of the earth, it's highest peak would be 12 feet higher than it's lowest point.

    I'm sure the technology for this thing has improved a lot in 20 years.

  6. Too complicated! by Muad'Dave · · Score: 2, Interesting
    We've got a precise definition of the second:

    the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium-133 atom.
    and the meter:

    the distance traveled by light in absolute vacuum in 1/299,792,458 of a second
    Why not tie the kg to the second and meter via the Newton? 1 Newton is defined as 1 kg * m * s^-2. Using centripetal force in a plane normal to the earth's gravitational field eliminates gravity from the equation.
    --
    Tiller's Rule: Never use a word in written form that you've only heard and never read. You will end up looking foolish.
  7. Re: Using the Sphere of One-ness by Migraineman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Worse - you can't touch the Sphere of One-ness with anything.

    Q: May I put my greasy paws on it?
    A: No. Fingerprints will alter the mass in a measureable way.

    Q: White gloves?
    A: Abrasive.

    Q: Use a special cradle that's machined to exactly the same radius profile such that you won't scratch or deform the Sphere of One-ness?
    A: Nope. That'll result in a molecular interference fit. You'll never get the two pieces apart.

    So ultimately, they're building a very precise bauble that no one will ever be allowed to touch. I suspect that bouncing photons off the surface may displace an atom or two, so they'll keep it in a dark room ... in a vacuum chamber ... at the bottom of a flight of stairs, in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door reading "prendre garde du léopard."

  8. Re:isotopes by Tom+Womack · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The 'special crystal which took three years to grow in Russia' that the article writes about is made of pure silicon-28 precisely to get around this objection.

    I think the concern is that samples of silicon from different sources (consider, for example, 'depleted silicon' from the scrapyard of the Russian isotope-enrichment facility) might have different isotope distributions at the 10^-7 level, whilst good laser enrichment can ensure a really very constant isotope distribution.

  9. Where's the photographer? by TropicalCoder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The picture shows a beautiful shot of the perfect silicon sphere. Out of curiosity, I looked very closly at the scene reflected by it's surface, thinking perhaps I might get a glimpse of the photographer. However, he was nowhere to be seen.

    Then I got to thinking - it should be easy to reconstruct the scene that is portrayed in the reflection from the surface of the sphere. All that is needed is to cut out the image of the silicon sphere and paste onto the surface of a three dimensional sphere. Then we could rotate it this way and that and look around the scientist's lab. So I did this - using a software simulation. I cut out the silicon sphere from the article's photo, and used it as a texture on a spherical 3D mesh, and added a little code to rotate it back and forth so that I could look around the scientist's lab. Guess what - there is no sign of the photographer! What we see is a very messy lab, with a closed door on the right. There are florescent fixtures on the ceiling that are currently turned off. There is a large window at the end of the room. I do believe that the ceiling, though it meets the left wall at the usual 90 degree angle, curves down to the wall at the right - a very unusual space, as if it was crammed into to an attic. At the extreme right of the room I believe we see a curtain hastily thrown over whatever would have been on the right side of the view. If the photographer is in the room, as he must be, I think he must be kneeling to the left of the window about three-quarters of the way back, and using a telephoto lens.

    I have made available the exe that I created on my web site so that you may take a look for yourself. The code is a hasty adaptation of Microsoft's DX3D mesh tutorial "Tut_06Meshes" from the DxSDK 9.0, which is also included. You can get the zip package here. Perhaps you could modify the code to produce an even better view, but unfortunately, the resolution of the original image is really too low to get much out of it. It was a lot of fun doing this, and if you come up with a better result than me I would like to hear from you.