Venezula Producing Its Own Linux PCs

christian.einfeldt writes "The Venezuelan Government announced the roll-out of four different models of Linux-powered consumer computers, three desktop models and one notebook. Branded 'Bolivarian Computers,' they will be will be produced by a joint venture of the Venezuelan Ministry of Light Industry and Commerce and a Chinese company named Lang Chao. The goal of the project is to jump-start a domestic IT industry and become an IT exporter to the rest of Latin America. At the ceremony introducing the program, Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez claimed that the Bolivarian Computers cost 40% less than other commercially available models and come with a 3-year warranty."

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Re:As much as I hate Chavez...

[Espectr0]

Venezuelan here...

Another "good" thing he is doing. 53 million lightbulbs have been replaced to fluorescent versions. An agreement with Vietnam was reached to start manufacturing the philips lightbulbs here. Vehicles will be able to run on natural gas soon, and the conversion will be free to users. They are testing solar panel use.

I hate the guy, but i want those programs to succeed.

All the irrational replies explained

[Space Coyote]

Here: Chavez Hatred Explained to Americans.

Re:All the irrational replies explained

[Anonymous Coward]

Central planning failed everywhere? Singapore? Nordic countries?

Eh? Read up a few things. If you're calling Singapore a planned economy, that is rather daring, to say the least. And scandinavians would simply shake their heads about such an assertion. Don't mix up high levels of government expenditure as percent of GDP with the absence of market economy (background).

Re:As much as I hate Chavez...

[fermion]

The thing about personal freedom is life, liberty and the opportunity to peruse profit. Certainly, for what I have seen, the later is the missing part of the equation in south america, while the other two items are increasingly missing in a large part of north america. The ability to travel freely, to read what one wants to read, to engage in legal acts without being harassed are quickly falling to a populous that is more fearful of microrisk than concerned about macroliberties.

OTOH, as I have seen time and time again, acess to technology increases ones ability to persue profit, i.e. happiness. The ability to use machines, and thus improve personal productivity, is the greatest asset one can have. The problem is that in many parts of the wold capital to acquire such technolgy is limit. There are no credit cards, or banks loans, or anything. Therefore anything that can be done to reduce the costs of technology to the point that an individual can purchase said technology from existing liquid assets means that the technolgy will not be just a toy for the rich, but a mover for the masses.

And this is the reform that many in south america are trying to make. Many countries in south america are at the place where the US is moving toward. Money concentrated at the few, gated communities, aggressive police presence, inadequate medical service. It may be that 10% of the people in Venezuela controls 50% of the capital,which and 40% live in poverty. Just like in the US, if you can train a person to catch fish, and not just give him a fish, and also make the fishing pole affordable, then we can begin to help people pull themselves up by their own bootstraps without the dole. If a computer costs $200 instead of $400, then more people can save that over a year.

Of course, US officials who have been on the dole and the take for their entire lives find this very scary, as the United States interests are going to be threatened by an educated and technical savvy population. Of course, if the US were not so afraid of an educated and technical savvy population, perhaps we would not have the trade deficit from which we currently suffer.

Re:Full featured linux distros

[Rei]

You mean like being able to legislate by decree

  * You mean like using a power that every other president in Venezuela has used?
  * You mean where "decree" is in an incredibly limited scope, a fact rarely reported by the media?
  * You mean where any act he legislates, no matter the method, can be rescinded by the popular vote?
  * You mean where normal laws take 10% of the population to rescind, decree laws take only 5%?
  * You mean where the legislature can rescind or modify said decrees -- quite unlike the US "Fast Track" legislation?"\

Nah, let's demonize Chavez and distort the facts!

shutting down opposition TV stations

  * You mean TV stations that helped organize a bloody coup against him?
  * You mean TV stations that even most of their backers admit broke the law?

Nah, let's just demonize Chavez and distort the facts!

unchecked inflation

  * You mean an inflation rate that was 31.2% in '03, 31.1% in '04, 22.4% in '05, 16% in '06, and 15.8% in '07?

It's high, but it's dropping, not rising. Despite the best efforts of the opposition to destroy the economy.

But nah, let's demonize Chavez!

or doubling the murder rate?

  * With 11,000 murders in 2003 and a population of 26.2 million, that's 42 per 100,000, compared to their US-loving neighbor Colombia's 63-84 per 100k and Washington DC's ~50 per 100k.

Bad numbers, and certainly worse than it was before. But, sadly, that's Latin America for you.

They are certainly achievements. But if I were him, I would rather be remembered as a Bush basher than the rest.

I'll note what you *didn't* mention, like the percentage of those without healthcare, or the illiteracy rate. Or like having to do this stuff with an opposition that wants to wreck the economy and once overthrew him in a coup, and the US who would like to do both of those as well.