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Singles, Not Albums, Define Music Industry Success

athloi writes "Despite the tough times for albums, the music industry is slowly but surely learning the most important lesson of all: give consumers what they want, and they happily open their wallets. Digital music sales are a new business and a new way of thinking about and interacting with content. The industry should be paying closer attention to its meteoric rise and less attention to the dying, arcane album. It should absolutely drop the rhetoric about how piracy is destroying the business, because the sea change in sales patterns shows that something else is is afoot. It means that when users are sitting at a computer and looking for music, more and more each year are turning to legal download services."

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  1. I was worried about this by prockcore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I like albums.

    Singles exist to catch your attention.. the same way commercials are loud and obnoxious. If there isn't the rest of the album, then the only music will be loud and obnoxious "LISTEN TO ME" stuff. The more subtle music will be sacrificed because it doesn't present well on the radio.

    1. Re:I was worried about this by WilliamSChips · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And that's why Radiohead is failing.

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    2. Re:I was worried about this by christurkel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The gist is, albums will always have a role to play in music, digital age or not, it's just singles will become the dominant form. Think of it this way: AC/DC, Bob Seger, etc, will always put albums worth buying but now you'll be saved from whole albums of Britney Spears and Ashlee Simpson.

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    3. Re:I was worried about this by Stormx2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A generalisation, good sir. I too have a general dislike of produced-for-tv singles, and most of my favourite albums follow themes / are concept albums. However, length != quality. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club falls under your 45 minute mark, and if you look at a lot of beatlesesque indie pop, some albums fall well under 30 minutes, but can be fantastic.

      Still doesn't beat out tool, thought ;)

    4. Re:I was worried about this by spoco2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He wasn't talking about the 'concept' album, we're not talking a Sgt Peppers, or Dark Side of the Moon here (although we could be just as well)... what we're talking about is a collection of songs that you can listen to together, one after the other and they all 'fit' together.

      They don't have to have a cohesive story, they don't have to 'be a part' of some larger vision, but they work when played together, and the listener is rewarded from listening to all the tracks on an album, not just the singles.

      Really, some of my favourite tracks have never been released as singles, and I'd have never known about them if I didn't buy entire albums.

    5. Re:I was worried about this by MonoSynth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      indeed. I hate it when bands just have nine good new songs but cram six more fillers on the album to make it 45+ minutes instead of less than 30 minutes, just to make it look like a 'real' album instead of an EP.

    6. Re:I was worried about this by MonoSynth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      and then there's Sufjan Stevens who manages to release an album with 72 minutes of pure goodness and another album with 75 minutes of outtakes from the recording sessions, just as great as the original album.

      But those are exceptions. Most record labels won't even allow their artists to release an album full of good tracks, because 12 good songs means 3 albums with 4 good songs and a load of crappy album-fillers.

  2. Back to the Future by McFortner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Recorded music started out as singles and is going back to that format. The only reason I can see for the album was to promote and justify the 33 1/3 LP format. With digital music, this concept is totally outdated and destined to die. Let me pick what I want and don't tell me what I have to take to get it. It's like buying a the whole Mu Gu Gai Pan meal when all you want from it is the egg rolls. Michael

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  3. Correct me if I'm wrong by Richard+McBeef · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But I think the music industry has known that for about 50 years.

  4. I like albums by Slashdot+Junky · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dear world,

    I like albums and have found time after time that the songs not released as singles are even better. Singles are what you hear for free on the radio and during that one hour on MTV/VH1 when they are actually showing videos. Why pay for what you're likely to hear at any given time. Pay for what you're missing and find like I do that there's so much more good stuff on an album.

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  5. Custom Albums by resistant · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You'd think the music industry would have smartened up by now and started offering custom albums with a customer's favorite songs burned onto them for a small fee over and above the fees for the songs themselves, making a fair profit from getting the customer keen on having a good-sized collection that *he/she* picked out on-line or at a kiosk, on a decent-quality DVD recordable delivered either at said kiosk or at a local shop which owns specialised equipmentfor that. Not everyone wants to have to do this stuff himself/herself with downloaded (and compressed, less than full-quality) songs.

    But no, it's all about cramming junk songs down people's throats along with a very few good ones. Greedy pigs.

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  6. Albums are great by I'm+Don+Giovanni · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll be very sad to see albums go away and we are left with a bunch of singles. Albums are like a complete work, singles are merely chapters. Would anyone really prefer a world without albums like Sgt. Pepper, What's Goin' On, It Takes a Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back, Electric LadyLand, Dark Side of The Moon, Kind of Blue, Purple Rain, etc, to be replaced by a bunch of singles?

    Besides that, I've found that if a single prompts me to listen to the corresponding album, I grow to like the entire album (I know many here say that albums only have one or two good songs, and then filler garbage, but I've not found that to be the case at all; no album that I've ever bought has been like that).

    I really don't understand those that celebrate the demise of albums.

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    1. Re:Albums are great by McFortner · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Albums are like a complete work, singles are merely chapters

      • Most
      albums are just a single or two with whatever drek they can afford to buy for them to record. The few albums that are "complete works" tend to do very poorly. Most people want a the few songs from the artists they like. That is why mix tapes and cds are so popular, no junk.
      One of the only labels that got that was K-Tel. They gave the public what they wanted (usually) and none of the junk. And where are they now? Gone. Face it, RIAA, albums just don't sell.
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  7. Album = 2 singles + padding. Where's the value? by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Most people buying albums only really buy it for a few songs, with most of the rest being padding so that "you get your money's worth".

    Singles are far better value for money (you buy what you want), but are far harder to handle in physical form. Singles on CD etc are a pain for manufacturers (more lower-value titles == more work for less money), record stores (more stock, lower prices,...) and for the listener (changing CDs after each track).

    Singles do, however, make a lot of sense in download form. They're easy to manufacture (http) and use (itunes etc) and you only pay for what you want. The people who lose are the labels and record stores since they find it hard to add value any more.

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    1. Re:Album = 2 singles + padding. Where's the value? by prockcore · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The people who lose are the labels and record stores since they find it hard to add value any more.


      And the artists. We're heading toward a future where people will have an ipod full of 1000 different artists, one song each. They won't know the name of the artist.. they certainly won't be watching to see what that artist does next.
  8. A simple analogy... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hmmm, what's a suitable analogy here to illustrate the difference between something that you might casually sing along to a bit when you hear it on the radio/MTV and something that you'll want to be able to enjoy in context whenever you wish? Let's try this...

    Singles are like trailers for a film. Albums are the film. There's more genius in a Martin Scorsese production than the 30 seconds you'll see during an ad break. Similarly, there's more genius to the average artist's music than is contained in the radio-friendly, appeal-to-everybody-possible tracks that the record company people decide to release as singles.

    Personally, I'd favour a means of online pricing that encouraged people to listen to albums rather than just buy the odd single. I doubt it would appeal to many (or even be possible now that people are used to the current online pricing models), but $4 for a single track, $8 for the album would be fine with me.

    I hate the idea that instead of a proper record collection, and a real appreciation for music and song as artforms, kids will grow up to have nothing but songs that just the catchy-yet-shallow songs that the radio/MTV happened to be blurting out for the decade or two that they spent growing up.

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  9. It depends by KingSkippus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It really depends on the artist and style of music.

    With some artists, like the Beatles for instance, I like their singles. Their good stuff was really good, but their bad stuff was, well, crap.

    However, some artists are much more conducive to an album-type experience. I always kind of hate hearing a Pink Floyd song on the radio. Not that I hate Pink Floyd, they're one of my all-time favorite bands. But pulling a song like Comfortably Numb out of the context of The Wall, Brain Damage out of the context of Dark Side of the Moon, and so on, well, it just doesn't do it justice.

    It doesn't just have to be concept albums this applies to. A lot of albums have themes that run through them, even though each song stands pretty well on its own. Fleetwood Mac's Rumors is like that. Sure, each song is great, but all of them together are greater than the sum of their parts.

    I think that a HUGE problem (in capital letters!) with the music industry today, aside from treating its customers as extortion victims, is that they don't want to aim for specialized tastes any more. They want everyone just to listen to the same pop crap they forcefeed us all, and if you don't like it, well, don't listen to anything at all. There is no room in their business model for people who like x type of music and other people who like y.

    1. Re:It depends by wasted · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...They want everyone just to listen to the same pop crap they forcefeed us all, and if you don't like it, well, don't listen to anything at all. There is no room in their business model for people who like x type of music and other people who like y...

      Change a few words, and it applies to the automobile industry as well, and probably a lot of others. Too many industries have decided that marketing means making the people want what we want to sell, instead of selling what the people want.
    2. Re:It depends by drcagn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Listen to Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Pepper's, or Abbey Road completely through--masterpieces of the album art form. The Beatles were pioneers of making the album a respectable medium; before them most bands were extremely singles-heavy. Stuff like the White Album, not so much, even though there are great songs on it. Other than that, I agree with your post. A good album is an entire book, full of ups and downs and different emotions and feelings. A single is like taking the climax from a book and reading it on its own. Yeah, it's good, but it has no meaning or significance by itself.

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    3. Re:It depends by ChrisA90278 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "With some artists, like the Beatles for instance, I like their singles. Their good stuff was really good, but their bad stuff was, well, crap."

      Odd that you should pick the Beatles as an example. Beatles are usually sighted as THE example of how albums can be more then just a collection of unrelated tunes. The albums that you listed "Dark Side of the Moon".. came later after the beatles had broken the ground and shown what could be done.

      The other thing about the Beatles was that they were popular enough that they could experiment and include a huge range of music styles. You say "some of it is crap". What it means is that their range of styles was wider then your range of taste.

  10. In reality.. by okinawa_hdr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Good music defines music industry success.

  11. I agree by tjstork · · Score: 2, Insightful

    An album is a work of art as a whole, a sort of a modern symphony with multiple parts. Really, if the industry wants to save the album, it needs to let the artists be artists.

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  12. Re:Popular culture panders, film at eleven by slashdot.org · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can you show me the Billboard Top 10 for any month in history that is just chock-full of talent, as opposed to being filled with well-marketed acts which happened to catch a passing fancy of the public?

    although not really my taste, Dec. 20, 1969 might do:

    No. 1, "Abbey Road," the Beatles
    No. 2, "Led Zeppelin II," Led Zeppelin
    No. 3, "Tom Jones Live in Las Vegas," Tom Jones
    No. 4, "Green River," Creedence Clearwater Revival
    No. 5, "Let It Bleed," the Rolling Stones
    No. 6, "Santana," Santana
    No. 7, "Puzzle People," the Temptations
    No. 8, "Blood Sweat & Tears," Blood Sweat & Tears
    No. 9, "Crosby, Stills & Nash," Crosby, Stills & Nash
    No. 10, "Easy Rider" soundtrack (featuring the Byrds, the Jimi Hendrix Experience, and Steppenwolf)