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Crackers Cause Pentagon to Put Computers Offline

Anarchysoft writes "As many as 1500 Pentagon computers were brought offline on Wednesday in response to a cyber attack. Defense Secretary Robert Gates reported of the fallout both that the attack had 'no adverse impact on department operations' and that 'there will be some administrative disruptions and personal inconveniences.' When asked whether his own e-mail had been compromised, Gates responded, 'I don't do e-mail. I'm a very low-tech person.'"

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  1. Keyboard Infestation by pipingguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I recommend a less-crumbly type of snack, like carrot sticks or celery. Dip is right out.

    1. Re:Keyboard Infestation by It'sYerMam · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm handing in my geek card. I actually thought this story was referring to food.

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    2. Re:Keyboard Infestation by Dahamma · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm handing in my geek card. I actually thought this story was referring to food.

      That's ok, you were closer than me, I thought it meant that honkeys took over the Pentagon!

  2. i guess it's true, then by zaunuz · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...that the hairdresser's hair is the one with the ugliest haircut.

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  3. Gates onto something?? by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gates responded, 'I don't do e-mail. I'm a very low-tech person.'"

    Actually, this makes Gates sound stupid but as a general rule don't put sensitive information on computers connected to the internet. The best security is not having the damn wires there in the first place. At the top levels of government, where nation-states are trying to install spyware, intercept and decrypt your packets, and otherwise penetrate your defense, maybe having one of a thousand aides sneakernet it is a good solution.

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    1. Re:Gates onto something?? by Icarus1919 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're right, nothing could ever go wrong having someone physically carrying a message.

    2. Re:Gates onto something?? by Belacgod · · Score: 5, Interesting

      In 1914 General Joffre, commander of the French forces, refused to use the telephone, claiming he "didn't understand the mechanism." Therefore he spent hours driving back and forth to the British army headquarters in the middle of a desperate campaign to stop the Germans. It is believed that he feared his words being recorded on the other end without his knowledge.

    3. Re:Gates onto something?? by Karrde45 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Gates calling himself low tech is most likely an attempt to deflect further questions. It was well known in his time at Texas A&M that he would personally respond to many emails from students, and as he was leaving the university he made it known that he frequented a popular aggie message board. http://www.texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_i d=768382&forum_id=5

    4. Re:Gates onto something?? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It explains a lot, doesn't it?

      For once, I'm with him.

      Email is often ignored these days - in fact, its principal virtue seems to be the fact that it is so easy to ignore until such time (if then) as it suits you.

      Mr Gates probably gets more done (as do I, in fact) by picking up the phone.

    5. Re:Gates onto something?? by gruntled · · Score: 5, Informative

      As a general rule, sensitive information is already prohibited on military computers that are connected to the Internet. If you've ever seen an office in, say, the Department of Homeland Security, you'll notice that they have two or even three systems on each desk; that's because none of those computers are connected to each other. Computers that can touch the Internet can't have anything sensitive on them; computers that might have something sensitive on them can't touch the Internet.

    6. Re:Gates onto something?? by idontgno · · Score: 5, Informative

      In the classified processing facilities I've seen, the PCs have no writeable removable media (CD-ROM drive only, no floppy drive, etc.) and the USB, Firewire, and unused I/O ports are filled with epoxy. And the cases are locked shut with the tamper-detection switch active. And reporting to something like Tivoli or HP OpenView.

      Did I mention the network switches also administratively disable any network port that shows a significant interruption in ethernet link status (or change in attached MAC address)? So don't bother trying to switch out PCs either.

      Ultimately, I'm sure it can be worked around. Just not very easily, and failing means an espionage trial and a few months or years in federal pound-you-in-the... well, you know.

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  4. There's modern reporting for ya by kungfoolery · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I could think of a million important questions to ask in a situation like this if I were a reporter:

    "What specific systems were attacked?"

    "Do we have an idea as to who the attackers were? Al Queda? The Chinese?"

    "Were any intelligence reports lost? What steps are being taken to ensure the safety of individuals whose data may have been compromised

    etc, etc, ad naseum....,

    Instead, we get a single insipid question pondering the Secretary of Defense's private email habits and his moderately disturbing technophobic response. Sheesh.

  5. Re: 'I don't do e-mail. I'm a very low-tech person by janrinok · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And why is the ability to use email now a yardstick for someone being capable to do their job? I flew aircraft, using email was totally irrelevant. Nor is it a critical skill for a shopkeeper, a gardener, a fireman or a million other tasks. Sure, they can all use it if they wish to do so, but it does not affect their ability to do their job. I commanded large groups of people and I didn't need to use an email to do it. Lots of information had to be written down but an email was NOT an acceptable format for a set of orders, an intelligence assessment, a personal report on a subordinate or a request for leave. In my environment, you had to be able to write correctly and accurately, using a big boy's pen. Yes, it could be typed, using a traditional typewriter or a computer, but it still didn't need an email to do it. For security reasons, the vast majority of the computers that I used were either standalone or on very limited networks. The email facility, if used at all, wasn't always high up on the list. You probably work in something connected to computers, hence your interest here on /. You are probably interested in technology and other geek pursuits. It might be important to you, but that doesn't make it important to others.

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  6. Re:Gate's quote by Centurix · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you're a member of the military with some rank, shouting is a much more effective mode of communication. I imagine Microsoft producing specialized keyboards for the military, such as the MS Multimedia Sergeant Keyboard, which defaults to caps lock being always on.

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  7. Quit with the "cracker/hacker" bullshit by venomkid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's hacker, okay? Hacker. When someone is able to write code to get a computer to do something awesomely good, that person is a hacker. When someone manages to get a computer to do something is awesomely evil, that's also a hacker. If someone builds a spice rack for Gandhi, or a spice rack for Stalin, they're still both carpenters. Trying to frontload the term with your own moral judgment is just a little too newspeak for me.

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  8. Hammer by freedom_india · · Score: 5, Informative

    The hammer in question was Platinum. Because only platinum does NOT produce sparks [of fire] when struck against other metals in a flammable environment.
    The congress critter who displayed the hammer for all to see conveniently failed to mention it was platinum.
    Now since platinum looks more or less like highly polished steel from a distance, people took it as ripping off..
    The military may be an idiot in many ways: Paying contractors and money? I don;t think they are that dumb.
    And the toilet seat incident? It was a bolt-down toilet for a transport plane with ability to prevent automatic regurgitation when the plane does a hoop-a-hoop (throwing poop on crew is NOT advisable in war].
    Yes, the military was overcharged. But not to the degree you think. The contractors overcharged by 15% on platinum and 12% on toilet seats.
    And the military got the money back.

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  9. Re:If anything can go wrong.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Copyright infringement isn't theft." Is copying another state's secrets theft if the original copy of the secrets is still in the original computer?

    No, that's still not theft. That's espionage.

  10. Re:Uh oh by Mike89 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Another slashdot meme in the making?

    "I don't do $technology, I'm a very low-tech person."

    I don't do Slashdot memes, I'm a very low-tech person.