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Identity Thief Apprehended By Victim

ewhac writes "Karen Lodrick was entering her sixth month of hell dealing with the repercussions of having her identity stolen and used to loot her accounts. But while she was waiting for a beverage, there standing in line was the woman who appeared on Wells Fargo security video emptying her accounts. What followed was a 45 minute chase through San Francisco streets that ended with the thief being taken into custody by police."

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  1. Lucky it was the police by computational+super · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Lucky for the identity thief they ended up in the police station and not the morgue. If you were on the jury and the victim had beaten the thief to death... would you convict? I'm not sure I would.

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    1. Re:Lucky it was the police by thegnu · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If you were on the jury and the victim had beaten the thief to death... would you convict? I'm not sure I would.
      No shit. It reminds me of this case where a little girl (like 12 or 14) got raped in a remote area where most people have rifles, and her grandmother went and shot the guy. I'm not sure she even got arrested. I definitely think that grannies are the only people who get to be vigilantes.

      Plus, if someone fucks up your life. Although, this was not really vigilanteism, since she didn't kill anybody. But god, that must feel good in this society of ever-abstracting forms of validation. Very straightforward: Fuck with Og, Og crush.

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    2. Re:Lucky it was the police by Joe+U · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If only we had some kind of system... something to do with a series of rules, we could call them, um, "laws". And some kind of "legal" system. Then we could set up punishments for violations of these "laws".

      Great dream. I call it a civilized society.

    3. Re:Lucky it was the police by BeanThere · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Even if you could rehabilitate the shitbags, why should we? So now not only do we get to be victims of scumbags, we now also must be obligated to spend our own time and money "fixing" them? I've got an idea, why don't they just not commit crimes in the first place? We don't owe them anything. Anyway, you statistically cannot rehabilitate 100% of criminals, so by rehabilitating, you have a 100% chance that you are in effect purposely releasing offenders to later commit more crimes. In other words, if you "rehabilitate" and release, say, 1000 murderers, and on average say 5% will re-offend, you are basically KNOWINGLY causing another 20 avoidable murders of innocent people by knowingly releasing killers onto the streets. WTF? How did such craziness arise in our society?

      The only valid reason to perhaps not get rid of criminals is that statistically you're going to nail some innocents; you often just can't prove who committed a crime for sure.

  2. Feh. by jpellino · · Score: 4, Interesting

    With a little bit of digging, I got the name, address and phone of two of the people who got to use my debit card three years ago. One bought a Nextel cell phone, the other paid their Progressive insurance bill. I called Progressive and escalated this, and asked them what they were going to do. The answer? "I guess next time she'll have to pay cash."

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    1. Re:Feh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yep. This is the worst part of the feel-good story -- the end. So after all of this, the unrepentant thief gets ... time served + probation? The fact that she was already on probation for fraud when she started her crime spree is like an EXTRA slap in the face. She could've walked out of that courtroom and done exactly the same thing, to the original victim, or someone else.

      I thought the point of probation was that if you committed a crime during your probation, you went to jail. No? Then what's the point? We hear about jail sentences for people who are too stupid to close up porn popups, but someone who flagrantly breaks the law, and willfully causes real financial and emotional harm to another person while on probation for (probably?) doing the same thing before, gets probation?

      It doesn't make sense. I guess the stereotypes of California being an overly liberal state must be true. The Daily Show said it best when they said that the lesson from the high profile murder acquittals was that if you're going to commit murder, make sure you do it in California.

  3. I had a similar experience by benhocking · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Someone had used my credit card number to buy a cell phone. When I saw the charge on my CC statement, I called the cell phone company (can't remember which one it was anymore) and asked what address it went to. Even though they paid for it with my credit card, they said they weren't allowed to provide me with any information. I called my credit card company, got a new card, and told them what I knew. Since the money came out of their pocket and not mine, I assume they didn't quit that easily.

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    1. Re:I had a similar experience by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Even though they paid for it with my credit card, they said they weren't allowed to provide me with any information.

      Heh, you gotta love the resistance some businesses have to logic. I was in a sort of similar situation (though luckily not as severe) with Amazon. Someone used Amazon's "recommend a book to a friend" feature (probably patented) to make an ominous, personal threat to me. I reported this and asked for the sender's information, and was told that they couldn't reveal that information because it's private.

      Yes, that's right: Amazon seriously believed that giving out the names of people who made threats to their "friends" using the "recommend a book" feature, somehow compromised the integrity of the system.

      Eventually, once the Indians passed it up through a few levels of supervisors they relented though.

    2. Re:I had a similar experience by j79zlr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've been through a similar experience. The reason I was given why they can't release that information is because they [the company the purchase was made from] would be liable if you found the thief and assaulted him/her or worse. Makes as much sense as anything else.

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    3. Re:I had a similar experience by Ephemeriis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The problem though, is that even if they do check the signature it's still no garontee that you're the right person. Maybe you're in a hurry, or having a bad day, or your arm is in a cast...so the signature doesn't look right...do they refuse to take the card? What if someone spends a couple hours studying the signature on the back of the card and comes up with a passable forgery...now it matches...what good does checking the signature do you then?

      There were (still are?) credit cards with your photograph on them... Sounds like a good idea, but I doubt if it actually added any security. I doubt if your average overworked retail sales clerk really takes the time to check the photo.

      What we really need is a credit card system that requires you to enter some kind of a PIN. Similar to what the debit cards use. Don't leave it up to the clerk to visually compare anything...make the customer punch in the PIN and have the computers verify it. Certainly wouldn't be foolproof...but it'd be better than the signatures we have now.

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  4. A related story by rfc1394 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This woman was in a department store and was purchasing something. As she approached the counter, she handed the clerk her credit card. The clerk went to use the machine but it apparently wasn't working, so she had to use a phone to call in the card. A short time later, a security guard came over and grabbed the customer. The cashier had actually called in a code to have the guard come by. The clerk said that she realized the woman was committing identity theft.

    The astonished customer couldn't believe it, and asked the cashier how on earth she knew. She said, "Because that's my name on the card, and that's my credit card that had been stolen."

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  5. Thanks Congress - you suck. by RoboOp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While real problems and challenges like privacy and identity theft go ignored, they waste their time on crap like "National milk drinking day" and raising funds so they can leave more problems unsolved.

    We are in the midst of an identity fraud crime wave, made possible by more intrusive technology and fewer regulations that limit the sharing of that information. There is a limit to the solutions that the individual can do - it can only be accomplished on a national level. Unfortunately, there is no leadership of any sort at the national level in the US. The head of the fish has completely rotted away.

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  6. Please mod up by Reverberant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    and yet the penalty for stealing tens of thousands through identity theft, and running the victims through months of hell - is probation?

    We as a society really have our priorities out of whack. DUI? Home confinement in your mansion (no, I'm not linking to the stories about you-know-who). One teenager has consensual sex with another teenager? Throw him in jail for 10 years.

    Steal someones identity, multiple times, costing the victims thousands of dollars in cash and lost time? Probation. Hell, I got people in my city getting probation for serious gun crimes. WTF?

  7. Wells Fargo.... shocking! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Wells Fargo doesn't give a damn about fraud. A few years ago I noticed a charge for under 10 bucks to a business in Tijuana. I called WF. They told me not to worry about it since it was still a pending charge because someone "probably just entered one of the digits on the card wrong." (yes, i know all about checksums...) Not satisfied, I called back and spoke with someone else. In all, three different WF employees told me not to worry about it.

    A week later, it was a firm charge, no longer pending. I called back. Explained what happened again. They transferred me to a bilingual account specialist because the fraud happened in Mexico, yet I've never been there, don't speak Spanish, and I live 2,000 miles away. "They told you not to worry about it?!?!!"

    Instead of issuing me a new card like they said they would, all they did was vow to block all activity to my account from the one place that it had been abused with. No new card. And they never made a fraud report because "it was only 10 bucks." Uh, someone has my card details and you're not going to do anything.

    WF wasn't pleased when I closed my accounts the next day.

  8. Re:getting off scott free... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Amount to be determined"? How about ALL OF IT?

    That would be funny if it weren't so personally painful. If I were still on Paxil it would make a good Paxil Diary (actually I wrote it up but haven't yet put it online anywhere). I had my car (mint condition 2002 $10K) that I hadn't even made one payment on yet, my debit card, and checks stolen last fall. I knew the theif; she apparently had watched me punch in my PIN number at an ATM at a bar where she picked dumbass nerd me up to take home. No, I am NOT good with women...

    Any way, making a long story short she wrote $200 worth of obviously forged checks and withdrew $450 from the ATM. The down payment for the car bounced costing me another $400 fees, plus I don't know how many other fees from other bounced checks; my account was $650 shorter than I thought it was. The bank only reimbursed me for the checks, saying if she had the PIN I must have given her permission to use it!

    After stealing the car she traded it for crack cocaine, and the woman she traded the car to used it to try and kill her parents with, breaking both of her mother's legs. Her father broke out the driver window with a baseball bat (almost another $200 to fix that). The damage to the car was estimated at almost $3500, and with a $1000 deductable, all the dents, dings, scratches, etc. are still there. The woman who traded crack for my car was arrested for attempted murder, the last I heard from the State's Attorney they would ask the judge for restitution but the woman was in a nuthouse unfit for trial.

    The girl's parents' insurance company tried to collect from my insurance company!

    The woman who originally stole the car, debit, and checks had the gall to call me from a drug rehab center and beg me to not press charges.

    You guys thought my life was wild back in the Paxil Diary days...

    -mcgrew

  9. All the gun comments are fun.... by Snowtide · · Score: 4, Interesting
    But think it though a second.

    The identity theft victim pulls a gun and tells the thief to freeze. The thief screams for help and that the woman holding the gun is trying to kill her. The identity theft victim explains that the woman she has at gunpoint is a thief. The thief says the identity theft victim is crazy and has the wrong person. Another well meaning hero to be pulls their gun and points it at the obviously angry woman with a gun telling her to calm down. Person number three pulls their gun and picks a side or generally points it at the other two people with guns in the coffee shop and tells them all to calm down. Everyone with a gun is convinced they are doing the right thing.
    Ask a working police officer, this is a good way to get people shot and or killed.

    Seriously, look at how people drive cars, and you want to give them concealed weapons permits to have guns on them all the time?