Expectation of Privacy Extended to Email
An anonymous reader writes "In a 6th circuit court decision [PDF] today 4th amendment expectation of privacy rights were extended to email. 'The ruling by the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Ohio upholds a lower court ruling that placed a temporary injunction on e-mail searches in a fraud investigation against Steven Warshak, who runs a supplements company best known for a male enhancement product called Enzyte. Warshak hawks Enzyte using "Smiling Bob" ads that have gained some notoriety.'"
I agree wholeheartedly with the court's findings -- people have an expectation of privacy when sending (hardcopy) written correspondence, and it makes sense to extend that privelege to the digital realm as well.
It's just a shame that the right decision comes down on the side of the spammer.
Now we don't have to encrypt our emails!
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While this does not deal specifically with the patriot act, this will hopefully help set a precedent that a lot of the rights we "gave up" with respect to wiretapping in the patriot act will not be tolerated.
Well, back to rejecting software patent applications.
Boy, I'm glad that's settled. Now I can get back to livin' free and steppin' easy.
Unlikely. Slashdot comments are public by design. Webmail is simply an interface to otherwise regular email message, which this covers under the logic they are intended for an identified recipient and provided to other intermediaries on the way for delivery, much like traditional mail.
"In a 6th circuit court decision [PDF] today 4th amendment expectation of privacy rights were extended to email."
Finally, we are getting some rights restored/extended rather than taken/curtailed.
Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever.
Did similar past decisions regarding public phones and postal mail compel telecoms and the USPS to encrpyt all telephone transmissions and letters?
The wikipedia article on Enzyte falls under the category: sex stubs :)
You can't talk about Wikipedia's flaws on Wikipedia
Be careful: under some circumstances, threatening to assassinate someone is a crime in and of itself, even if you don't intend to carry it out.
Even more so, any password-protected account should give an expectation of privacy. The only people seeing those things should be you, and whoever you've got the account with, for their own purposes only and they shouldn't give access to anyone else.
That's the whole point of passwords! I'd say that's a pretty straightforward expectation.
i'd hit it so hard, if you pulled me out you'd be the king of britain [bash.org]
Yet the courts took 20 years to figure this out. People seem to accept it -- that's just 'the way it works' -- but it's a travesty, and an injustice to 20 years of defendants. The Judiciary is responsible for delivering justice, yet all they deliver is process. If their process doesn't work -- for 20 years -- to hell with justice for all the people that are screwed in the meantime; we'll get it right eventually. They're like the most incompetent, hide-bound business, delivering nothing profitable, committed not to outcomes but to long-established procedures.
If I took 20 years to adjust to some change in IT and deliver on my responsibilities, I'd have been fired 19 years 6 months ago. There is no accountability for the Judiciary -- I suppose that's intended, to preserve its independence -- but what frustrates me most is that the Judiciary takes no responsibility on its own, and that people are blind to it and just accept it, like Windoze users who just accept whatever was given them.
Robert Anton Wilson wrote a short little thing in his Schoedinger's Cat trilogy about stenciling "Cocaine Importers, LTD" or something similar on the side of a delivery van and seeing how the cops respond. It was amusing.
*sigh* back to work...
Whatever the law is for telegraphs should be the law for emails.
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It is basically the same things 1s & 0s (long & short dashes) transmitted over copper wires (or fiber now a days) relayed by a machine or person (depending on the tech).
And even when relayed by a machine the Admin of the machine can read any email on the server. Email passes through multiple servers, at least the sending SMTP and the receiving POP/IMAP machines. I have no control over my ISP's POP server or the Admin thereof.
I assume there was no expectation of privacy in a telegraph and there should be none in an email. It would be nice, but it ain't how it works.
And now for some commentary from a real lawyer.
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2007_06_17-200
[Orin Kerr, June 18, 2007 at 11:49am] Trackbacks
Sixth Circuit Blockbuster on E-Mail Privacy: In an earlier blog post on a pending case in the Sixth Circuit, Warshak v. United States, I figured there was no way the court would get to the merits of the Fourth Amendment issue lurking in the case: there were no facts yet and no decided statutory law, and surely the panel wouldn't be so reckless as to presumptively strike down a federal statute in the absence of facts or law given the procedural problems with the case. I had a funny feeling things would turn out differently when I learned who was on the panel, though, and that funny feeling turned out to be justified: the panel just issued a blockbuster decision that tries to answer how the Fourth Amendment applies to e-mail (all without any facts, amazingly) based on arguments from amicus briefs that the government didn't address all in the context of an appeal from a preliminary injunction. Wow. More on the decision later today.
UPDATE: Here's the key part of the opinion:
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[W]e have little difficulty agreeing with the district court that individuals maintain a reasonable expectation of privacy in e-mails that are stored with, or sent or received through, a commercial ISP. The content of e-mail is something that the user "seeks to preserve as private," and therefore "may be constitutionally protected." Katz, 389 U.S. at 351. It goes without saying that like the telephone earlier in our history, e-mail is an ever-increasing mode of private communication, and protecting shared communications through this medium is as important to Fourth Amendment principles today as protecting telephone conversations has been in the past. See Katz, 389 U.S. at 352 ("To read the Constitution more narrowly is to ignore the vital role that the public telephone has come to play in private communication.")
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Notably, the court's Fourth Amendent analysis combines aspects of the probabilistic, private facts, positive law and policy model (the above-quoted section being from the policy model section).
So, I guess it won't be such a good idea to wear my i read your e-mail T-shirt at work anymore...
"I bow to no man" - Riddick
you know, when I first saw those ads, I thought they were some promo for a new comedy show or something. But as time went on, it became apparent that they were actually selling a "product". Those ads are so over the top ludicrous, I don't know whether to be amused at that company's boldness to sell such a product or pity the folks who buy it thinking it will work. Then again, there may be folks who buy it for a joke or as a gag gift for someone else - that's the only reason that I think of where I would actually buy it.
I prefer Flambe as apposed flamebait.
This is often the case - think of all the free speech cases involving Nazis and white supremicists in this country. It has a good side - it reassures us in the rule of law. If these rights apply to an alleged spammer, then we can be assured that they apply to everyone.
So hold up a beer for this guy, who has accidently helped further all of our rights. And let's hope the police get a proper search warrant and put him away for a good, long time.
It's not wasting time, I'm educating myself.
Extending 4th amendment privacy rights to e-mail has nothing to do with your employer. It only restricts government action.
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I never understood how Enzyte ever got that big
Apparently they use their own product ...
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"Gag" gift...
IANAL, but I seem to recall that courts across the US tend to use federal appeals courts decisions in other circuits in their rulings, since a precedent is a precedent. I suspect there are a great many issues that have been effectively decided for all practical purposes on a nation-wide by having appellate courts issue a decision and then later being cited that never make it to the supreme court.
A magistrate judge ordered me to turn over all email requested by the other side in a federal civil lawsuit. This included email to my parents and my wife which discussed my feelings about the case, possible legal strategy, family member's health, etc.
I have come to understand that, in a civil case anyway, anything you document is discoverable (with the exception of communication between youself and an attorney and youself and an expert witness). I argued that the email was not relevant, but the courts are usually inclined to allow the other side to see it and decide for themselves. The other side got to pour over 500+ emails that have absolutely no relevant information.
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Best two word comment ever. Best comment to directly quote a parent ever. We need Slashdot awards.
I could be wrong, but I think the 4th amendment only covers the specific case of searches and seizures by the government. To construe it as an amendment protecting our privacy in general is wrong.