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Venezula Producing Its Own Linux PCs
christian.einfeldt writes "The Venezuelan Government announced the roll-out of four different models of Linux-powered consumer computers, three desktop models and one notebook. Branded 'Bolivarian Computers,' they will be will be produced by a joint venture of the Venezuelan Ministry of Light Industry and Commerce and a Chinese company named Lang Chao. The goal of the project is to jump-start a domestic IT industry and become an IT exporter to the rest of Latin America. At the ceremony introducing the program, Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez claimed that the Bolivarian Computers cost 40% less than other commercially available models and come with a 3-year warranty."
All Bolivarian computers come fully equipped with a wide selection of inflammatory anti-Bush screensavers
It's sad how Chavez will be remembered around the world for the one thing he's been consistently right about, rather than an honest critical assessment of his achievements and methods. Hell, even Saddam Hussein, who used to be reviled throughout the Arab world, managed to resuscitate his historical legacy a bit through his opposition to Bush. Apparently if you oppose the biggest threat to peace and democracy in the world loudly enough, everyone forgets you're a slightly smaller threat yourself.
Venezuelan here...
Another "good" thing he is doing. 53 million lightbulbs have been replaced to fluorescent versions. An agreement with Vietnam was reached to start manufacturing the philips lightbulbs here. Vehicles will be able to run on natural gas soon, and the conversion will be free to users. They are testing solar panel use.
I hate the guy, but i want those programs to succeed.
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Venezuela is in South America but where is Venezula?
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Exactly the point of the original post. His anti-Bush rhetoric is whitewashing his other policies, making him seem like a good guy when he's not.
Although one of those TV stations provided material assistance to the anti-democracy coup, so they got off easy by losing their license to broadcast. Other countries deal with treason more harshly.
I am not surprised at the quantity of anti-Chavez invective from the republi-trolls that seem to infest slashdot now. Regurgitating US propaganda as fact.
/free education.
One or two points.
Venezuela is a Democracy. They have elections every so often so the people get to decide who gets to run the place. They have decided that they prefer Chavez to the alternatives.
Chavez was democratically elected. And re-elected. Something like 60% of the populace want him as leader rather than the traditional oligarchies that used to run the place for their own benefit. They of course hate him for this. Almost all of the media in Venezeula are owned by the wealthy elite.
Chavez is not a communist. He is a socialist. There is a huge difference.
His socialist view is that *all* of the people of Venezuela should have affordable healthcare, at very low cost, if not free.
His socialist view is that *all* of the people should have low cost
Ditto with affordable decent housing for all.
And he is well on the way to achieving these aims.
His policies are meant to benefit the whole country, and not just the wealthy elite oligarchies.
So yes, Washington hates this, and him as a result.
Washington is having conniptions with this because I suspect they are frightened that the rest of the world might look at this socialist, benefit the maximum number of the population thing, and think "Hey, maybe there is something in this." Affordable healthcare for all? Affordable Education for all? Affordable Housing for all? Why haven't we got this?
This is why they have tried to back a coup to remove him from power, Against the democratically expressed wishes of majority of the country.
So, for trying to raise the standard of living of the population, he is automatically reviled and vilified. All this crap about spyware installed by the government on Linux, anti-Bush screensavers and the like is ignorant spite.
And one commenter compared him to Satan?
More than one "hate his guts".
I would be interested to know why exactly.
For those with an enquiring mind, there is a good book called "Pirates of the Caribbean: Axis of Hope" by Tariq Ali. It is about Chavez in Venezuela, Castro in Cuba and Morales in Bolivia. ISBN 978-1-84467-102-1. Published by Verso 2006. Read it and you may learn something.
Sigh. Bye bye karma.
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You mean like being able to legislate by decree
* You mean like using a power that every other president in Venezuela has used?
* You mean where "decree" is in an incredibly limited scope, a fact rarely reported by the media?
* You mean where any act he legislates, no matter the method, can be rescinded by the popular vote?
* You mean where normal laws take 10% of the population to rescind, decree laws take only 5%?
* You mean where the legislature can rescind or modify said decrees -- quite unlike the US "Fast Track" legislation?"\
Nah, let's demonize Chavez and distort the facts!
shutting down opposition TV stations
* You mean TV stations that helped organize a bloody coup against him?
* You mean TV stations that even most of their backers admit broke the law?
Nah, let's just demonize Chavez and distort the facts!
unchecked inflation
* You mean an inflation rate that was 31.2% in '03, 31.1% in '04, 22.4% in '05, 16% in '06, and 15.8% in '07?
It's high, but it's dropping, not rising. Despite the best efforts of the opposition to destroy the economy.
But nah, let's demonize Chavez!
or doubling the murder rate?
* With 11,000 murders in 2003 and a population of 26.2 million, that's 42 per 100,000, compared to their US-loving neighbor Colombia's 63-84 per 100k and Washington DC's ~50 per 100k.
Bad numbers, and certainly worse than it was before. But, sadly, that's Latin America for you.
They are certainly achievements. But if I were him, I would rather be remembered as a Bush basher than the rest.
I'll note what you *didn't* mention, like the percentage of those without healthcare, or the illiteracy rate. Or like having to do this stuff with an opposition that wants to wreck the economy and once overthrew him in a coup, and the US who would like to do both of those as well.
Everybody point at the libertarian and laugh.
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Five times. During specific crises.
* You mean where "decree" is in an incredibly limited scope, a fact rarely reported by the media?
Limited? This is the broadest use of the decree power ever granted. "This law applies to eleven key sectors including the economy, the central bank, telecommunications, food security and energy security." Previous uses of this power focused narrowly on single subjects.
* You mean where any act he legislates, no matter the method, can be rescinded by the popular vote? * You mean where normal laws take 10% of the population to rescind, decree laws take only 5%?
Those 5 and 10 percent numbers are for percentages of registered voters to request a referendum on that particular decree. Once that hurdle is passed, fifty percent is the target number. The killer, though, is the provision that 40% of registered voters must vote or the referendum is invalid. Venezuela has had the most ambitious voter registration campaign in the Americas the past several years. When looking at historical voting percentages, this means that repeal of any decree is highly unlikely.
* You mean where the legislature can rescind or modify said decrees -- quite unlike the US "Fast Track" legislation?"
What? Congress gets a yes/no vote on a treaty with no ability to make changes. Very narrow scope. I would not expect the Venezuelan legislature to modify anything. Something about one hundred percent Chavez supporters in the legislature makes that quite unlikely. Makes it even stranger that he would need decree powers in such a situation.
* You mean TV stations that helped organize a bloody coup against him? * You mean TV stations that even most of their backers admit broke the law?
Helped organize? The worst accusations I have heard were more in the range of lent support to. Even that has been denied by the station personel. *shrug* I have no firsthand information, but every single media watch group in the world that I have come across has opposed this shutdown. I am more likely to put my faith in them, than the claims of Chavez and his government.
Same with the world's democracy watchgroups. Downgrading Venezuela's status under Chavez. Same with economic organizations. Downgrading Venezuela's status under Chavez. Same with human rights organizations. Downgrading Venezuela's status under Chavez.
But nah, let's demonize Chavez!
But nah, let's canonize Chavez! There are postitive and negative numbers in abundance for pro and anti Chavez folk to argue from here to eternity. What do you think of his long term future? Right now record oil prices are keeping his head above water. If those ever slack off, his happy ride with the people is going to get rough.
and once overthrew him in a coup,
I wouldn't play up coups as being justification for his actions. People might start to remember that Chavez was a coup leader himself back in the nineties -- one considerably more bloody than the one he survived. I believe the only dead in this coup were anti Chavez protesters shot down in the streets a couple days before the coup attempt.
Socialism CANNOT be allowed to be a successful sociopolitical system because it would represent a threat to the profit-making machinery of plutocratic market capitalism. The uber-wealthy folks LIKE being able to game the system for profit. While America's economy is growing and corproate profits are at record highs, the middle class is evaporating and life for the poor is fast heading into the toilet - crappy healthcare, crappy education, and on and on.
Now if someone ever actually manages to prove that there's a better way to do things, well, it could all turn very ugly for guys like Dubya. They can't vilify countries full of successful white people - like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, etc - where socialism really works. But a country full of poor brown people is an easy target for their brand of rhetoric.
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