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Value Propositions of Current CPUs Put to the Test

J. Dzhugashvili writes "Processors are typically compared by their performance alone. However, the folks at The Tech Report have put together an article that attempts to quantify the value propositions of AMD's and Intel's latest processors. The article takes 16 processors through an extensive battery of tests that range from gaming and video encoding to Folding@Home and energy efficiency, and examines the value they offer in each. The results may surprise you."

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  1. It goes to show by Bullfish · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That, now more than ever, the best processor for a person's needs depends on what they are going to do with their machine. The large number of choices in CPUs means that if your needs are simple, you can put together a fast machine with relatively few dollars. Ditto for video cards really. If you aren't married to the fastest cards, there are a lot of cards for around $100 give or take that will give great performance in most things, and even run a few games decently. The hype that CPU makers love to throw out there and the cost of high end parts belies that you can put together a machine cheaper now for most needs than ever before.

  2. Summary, and Flawed Analysis by MojoRilla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bargain basement CPUs do better at $ / work than faster, more expensive ones, because they are so cheap. AMD does well at the low end.

    But this doesn't consider the total price of a computer which would help mid priced chips. A $113 CPU is 54% more expensive than a $73 one, so it would have to perform 54% better. But when you throw them into identical $200 systems (case, hard drive, fan, power supply, memory, etc), the $113 CPU (with a total system cost of $313) is only 14% more expensive than the $73 CPU (with a total system cost of $273).

    So, while the extremely low end chips do well with this analysis, they make much less sense when you consider total system costs.

    1. Re:Summary, and Flawed Analysis by wangerx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would add to this notion of diminishing impact. What about the value of time? If a quad core will run 4x but costs 7x the cost impact will diminish within two weeks of use! The 7x cost is a one time cost; say for example $500 more. The 4x impact on performance and time is forever. For an exaggerated point, if I can get four times the work done, every hour saves me three. If my time were a paltry $10 per hour, I would pay for the CPU cost difference in less than a week. Anything after that it gravy! You might say that the article it is relates to the impact on gaming and not real work (I see encoding as real work) but quality has a cost associated with it too. Entertainment can be largely impacted by quality. It used to be said, that you are not having fun until you spend $20 per hour (circa. 2000). Heck, one might even say that bragging rights have a certain value.

  3. Question: Cost of the energy to run the CPU? by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Note that the Power consumption and efficiency section in the linked article shows CPU power plotted against cost of the CPU, rather than CPU power plotted against the cost of the electricity.

    For computers that are on much of the day, the cost of the electricity over the perhaps 4-year life of the system is significant, and more important than relatively small differences in the cost of the CPU.

    Although the article has some flaws, it is very useful.

  4. Re:Wait for the next price drop by ceeam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Saying "wait" in these comparisons is foul-play.

  5. "The results may surprise you" by tkw954 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The results may surprise you.
    How come does it seem like all the summaries lately have to have a cliffhanger? I'm all for reading the articles, but give us the results. This is a news site, not a murder-mystery.
    1. Re:"The results may surprise you" by Dracolytch · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Because ending in a cliffhanger will result in higher traffic, and thus more revenues for slashdot.

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  6. Power management still has a ways to go by bhmit1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd like to see computer manufacturers get to the point where all non-essential components can power down when a machine isn't using them. This would be huge for server rooms, where most machines are there waiting for users to connect. For my mythtv server, it's running non-stop, but hardly using any cpu until it's recording or playing back. Same goes for a mail/file server. The 100-200 watt idle numbers are wasteful, lets get this down to 10-20 watts. Hibernating or suspending doesn't work when you need to be standing by to service a user.

    1. Re:Power management still has a ways to go by pz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've been thinking for a long time that CPU manufacturers could do well to promote low power chips through the following tact: take an older CPU design (say the venerable PIII) and reimplement in the newer technology. A 1GHz PIII is a reasonable CPU for every-day things like surfing the web, reading email, watching videos (with the help of an MP4 chip), and so forth. At original spec, they dissipate 35 W or so. Current-generation CPUs dissipate 2-3 times as much power, have 3-4 times as much cache, run at 2-3 times the clock rate, have memory systems 4-5 times faster, and on the whole run somewhere between 5 to 10 times faster. How about taking the massive improvements in device design, fabrication, architecture, power management, and so forth that went into these impressive achievements and re-implementing the lowly PIII 1GHz, but at 5-10W maximum power?

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  7. Re:Is AMD faster for 64-bit? by ceeam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you don't need OSS graphics drivers AMD is a damn good choice. And it has been for the last 20 years except small K5 vs Pentium period.

    As for Vista being the last 32-bit MS OS, it could well be the last MS OS period. Anyway - it really stretches 32-bit address space as it is trying to fit its fat ass within i386 pants.

  8. Insanely Expensive? by thestuckmud · · Score: 4, Insightful

    playing games on a PC (which is an insanely expensive hobby)
    I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you have never tried yacht racing, which really is an expensive hobby. I play games on a computer which cost under US$2000 three years ago. New games are stressing the system, so I'll have to upgrade to a faster CPU and graphics card (another $600) this year. Including games, that works out to less than I spend on my bicycle.

    Games cost $60, less if you are willing to wait, often for a hundred hours of play time. No travel expenses. No special clothes required. Hell, gamers don't even need to buy deodorant. Ever priced a round of golf at a good course? How about membership at the club so you can play there?

    I know... if you want to compete with the best players or impress your friends you may choose to buy lots of bleeding edge hardware. My point is you don't have to do so if you just want to play games.
    1. Re:Insanely Expensive? by grumbel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ### which cost under US$2000 three years ago. New games are stressing the system, so I'll have to upgrade to a faster CPU and graphics card (another $600) this year.

      A game console costs between $200 - $600 and lasts you for five years or more. There are certainly more expensive hobbies then PC gaming, but then there are also much cheaper solution to play a game.