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Pirate Bay Launches Uncensored Image Hosting
Spamicles writes "The guys over at the Pirate Bay have launched a new, censorship-free image hosting website called BayImg. Users of the new service don't have to sign-up in order to upload images. However, they can assign a 'removal code' to uploaded images, in case they want to delete the files after a while, and tags to categorize images. BayImg currently supports 100+ file formats, and supports uploading Zip and Rar archives. The maximum file size of uploads is 100MB. The article also discusses TPB's plans for launching a video streaming service that will potentially compete with YouTube."
People are going to like them a whole lot less if this turns into a big child porn site.
As others have pointed out, the first things that come to my mind are the fact that this will allow--at least, on the premise--people to upload and distribute pornography that is already illegal most everywhere (i.e. kiddie porn). It may also become a haven for other distasteful images that, paradoxically, no one really wants to see but that aren't necesarily illegal. Which still begs the question, is there actually a legimiate usage for such a site?
Yeah I had a semi-grudging respect for what they were trying to do at first, and then I saw that. I still think they're going bass ackwards about it though. They take the fight to make a created work free. One thing I do not get about this whole thing is their version of making it free is take someones hard work, and let anyone who wants it get it without collecting any monetary reward for the person who did the work.
This image site can do the same thing (ignoring the pedo stuff). Someone could go to the store, buy a Playboy Mag, scan in every image and post it to the site and everyone else could download the pics for free if they new the URL and of they go. So all the money playboy paid the model, the photography crew, the editors, the printers, poof.
Contrary to some of the internet ho's out there who like their pictures posted for free some people like monetary compensation for their investment/grace of good luck genes and deserve to be rewarded for it. How is supporting hosting of their images for no monetary fee 'free speech'
If they were hosting Neo-Nazi's, Black Panther, Anti-semtic, Islamic Jihadist stuff, sure ok that's free speech. But taking someones work and providing it for free? That's what copyright was intended for and it's not free speech, it's theft of services or whatever is the new legal mumbo jumbo for saying stealing money from someone who worked to earn it.
As a rock-in-roll Physicist once said, No matter where you go, there you are.
"Do Be Evil" vs "Don't Be Evil"
This is good, but if they really want to make it safe for users they should:
Otherwise this is, as numerous people have pointed out, going to get shut down shortly after people start screaming "kiddie porn!".
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Don't give the law a legitimate reason to show up on your doorstep, TPB! Drop this immediately. SERIOUSLY bad idea.
If you do this, it'll all be over in a day or two. Cop finds TPB image site, uploads kiddie porn from free and basically untraceable wifi spot near coffee shop, calls other branch of law enforcement about an "anonymous" complaint. Cops show up that day.
It'll be the end of you guys if you pursue this.
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rediculous.
The point is that they don't judge what it the content is. The fact that people use The Pirate Bay to post child porn instead of blank panther stuff is a measure of how awful society has become, not a measure of TBP's intentions.
I just posted that they should actually try to go out of their way to make sure they're not logging such information, in order to protect their users. No anonymity means many people will still engage in self-censorship, not publishing something for fear of the consequences it could entail. But from a liability standpoint, your idea is probably better. Considering the existence of things like Tor, open proxies and the like, anyone who isn't absolutely clueless could still use the service and be relatively safe from being surveilled.
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Piratebay keep acting like they are untouchable and the guardians of censorship, but it just seems they are trying to push the boundaries until thy get caught.
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Publish the date, time and ip address of every upload. No censorship.
Post it via TOR or some anonymizer. Unless they ban all IP associated with such tools (which even sites under dedicated troll assault like 4chan can't do), that's no guarantee for the hardcore.
Still, it's an idea that I find amusing for deterring the casual bad actor.
If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
So, in other words, people should be free to say what ever they like, as long as you agree with it. Brilliant.
The same stands for barely the entire Internet. Copyrighted text never flow so fast around multiple sources, most of the times, without the explicit consent of the copyright owner. Everytime someone posts the entire content of an article here on Slashdot for our commodity (lazy slashdotters don't like to RTFA), it is copyright infringement too. That doesn't mean that Slashdot is supporting copyright infringement either.
The world has changed, and the availability of tools should not and will not be restricted just because some people will misuse those tools.
If you're going to have freedom of expression, you're going to have things you don't like. Even things you really don't like, and things even 99% of the people out there don't like, too. And the fact that you don't think it needs a venue, because you obviously disagree with it, is exactly why it does need a venue.
Also, that article there isn't about TBP hosting a child pornography site, it's about them hosting a "pro-pedophile activism" site -- in other words, a site expressing political and social viewpoints. Are you saying such people and their viewpoints should be censored?
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It seems to me that once again the question comes down to whether or not the freedoms of the many are going to be ripped away because of the misbehavior of a few trolls. There have always been people who abuse the system and cause grief wherever they go just because it is fun for them to aggravate people/authority/whatever. Does that mean that all of the rest of us have to live in chains? I think not. Humanity needs to learn that in order to have freedom, sometimes we have to allow people to do bad things and clean up the mess afterwards. There is no freedom to do good without also having the freedom to do evil. If we can't accept that, then we'd might as well give up all of this lip service to freedom and lock the handcuffs right now.
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How about I take pictures of me in the act of murdering them and post those instead? Right next to it I'll post pictures of my candid camera I have hidden in your bathroom to boot. Privacy shmivacy, your every move should be open for everyone to see at all times!
Personally, I am siding with my morals here, TPB is legal, but wrong.
That's funny, I'm siding with my morals here too. Free copying is illegal, but moral. Scarcity is a great evil, if it can be abolished it must.
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Could someone please indulge me as to why there is such a dire focus on child pornography?
When people have children something hormonal happens to their brains that makes them lose all perspective when children are involved. Think of how irrational your parents were? I remember one time when my younger brother got a ride home and didn't call. He was less than an hour late, and my dad made me drive around with him looking for my brothers body in ditches at the side of the road.
It's the Helena Lovejoy effect. Saying "think of the children" makes people revert to emotional thinking and makes them easier to manipulate. So it follows that if you're trying to grab power, appealing to the safety of children will make people fall in line.
Personally it works the other way on me. Any proposal put forth "for the children", I automatically assume is bullshit. After all, if it had real merit they wouldn't need to manipulate us into going along with it. If someone involved in neuropsychology is looking for a good thesis, pinpointing exactly what is causing this effect would be wonderful.
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Ah, yes! Social engineering by trying to limit supply. Remember when we tried that with drugs, and now there are no more drug addicts out there? Yeah, it'll be just like that.
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You mean replicators? That would be fantastic. No one would ever have to work again.
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It would be the best thing ever. Nothing non-perishable would need to be made from scratch more than once, no more resources would need to be depleted, manufacturing and construction would be much, much, much more efficient (who needs an expensive cement mixer when you can just make 1 litre of it and continuously replicate it), and farming would be far, far, far more efficient (grow a hundred plants, put them into a hundred replicators, and you can have as much food as you want).
Nobody would also want to make anything new ever again. The advancement of technologies would come to a halt. That is what he is trying to say. You are dodging the real issue here and you know it.
With something like this your essentially eliminate the market economy and thus production will cease to exist. People would have little incentive to want to make anything new or improved because they would make no money off of it. They would have lost their job and live in an economy with no money or spare capitol to mess around with.
Answering like you did is juvenile and you know it. I could say that people would replicate huge bombs and kill everyone too. That is not what he is trying to say. He communicated his point just fine to me, why are you so reluctant to see it? Because you know he is right.
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Isn't the point of advancement to make our lives easier? If we just fill that time with more work it becomes a rat race, a tread mill. I don't want to live in that kind of world. The dream is 100% unemployment, 100% leisure time. If we can enjoy good food and drink and family and have a roof over our heads at no cost to anyone, why would we need a job? If people want to engage in productive behavior, and I'm certain most would as it's in our nature, that's wonderful. But eliminating scarcity would free us from the tyrrany of having to work merely to survive.
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I cannot believe that garbage gets modded up. My dream is nothing close to 100% unemployment, that is disgusting. The world we would live in with your dream realized is my biggest nightmare.
The point of advancement is to answer questions. The more questions we answer, the easier life gets for sure, but you continue the quest to answer questions. We should never be content with where we are as a people. We should strive to advance our species forever and always. Contentment breeds complacence. Complacence gets us nowhere.
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Nobody would also want to make anything new ever again. The advancement of technologies would come to a halt. That is what he is trying to say. You are dodging the real issue here and you know it.
Why wouldn't anything new be made? Why would the ease of the duplication of all items duplication influence negatively on the desire to invent any one new item? Profiteering isn't the only reason to make something new, some people just like to invent stuff. Look at Linux.
With something like this your essentially eliminate the market economy and thus production will cease to exist. People would have little incentive to want to make anything new or improved because they would make no money off of it. They would have lost their job and live in an economy with no money or spare capitol to mess around with.
Why do they need spare capital anymore if everything is free to duplicate? Removing the profiteering perspective would actually encourage quality and pride in invention over marketability. Again, look at Linux.
Answering like you did is juvenile and you know it. I could say that people would replicate huge bombs and kill everyone too. That is not what he is trying to say. He communicated his point just fine to me, why are you so reluctant to see it? Because you know he is right.
I can't see how the GP is being childish; he's just not coming to the conclusion that you want him to come to.
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Absolutely true, from one of the victims. Before my children came, I jumped out of airplanes, laid a bike down at 65 mph, and once even reset my own dislocated shoulder. No kidding.
There's something about helping the doctor pin your wife to the table as she almost dies in childbirth, and later holding your little boy as he gets his first set of stitches from his first "I wonder what would happen if I tried this..." experience that blows your perspective.
Becoming a parent, a real parent, a parent who gives a damn, is such a profoundly traumatic experience that it changes you forever. Before you're a parent, the worst that can happen is that you can get killed.
After you're a parent, the worst honestly is, in the truest sense of the word, unthinkable.