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Stanford Gets First Sun Blackbox
miller60 writes "The Stanford Linear Accelerator Center (SLAC) will be the first end-user to get a Project Blackbox portable data center from Sun Microsystems. The 20-foot shipping container (which will be white, not black) will sit on a concrete pad behind the computer building with hookups to power, a 10-gigabit network connection and a chiller located on an adjacent pad. The 'data center in a box' will allow the SLAC to expand its computing capacity even though its existing data center has maxed out its power and cooling."
People were complaining that Sun didn't have a decent portable computer (they sold a few Tadpoles, but nothing they made themselves), and this is what they came up with. Apparently it's meant to be an iPhone killer.
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Project Blackbox is one incredibly cool device. Sun was gracious enough to park one as a demo at my company, and it's just a very well engineered, game-changing design. The beauty is that it can be done relatively cheap, because shipping containers are CHEAP in the US. Most of them come from China, and since we import more than we export, we're stuck with a boatload (literally) of excess containers.
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Imagine - rather than spending many millions building a true data center, you can just purchase a (relatively) cheap warehouse and line these things up inside. Instant data center - with lots of inherent redundancy.
Mirror one Blackbox to another across the warehouse.
Disaster Recovery? This the best thing since sliced bread. Park one at another facility 50 miles away and off you go.
I'm highly impressed. It's a bit cramped in there, but if you do your work neatly and place the servers in the racks correctly, it's not an issue. One shouldn't spend much time in the data center anyway!
and I asked
#1 - yes, they are standard racks, so other vendors' equipment will fit.
#2 - I asked about "oversized" equipment (such as Superdomes, E25k's, disk arrays, etc.) - they're working on a solution for that too. My guess is that it would involve removing some of the racks to make room.
I think Blackbox is a great idea with lots of deployment potential. Another thing to note - I was told that the air filters are designed to filter out lots of particulate matter -- sand included. You can guess why.
Umm, a container ship? That'd be a portable Beowulf cluster of portable data centers.
Shit! Someone just stole my datacenter! :(
for Sun (Whose name came from where their first machines were seen, the Stanford University Network) to deploy their first of a new idea.
:)
I'm not sure it's the world-killer that everyone wants to think, mind: If your data center is tapped out for power or cooling, you'll still need to get portable power and cooling to go next to your portable data center, but it does seem to be an excellent idea to tide you over until your real data center expansion gets built. Which means I expect to see a number of these sitting outside fixed data center locations in a basically permanent role, just like the "temporary" trailer classroom buildings outside schools and all the other stop-gap measures we implement "just to tide us over" that wind up being permanent emplacements.
I kinda fear this outside our data center. Especially when the machines therein get on the "long in the tooth" side, and we've decommissioned every application in the thing but one.
It's a great new idea, don't get me wrong, but the problem is how most companies want to run their data centers doesn't look a whole lot like how anybody's actually doing so in the real world.
Yeah, because now that everyone here on /. has seen it sales will go through the roof.
/. sellout editors were trying to hawk their advertisers' wares with a slashvertisement for Spaceship One. I was helpless to resist their blatant advertising and now I've got Spaceship's Two and Three just sitting in the garage. I never even use them. Curse you /. editors and your evil advertising!
As I type this I'm on the phone with Sun ordering a $500,000 portable data centre off the back of an article I read via slashdot. Finally something that can run Aero!
I agree though, this is a shameless plug. It's a growing trend unfortunately. Remember just last year the
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I was a bit surprised that all the pictures only show off the outside and none of the links follow to info on what these things look like on the inside or how they work.
Here is Sun's page that shows off considerably more info: Sun's Project Black Box page
Basically the outside of the box has hookups for power, cooling water, and network. Everything on the inside is pre-wired. Servers aren't included, but they are designed to serve as the transport container for the servers -- not just a place to put servers once the box arrives (the racks have a shock-absorbing suspension system so that servers can be transported in the container without the need to unrack them or pack them for shipping.). When it arrives it just needs to be "plugged in" and it's literally ready to go. Since it really is a standard shipping container, all rules about shipping containers apply -- e.g. there's no shortage of trucks, trains, or boats designed specifically to hold them. They are structurally sturdy and can be stacked tall just like containers on a cargo ship.
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I'm assuming you don't set this up 'in a parking lot' but under some sort of cover/tarp/tent, even painting it white, putting it outside in the northern california sun, can't be very efficient as far as cooling is concerned. How much insulation do they have between the metal of the 'box' and the interior walls?
If it's RAINING, how do you keep from increasing the humidity inside the box. In our datacenters, we have sticky plastic sheets on the floor outside the datacenter so you won't track dust into the datacenter. With a door that opens 'to the outside' how do you keep out dust/dirt?
What do you think would happen if a student pasted a "PODS" label on the side of it & called the company to come do a pickup ?
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I had the pleasure of getting to see and work with the demo unit that Sun had/has on tour. The inside of the unit has two rows of their custom built racks, three racks deep on both sides of the "black box". Each rack has a water cooling unit between it and the next rack in the row so that the hot air comming out of the front rack is cooled before it is used as the intake air for the following rack. The racks themselves are on a custom designed damping/shock absorption system and rail system so that when you need to work on a rack, it can be slid out into the center aisle where you can then access the front and back of the rack. A little planning is needed so that you have the appropriate tools/gear on the proper side of the rack before you pull it out into the center asile, however they do slide very easily even when loaded up so you can put is back in and move behind it or in front of it depending on what you need to do. It makes the most sense to have two people, one on either side do and work on the systems.
It may be a little warm in there if you place it out in the middle of nowhere as the cooling system is really designed just to cool the systems in racks, and not the entire box, especially when you have the front or back doors open, and you may want to close the inner door if you can to keep try and keep the moist outside air from entering the container, however there is a dehumidifier in the system to take care of that situation. It will be a little cramped working in there, but no more so then any high density compute server room. The main idea however is to not have to go in there very often, in which the Sun "lights out managment" systems come into play. The only reason to go into the container is for actual hardware failure, all other maintenace can be performed remotely on systems with the "lom" ports, from bios settings, to single user/maintenance mode issues.
As for your "I know that node failures happen on a very regular basis with clusters...", comment, I have personally found that if you are using "lom", you will almost never need to go in there unless it was a true hardware issue. In the 9 racks of beowulf cluster that I manage, there have only been 6 actual hardware outages over the last 3 years. The majority of issues are software related outages which can all be fixed over the "lom" connections, even reloading the OS...
We were all warned a long time ago that MS products sucked, remember the Magic 8 Ball said, "Outlook not so good"
Faraday cage large enough to encompass a shipping container... Check.
Honking-big wirecutters... Check.
Rollback flatbed truck with 20' bed and winch... Check.
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I mean, look Apple, tried the whole white computer in a box thing with their so-called "Cube" and it never took off. To make it worse:
1. I think this computer looks even BIGGER and UGLIER than the Cube. (Can someone post picture of Cube and this together so we can see size differences to confirm?)
2. Though the internet connection is decent, I don't see a firewire port. HELLO! People still use firewire these days!!
3. Can I use it as a media center device? Those are cool. I think most American's will be able to fit this in their living room under their TV, but no way the Japanese are going to go for it with their smaller apartments...
Nice try, Sun, but I'm not going out and picking up another electrical substation powerstrip just to plug this (probably) under-powered and over-priced white "computer in a box" copycat...
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this was at the menlo park unveiling, a few months ago, for employees and press.
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