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Slashdot: Podcasts, IM, Improved Discussions

We have a number of Slashdot features that we've added in recent months that I've neglected to mention so I wanted to take a moment to share them with everyone today. I'd like to start by reminding all logged in users to try playing with our new experimental Discussion2 system. It's very nearly complete at this point. You can activate it with a checkbox on any article page (provided you actually have logged in). Read on to learn about Podcasts, IM, improved quoting in discussions, new subscriber options and more.

Recently we added the ability to receive AIM instant messages to notify you when stories are posted, when someone posts a comment to your journal, or when one of your friends post a journal. You can turn it on from the messaging preference page. You might need to set up slashdotomatic as a friend or buddy or whatever in your IM client to make it work, but this is a good way to get fast notification of Slashdot stuffs. We hopefully will add other popular instant messaging clients in the future but for now AIM is the top dog so we started there. The code is of course all in CVS if you want to add new platforms... there's room to easily add Jabber, MSN, Yahoo or anything else really. We've talked about SMS as well, so if there's a demand for it we'll work on it.

Everyone who knows me knows what I think about the vast majority of podcasts on the internet. The Slashdot podcast currently isn't at all like that. We call it the the Slashdot Robot Overlord. All it does is use Cepstral Voices to read you Slashdot stories aloud. So if you want to listen to Slashdot stories in your car or on your phone or something, here's an easy way to do it.

Subscribers have a new option in their journals: they can restrict the discussions to logged in users. This is a nice way to minimize trolling and general crappy behavior in your journal. Of course, there's nothing to stop the ambitious jerk from creating a user account, but this will at least slow them down for a few seconds. It's worth noting that when you post a journal, you are given the option to submit your journal to Slashdot... if your journal is selected, you sacrifice that option.

Speaking of comment posting, we've added a new <quote> tag useful in comments. If you choose to encapsulate a quote in said tag, that quote is expandable and contractible via user preferences. Properly quoting comments will allow your fellow readers to have better control over their display than simply blocking a huge chunk of words in italics.

A little bit more information about the Discussion2 system before we wrap up: It's currently tested mostly under Firefox (as is all of our javascript). It also works fine under Safari (2 and 3). We have some UI improvements coming soon as well, but it already is a vast improvement over the old system. One of the next steps is to make D2 degrade cleanly to a non-javascript browser so we can maintain one code base for development. When we get to that point, we can switch over the default/anonymous view to the new system.

We have a bunch of other stuff coming after the holiday. But in the mean time, please test this stuff out and let me know if you see any glaring bugs. The address is the same as always.

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  1. Buggy IE (7) by duerra · · Score: 5, Informative

    I realize that this doesn't matter to a lot of the Slashdot crowd, but Discussion2 is still buggy in IE (IE7, specifically). There are JS errors on the page, the weird gray and white floating box that sits on the page which is apparently there to tell you how many posts there are in the discussion overruns the left-side navigation bar (and overall who's purpose seems a bit pointless to me in general), and its rendering is completely messed up in IE. Also, I have to use FF just to disable Discussion2 on my account, because it doesn't work in IE7.

    You may want to get those issues cleared up before you consider Discussion2 complete.

  2. Clogs up in Opera 9 by Constantine+XVI · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ive' noticed that Discussion2 tends to make Opera 9 chug on large comment pages (usally past 200

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    1. Re:Clogs up in Opera 9 by Ilgaz · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ive' noticed that Discussion2 tends to make Opera 9 chug on large comment pages (usally past 200 It _is_ Opera bug which people like me spent very huge time to report to Opera ASA.

      I even included OS X "sample of application", my logs, my system profile just to make them interested a bit. While guys start the day by checking Slashdot there, they don't fix the freaking bug.

      Unbelievable, no less.

      I hate to give ammo to Opera haters but this is it, I am saying this public. That is a Opera bug which exists since first 9.x versions and lives up to date despite numerous kind of bug reports even posted to their forums.

      Original Slasdot bug report (not mine)
      http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=deta il&aid=1541019&group_id=4421&atid=104421

      By risking CmdrTaco getting mad at me :) I added comment to closed bug even to help Opera people if they ever check one of World's popular Tech sites bug database.
  3. Re:Testing Quote by Qzukk · · Score: 3, Informative

    So the difference is a preference the user can set?

    My guess is that it's a preference I can set to decide how I want to see your post.

    That's my guess anyway, since apparently when I signed up for the University of Michigan testing stuff it clobbered my account profile with whatever was going on at the time and now none of this "discussion2" stuff works. I don't even get this "checkbox on any article page". I can turn on and off the Michigan stuff in my profile, but the majority of the time it wouldn't work in FF or IE, and I ended up leaving it disabled.

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  4. Re:Top-level-replies on new Discussion system by josecanuc · · Score: 3, Informative

    The "Reply" link is on the floating control on the left side of the page.

  5. Re:Testing Quote by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is a blockquote.

    This is a blockquote with italics.

    This is a quote.

    This is a quote with italics.

    Hey, they've fixed at least one bug! :-)

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  6. Re:Testing Quote by kebes · · Score: 3, Informative

    In addition to the bug report that we should file...
    A bug report is now filed in the Sourceforge bug-tracker. Hopefully this is a simple, quick fix... I'd love to be able to experience this "Discussion2" thing that everyone is talking about!
  7. Re:Podcasting before it was cool by nullbort · · Score: 4, Informative
  8. Re:Robot Overlord by Alizarin+Erythrosin · · Score: 3, Informative
    It shows up for me on the front page, at the top... sometimes it gets replaced with the "metamod" thing, but a quick refresh will bring it back up most of the time.

    Slashdot stories can be listened to in audio form via an RSS feed, as read by our own robotic overlord.
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