Deathbed Confession Says Aliens Were at Roswell

xnuandax writes "The army's explanation of weather balloons in the Roswell, New Mexico incident 60 years ago has been dealt a serious public relations blow. Late Army Lt. Walter Haut had signed a sealed affidavit prior to his death last year asserting that he had witnessed the wreckage of an egg-shaped craft and its extraterrestrial crew while working at the Roswell Army Air Field. An article at News.com.au reviews how Haut had worked as public relations officer for the Roswell base and was involved in the original weather balloon explanation of events at the time. This recent evidence would seem to confirm speculation that egg-shaped saucers are notoriously difficult to fly safely at low altitude."

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Not a trustworthy source

[evildogeye]

He was the founder of the International UFO Museum and Research Center in Roswell, NM. I think that makes it necessary to take his death bed statement with a grain of salt.

Re:Phoenix Lights.

[Anonymous Coward]

I need an explanation, that isn't flares, cause that explanation stinks.

Ok, I'll play your silly game if you just want to throw the truth out because you don't like it. It wuz aliens. Seriously, as an ex Gulf War I crew chief on A-10s there is little doubt in my mind that they are flares dropped from A-10s. That is *exactly* what flares look like from a great distance that are dropped from an A-10. The kind of flares I am talking about are not roadside flares but they are much much bigger and brighter and descend on parachutes. They are used to light up a battle field and they do a mighty fine job of it. I saw show on television where they superimposed actual video footage of the lights over a daylight shot of the mountain range from the exact same perspective that the video was shot from. The "lights" disappeared one by one on the video at the same point they would have dropped below the peak of the mountain (the flares were dropped on the other side of the mountain). Really, the glove fit perfectly.

If you don't believe me here is some more:
http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2007/j an/m26-005.shtml
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4041

Re:anyone curious...

[lawpoop]

why the affadavit, which has been "released", is not printed in any of the articles?

How often have you seen a source document in a news article? Almost never. The audience tunes out; you lose readership. It's a waste of column space.

Someone posted the affidavit text on digg:

2002 SEALED AFFIDAVIT OF WALTER G. HAUT

DATE: December 26, 2002
WITNESS: Chris Xxxxxx
NOTARY: Beverlee Morgan


(1) My name is Walter G. Haut

(2) I was born on June 2, 1922

(3) My address is 1405 W. 7th Street, Roswell, NM 88203

(4) I am retired.

(5) In July, 1947, I was stationed at the Roswell Army Air Base in Roswell, New Mexico, serving as the base Public Information Officer. I had spent the 4th of July weekend (Saturday, the 5th, and Sunday, the 6th) at my private residence about 10 miles north of the base, which was located south of town.

(6) I was aware that someone had reported the remains of a downed vehicle by midmorning after my return to duty at the base on Monday, July 7. I was aware that Major Jesse A. Marcel, head of intelligence, was sent by the base commander, Col. William Blanchard, to investigate.

(7) By late in the afternoon that same day, I would learn that additional civilian reports came in regarding a second site just north of Roswell. I would spend the better part of the day attending to my regular duties hearing little if anything more.

(8) On Tuesday morning, July 8, I would attend the regularly scheduled staff meeting at 7:30 a.m. Besides Blanchard, Marcel; CIC [Counterintelligence Corp] Capt. Sheridan Cavitt; Col. James I. Hopkins, the operations officer; Lt. Col. Ulysses S. Nero, the supply officer; and from Carswell AAF in Fort Worth, Texas, Blanchard's boss, Brig. Gen. Roger Ramey and his chief of staff, Col. Thomas J. Dubose were also in attendance. The main topic of discussion was reported by Marcel and Cavitt regarding an extensive debris field in Lincoln County approx. 75 miles NW of Roswell. A preliminary briefing was provided by Blanchard about the second site approx. 40 miles north of town. Samples of wreckage were passed around the table. It was unlike any material I had or have ever seen in my life. Pieces which resembled metal foil, paper thin yet extremely strong, and pieces with unusual markings along their length were handled from man to man, each voicing their opinion. No one was able to identify the crash debris.

(9) One of the main concerns discussed at the meeting was whether we should go public or not with the discovery. Gen. Ramey proposed a plan, which I believe originated from his bosses at the Pentagon. Attention needed to be diverted from the more important site north of town by acknowledging the other location. Too many civilians were already involved and the press already was informed. I was not completely informed how this would be accomplished.

(10) At approximately 9:30 a.m. Col. Blanchard phoned my office and dictated the press release of having in our possession a flying disc, coming from a ranch northwest of Roswell, and Marcel flying the material to higher headquarters. I was to deliver the news release to radio stations KGFL and KSWS, and newspapers the Daily Record and the Morning Dispatch.

(11) By the time the news release hit the wire services, my office was inundated with phone calls from around the world. Messages stacked up on my desk, and rather than deal with the media concern, Col Blanchard suggested that I go home and "hide out."

(12) Before leaving the base, Col. Blanchard took me personally to Building 84 [AKA Hangar P-3], a B-29 hangar located on the east side of the tarmac. Upon first approaching the building, I observed that it was under heavy guard both outside and inside. Once inside, I was permitted from a safe distance to first observe the object just recovered north of town. It was approx. 12 to 15 feet in length, not quite as wide, about 6 feet high, and more of an egg

Re:Bombula

[E 99]

Trillions of kilometers? That's about 1/10th of a light year, you need at least 8 light years for interstellar travel (and we'd be pretty amazingly lucky to have intelligent life so close to us).

Try "gajillion bazillion manyillian kilometers". Interstellar space travel is pretty ridiculous, and not just because we can't think of a technology that could do it, but because a technology that could do it and not take millenniums would be impossible.
Most of all why would they bother coming all this way? If they did want to travel so far just to say "hello, what's up?" why not do it via radio? This would be much faster and easier.

Actually travelling can be much faster than radio. Special relativity limits communication between fixed parties to the speed of light, because it limits observed travel to the speed of light. Contrary to popular opinion, it does not limit subject travel to any speed whatsoever. While the traveller will never "technically" see his destination approaching with a velocity faster than the speed of light, he will see the distance to is destination relativistically contracting as his speed increases.

Therefore, in a space craft that could accelerate and 1g for half the trip, then decelerate at 1 g for half the trip, Special Relativity predicts you would reach the center of the galaxy in 20 years, covering a distance of (from earth perspective) 30 thousand light years. From earth perspective, our max speed was 0.999999999 c and it took us hundreds of thousands of years to get there. Our perceived speed at any instant was never any faster, but because of the changing length contraction, at journey's end, our perceived distance travelled over time was 1500*c.

These are the lengths of time it would take to travel to the following places using the 1g acceleration/deceleration method. (From http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/S R/rocket.html)

4.3 ly nearest star ==> 3.6 years
27 ly Vega ==> 6.6 years
30,000 ly Center of our galaxy ==> 20 years
2,000,000 ly Andromeda galaxy ==> 28 years
n ly ==> 1.94 arccosh (n/1.94 + 1) years

As an added bonus, if you made the trip to Andromeda, you'd get observe 2 million years of galaxy evolution over your 28 year trip.

Aeroflot

[Savage-Rabbit]

If you compare the number of Soviet recon aircraft the US has shot down vs the number the US has lost And how many soviet recon aircraft flew over US territory? (This is a serious question, I never heard about such incidents.) That depends on what type of recon asset you are talking about. There was frequent probing and prodding of US and NATO borders by all sorts of patrol aircraft like the Tu-95 and Tu-16 etc as well as faster recon aircraft based on jet fighters such as the MiG-25. The actual overflights however were usually conducted by much less spectacular aircraft that remarkably enough seem to have gone mostly unnoticed by the public in the US and Europe. This strategic recon force was known as Aeroflot. It seems Soviet airliners frequently made the most illogical flights simply in order to fly as close to as possible to sensitive sites or even right over them if they thought they could get away with it. They were even known to fake mechanical problems simply to be able to land in restricted areas. Later on the Soviets much preferred a combination of space based and human intelligence gathering but I don't think they ever stopped using the Aeroflot fleet for intelligence purposes. It was a much more elegant way of doing it than the U-2 and SR-71 flights were and as long the scheme remained undiscovered by the public in the west it was a far less provocative way of gathering intel. I was born well before the cold war ended and I can only recall one minor stink being raised when some journalist photographed an Aeroflot machine equipped with what looked like camera gear (presumably this aircraft had an extensive suite of well camouflaged ELINT equipment as well). Of course western intelligence services knew all about this but the public was for the most part blissfully unaware. Of course the USA and the Europeans did the exact same thing if possibly on a smaller scale.

Re:Bombula

[SEE]

Not remotely related? They're both descended from the jawed fish that was the prototype for infraphylum Gnathostomata in subphylum Vertebra in phylum Chordata, an ancestor that provided both with the same basic structure (skull, jaw, spinal column, pairs of limbs) and over 80% common DNA.

Re:Bombula

[Solandri]

If you compare the number of Soviet recon aircraft the US has shot down vs the number the US has lost

And how many soviet recon aircraft flew over US territory? (This is a serious question, I never heard about such incidents.)

I don't think there were many into U.S. territory. They did happen though (bottom of page 8). Most of the incursions were prolly into Canadian airspace. And a favorite Soviet flight path was from the Arctic down to Cuba, right along the U.S. coast (but in International waters).

I would agree though that the number of recon shootdowns by the Soviets doesn't actually mean anything. The Soviets really didn't need to do much aerial reconnaissance. Once they got a man into the U.S. (or Canada - the border is unfenced and unguarded), he could do a much more thorough job collecting intel just by driving around with a camera while "on vacation." That wasn't the case for the U.S. The U.S.S.R.'s closed and restrictive society left aerial reconnaissance as one of the only means of gathering intel on what was going on inside. And from the 1970s on, both sides shifted towards satellite recon.

Re:Bombula

[NoisySplatter]

Or you could stop trying to troll and realize that 90% of those deaths are from Iraqi on Iraqi violence and not from American action. Yes, I've been there, and i know what I'm talking about.