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Upcoming Film Based On Arthur C. Clarke Story

SoyChemist writes "The Wired Science blog has production stills and a story about a side project that several Industrial Light and Magic employees have been working on. They are producing the short story Maelstrom II as an independent film. The entire thing was shot in front of a bluescreen, so all of the sets and props will be CGI. The lone actor, Chuck Marra, plays a guy that hitches a ride on an electromagnetically launched freight capsule from the moon to earth. When the nuclear reactor that powers the catapult fails, he is thrown into space, but not far enough to escape lunar gravity — leading to an Apollo 13 style rescue mission. The original story was written by Arthur C. Clarke, author of 2001: A Space Odyssey."

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  1. Great Quote for His Interview by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He hopes to visit the great author at his home in Sri Lanka, unveil the completed film, and interview him about the future of humanity in space. I am reminded of a great quote I once heard about from him that would be quite applicable to the above interview:

    There is hopeful symbolism in the fact that flags do not wave in a vacuum. - Arthur C. Clarke I don't know why but my favorite Arthur C. Clarke novel would have to be Childhood's End. In my opinion, there's something more poetic about the style he used for that than there is for any of his other work. Of course, I find myself sliding into more and more bizarre novels these days ... possibly the reason why I haven't seen this adapted into a movie is it's not fit for public consumption (or something that can doom a film in the states, Christian acceptance).

    I love independent films and I've got high hopes for this--if anyone could do up an amazing indie film, it'd be ILM. More importantly, I hope this opens up the door a little more for indie films to debut in regular theatres but unfortunately, I'd have to travel pretty far to find a theatre playing something like this and I live in D.C.!

    That said, he is a great author though from what I've read about him as a man, he is rumoured to be a bit pompous--but you know, he is credited with being the first to conceive a geostationary communications satellite so maybe he deserves to have a movie made for him and his ego stroked a little? :-)
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    1. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by MontyApollo · · Score: 1

      >>That said, he is a great author though from what I've read about him as a man, he is rumoured to be a bit pompous

      Years ago he played himself in some stupid sci-fi movie. Something about how aliens sent an asteroid towards the earth to say "hello", and when we blew it up, they got pissed and sent thousands more. I think it was shot as live news coverage or something, but it sucked. After appearing in that, maybe he would have some humility.

    2. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by CRCulver · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I lost respect for Clarke when he began to attach his name to low-quality projects that were mainly written by another writer--such as the Rama sequels written by Gentry Lee which were full of puerile and un-Clarke-like sex scenes--and when he began milking the 2001 universe. I mean, 2010 was alright, but 2061 was fluff and 3001 was unspeakably awful and pointless (and, from the Amazon reviews, it looks like a lot of people agree).

    3. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by rbanffy · · Score: 1

      I think I may have seen it. Can you name it?

    4. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by ashitaka · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't know why but my favorite Arthur C. Clarke novel would have to be Childhood's End.

      Childhood's End would be good but unfortunately the "huge ships settle over all major cities on earth" imagery has been stolen by Independence Day. And yes, a highly-evolved race saying "religion is a common primitive response in dual-parent species" would not go down too well in modern America. (Maybe that wasn't in Childhood's End)

      A more timely adaptation might be The Fountains of Paradise. Space Elevators, yes.

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    5. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by codered82 · · Score: 2, Informative
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    6. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by Nethead · · Score: 1

      Childhood's End is what started me on sci-fi back in 1972. Thank you again to my science class teacher.

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    7. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by Fallingcow · · Score: 1

      The City and the Stars.

      That's my vote for the next film adaptation.

    8. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by rbanffy · · Score: 1

      Thanks. That was quick.

    9. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by TuringTest · · Score: 1

      So, the aliens got upset because we used anti-spam filters?

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    10. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by IQgryn · · Score: 1

      A highly-evolved race saying "religion is a common primitive response in dual-parent species" would not go down too well in modern America. (Maybe that wasn't in Childhood's End) I'm pretty sure that was from Rendezvous with Rama.
    11. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by hidden · · Score: 1

      Unlikely, given that they never meet the aliens in Rendezvous...
      It might be one of the later Rama books, but if so, its (probably) more of a Gentry Lee quote.

    12. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Yes, I was also very disappointed in the Rama "sequels." You could definitely see that his hand was not involved with the writing. And what was with that Venus Prime series?

      He is a very good author, for the stories he's written. He shouldn't be attaching his name to puerile, character-driven trashy space operas.

    13. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by khendron · · Score: 1

      That theme is from "Fountains of Paradise", as part of the conversations with Starglider.

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    14. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      No, that was a pilot message. When they saw that someone was here that's when the opened the spam gates and sent thousands more.

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    15. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't know why but my favorite Arthur C. Clarke novel would have to be Childhood's End. ... possibly the reason why I haven't seen this adapted into a movie is it's not fit for public consumption (or something that can doom a film in the states, Christian acceptance).

      Or it could be simply that the story won't translate well into film.
       
      Among other things - it's really two or three connected stories told serially within one set of covers. This is the same problem that haunted Dune for decades (for example). Another problem is that Sir Arthur simply won't leave Sri Lanka, which renders collaboration difficult. Yet another problem is that 'popular' (film) sci-fi has tended for decades towards 'space opera' and lightweight sophmoric 'philosophy/morals' and steered away from deep issues and complex tales. (LOTR could safely (partially) ignore the issue of complexity because that series has what Sir Arthur lacks, a large and vocal fanbase.)
       
      And the issue of fanbase may be the real key - for whatever reason, among the Masters of SF, Sir Arthur remains largely obscure. He's known for 2001, but many fen know little more than that. He simply isn't read very much. (This may be because his main output over the last twenty years has been a series of simply wretched collaborations.)
    16. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by Khuffie · · Score: 1

      One of my favourite stories by far!

    17. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by codered82 · · Score: 1

      The only reason I remember it so well was that I was 12 and it scared the hell out of me.

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    18. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by arashi+no+garou · · Score: 2, Informative

      Childhood's End would be good but unfortunately the "huge ships settle over all major cities on earth" imagery has been stolen by Independence Day.

      I take it, then, you haven't seen the "V" miniseries from the early 80s? I always felt that "V" was the inspiration for that particular part of the "Independence Day" plot. Then again, I'm old enough that I actually watched "V" in first-run.
    19. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by xtracto · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Personally I prefer Mr. Isaac Asimov, his Robot short stories (some of them in the I, Robot book), his Foundation Trilogy and other books are the ones that made me an avid reader. Oh, and he invented (coined?) the term "Robotics".

      Oh and Asimov and Clarke used to play saying each that the other was a better Science Fiction writer.

      Of course, I believe Mr. Clarke is more popular.

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    20. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by Wavicle · · Score: 1

      For all interested parties, there is more info on the Maelstrom II short movie here:

      http://home.comcast.net/~jeroen-lapre/ArthurCClark e/MaelstromII/MaelstromII.html

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    21. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by Threni · · Score: 1

      > I take it, then, you haven't seen the "V" miniseries from the early 80s? I always felt that "V" was the inspiration for that
      > particular part of the "Independence Day" plot. Then again, I'm old enough that I actually watched "V" in first-run.

      Childhood's End was written in the early '50s, somewhat before V. V was a crock of shit, though, which is presumably why Independance Day is the film you think of when you think of "huge ships settle over all major cities on earth".

    22. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by Evil+Pete · · Score: 1

      Childhood's End would make a stunning movie ... if it is filmable. In spite of the small number of pages it is pretty epic. And it is perhaps too deep for Hollywood to take on without stuffing up badly. A lot of Clarke's stories went for the final bitter twist of fate: "The Star", "9 Billion Names of God", the one about the one man in a spacesuit outwitting an space cruiser, etc. CE is the same, Karellen's final thoughts about the status of the Overlords as compared to Humans is the exact reverse of the impression when the ships first arrived. I'm not sure that crucial aspect would be conveyed. And I'm sure the religious right would have something to say about such a sympathetic story about devils.

      I used to read a lot of Clarke I liked his philosophical view of the scale and exploration of space and some of the amazing and disturbing things that might confront us. The stories which stick in my mind include the one that is planned to be made into a film. I have never been able to remember its name but the image of the astronaut in an elliptical orbit about the moon where the perigee (replace gee with whatever the correct term is for the moon) will make him intersect a lunar mountain range has stayed in my mind ever since. At least this one is simple enough to get right.

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    23. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      That would be Dr. Issac Asimov. Also, according to the usual source, "It is a mark of the friendship and respect accorded Asimov by Arthur C. Clarke that the so-called "Asimov-Clarke Treaty of Park Avenue", put together as they shared a cab ride along Park Avenue in New York, stated that Asimov was required to insist that Clarke was the best science fiction writer in the world (reserving second best for himself), while Clarke was required to insist that Asimov was the best science writer in the world (reserving second best for himself)."

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    24. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by ashitaka · · Score: 1

      Oh yes. I saw "V". Lovely the way they extend their mouths to munch on guinea pigs.

      I don't think too many others remember a miniseries from the 80's and Will Smith kicked serious alien ass in Independence Day so if you show the same imagery now I think more will think "Ah, ripoff of ID4"

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    25. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      great novel!

    26. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by Cimon+Avaro · · Score: 1

      Childhoods end would be sort of cool, if they had Lordi play the lead on that one.

      What would really be cool though is if they filmed The Dark Lightyears by
      Brian Aldiss... even though it wouldn't be the same without reall smells...

    27. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by dbIII · · Score: 1

      His older novels which I very much like normally weigh in at little over a hundred pages and pack in a lot of ideas. The recent things with his name on are big enough to be thrown to kill rats and only contain or or two ideas - whether that is due to a co-writer, ghost writer or editors that insist that is what sells now I do not know. Puerile, character-driven trashy space operas and fantasy sold by how many inches thick they are is what a lot of the book market is about now.

    28. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by funfail · · Score: 1

      I don't remember about that quote but in the later Rama books (last one?), aliens admit the existence of a creator, who experiments with several "big bang"s and observes the resulting intelligent species each time.

    29. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by Kattspya · · Score: 1

      I've read alot of Asimov's book and I'm sure that the phrase he coined was "roboticist" not robotics. At least that's what he says in one of the robot anthologies. He may have coined both but I've only seen him claim roboticist.

    30. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Issac Asimov?
      The original poster at least spelled his name correctly: Isaac Asimov.

    31. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by xtracto · · Score: 1



      Robotics is the science and technology of robots, their design, manufacture, and application.[1] Robotics requires a working knowledge of electronics, mechanics, and software. A person working in the field is a roboticist. The word robotics was first used in print by Isaac Asimov, in his science fiction short story "Runaround" (1941).

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    32. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by Kattspya · · Score: 1

      So he coined both. Thank you.

    33. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by arashi+no+garou · · Score: 1

      Actually what I liked best about "V" was not the sub-par acting, the hokey (though pretty decent for the time) effects, or the overt alien-invasion plot. It was the sub-plot of the resistance movement triumphing over the oppressive foreigners, right down to the WWII references. It was very moving and inspiring to my seven year old mind when I first watched it.

    34. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by Threni · · Score: 1

      > It was the sub-plot of the resistance movement triumphing over the oppressive foreigners, right down to the WWII references. It was
      > very moving and inspiring to my seven year old mind when I first watched it.

      Meh! I feel that whenever I watch the news.

    35. Re:Great Quote for His Interview by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      Yes, and I at least gave the proper salutation (Dr. instead of Mr.).

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  2. Crack open that wallet, Poindexter by E.+Edward+Grey · · Score: 0, Troll

    "Film" eh? I'll just ask you what other movie you recently saw that was filmed entirely in front of a blue screen and features minimal human acting, and you'll get the point.

    Of course, because you're a nerd, you're going to hate it, and you know already you're going to hate it, but you're going to shell out your rent money to see it anyway. Make a night of it. Bring your girlfoh who am I kidding here.

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    1. Re:Crack open that wallet, Poindexter by glwtta · · Score: 1

      What on earth are you talking about?

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    2. Re:Crack open that wallet, Poindexter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Well I'm on Slashdot, and you're on Slashdot, so a reasonable guess might be: Linux.

    3. Re:Crack open that wallet, Poindexter by deweycheetham · · Score: 1

      "The 300" on the History Channel(while I was reading /. of course). Done entirely in front of a green screen with minimal actors. They could have use cartoon figures as far as I was concerned, but still a good historical recreation. Hey I am geek not a "Red Carpet Groupy". What do you expect?

    4. Re:Crack open that wallet, Poindexter by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 1

      still a good historical recreation

      300 was a pretty good comic book and movie, but it was lousy history. If you read up on the real Greco-Persian wars (of which Thermopylae was only a small part, altough certainly a pivotal one) you'll see that Miller changed a lot of what happened -- in some cases understandably, for the sake of dramatic pacing, but in other cases for no apparent reason.

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    5. Re:Crack open that wallet, Poindexter by mwlewis · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but he was talking about a show on the History Channel. I saw it, too, and it was pretty good.

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    6. Re:Crack open that wallet, Poindexter by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 1

      Oops. Apparently I should have RTFP'd before replying. ;)

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  3. Who? by glwtta · · Score: 5, Funny

    The original story was written by Arthur C. Clarke, author of 2001: A Space Odyssey.

    Oh, that Arthur C. Clarke.

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    1. Re:Who? by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Funny

      The original story was written by Arthur C. Clarke, author of 2001: A Space Odyssey.

      Oh, that Arthur C. Clarke.

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    2. Re:Who? by ashitaka · · Score: 1

      Remember, any sufficiently advanced sarcasm is indistinguishable from offtopic.

      OK, I seriously Laughed Out Loud. This should go down in the annals of Slashdot history as one the The Great Posts.

      Thank you for making my day.

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    3. Re:Who? by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I just couldn't beleive that somebody modded the GGP "offtopic".

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    4. Re:Who? by MontyApollo · · Score: 1

      I used to think "off-topic" got used a lot when someone didn't get a reference in a joke, but I'm starting to think there are a fair number of people that just don't like jokes period.

    5. Re:Who? by vorlich · · Score: 1

      The benefits of a classical education. Ah, those heady days of slash/hilarity.
      Go to the top of the class RANDOMLUSER(804576), we are unworthy. Outstanding.

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    6. Re:Who? by whyde · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Remember, any sufficiently advanced sarcasm is indistinguishable from offtopic.


      I thought it was, "Any sufficiently advanced ignorance is indistinguishable from stupidity."

      Other notable variations include:

      Clarke's Third Law: prov. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

      Any sufficiently reliable magic is indistinguishable from technology.

      Any sufficiently nice person is indistinguishable from someone who likes you.

      Any sufficiently advanced communication technology is indistinguishable from random noise.
          --Richard Factor's Corrolary to Clarke's Third Law.

      Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.
          --Vernon Schryver

      Shermer's Last Law: prov. Any sufficiently advanced Extra-Terrestrial intelligence is indistinguishable from God.

      Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
          --Gregory Benford's Corrolary to Clarke's Third Law.

      (Go ahead, you know you want to swipe one of these as your signature. Admit it.)
    7. Re:Who? by Kiaser+Zohsay · · Score: 1

      Remember, any sufficiently advanced sarcasm is indistinguishable from offtopic.

      Other notable variations include:

      Clarke's Third Law: prov. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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  4. Rendezvous with Rama by nacturation · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm still waiting for Rendezvous with Rama to come out. They used to have some info up at the domain name, which is registered by Revelations Entertainment and was supposed to be sponsored by Intel. If the IMDB page is accurate, this might be coming out in a few years... but it's been simmering for about a decade so who knows how accurate that is.

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    1. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by raddan · · Score: 4, Informative

      If someone actually does do Rendezvous with Rama, they'd better do it right. The thing about that book-- and the thing that has always made me love Clarke's writing-- is that it captures the wonder and fear in an almost palpable way. But the fear part is hard for movie people to get right. It's the fear of the unknown. Not the fear of some big, drooling monster like Hollywood loves to put in the films. Rendezvous with Rama captured the weirdness of an alien species, and to my knowledge, Arthur C. Clarke is the only writer, next to Stanislaw Lem, who toys with the idea that actually communicating with aliens may not be possible.

      Kubrick has made one of the only true sci-fi films in my mind-- 2001: A Space Odyssey. Rama would have to do something similar. Definitely a hard sell, but those kinds of films have staying power.

    2. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by Tmack · · Score: 1
      Yeh, I had my hopes up for a while after they announced the movie would be made... but it seems to have faded away and the last news I read about it didnt sound too promising.

      Now movies (or series of movies) I would really like to see would be based on Ring World, or the Mars trilogy. Actually, take almost any of the Known Space stories and adapt it to a movie.

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    3. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by Fastolfe · · Score: 1

      I loved these stories. My greatest fear is that with such lackluster interest from the major studios so far, when it finally does get made, it'll be done on a low budget and end up disappointing.

    4. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by ashitaka · · Score: 1

      Morgan Freeman owns the rights. He wants to have a major part in the film. But hey, Morgan, you're getting on in years. Better do it soon.

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    5. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by hansamurai · · Score: 1

      Rama is such a great book, but it reminds me too much of the original Star Trek movie, which was slow and plodding. The movie could be absolutely breathtaking, as I imagine if done right, it would. But at the same time, be very boring. Clarke wasn't really interested in centering his stories around characters, which movies generally are. I loved the entire 2001 series, but fell asleep during the movie.

    6. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by cronot · · Score: 1

      Hmm. But would it sell? I've only read Rama a few months ago, and while the geek in me loved it for all the cool ideas and concepts it has, I was a little disappointed by the anti-climax of how the story ends - without providing further insight on the purpose of the Ramans and what happened to them. I know that are sequels, but I won't bother reading them since from what I've heard almost unanimously, they are worthless - they deviate too much from the direction and style of Arthur C. Clarke, since it is mostly written by someone else.

      I mean, Rama certainly works for me, but I have a hard time believing a story that ends with a whimper would work for the general public.

    7. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by aitala · · Score: 1

      You may get your wish sometime soon....

      Dr E

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    8. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by Cctoide · · Score: 1

      I wish I had mod points right now. This is exactly what made me love the book. The game was great at capturing this, which made it unusually good for a book adaptation, IMO.

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    9. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by aitala · · Score: 1

      The 'end' of Rama does present certain issues... its not the most cinematic book ever written..

      Dr E

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    10. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by Floritard · · Score: 1

      ...who toys with the idea that actually communicating with aliens may not be possible. until Rama II when the humans were given a large talking owl with which to communicate. Ya know, because people find owls to be soothing creatures. j/k I loved the whole series of books, though the sequels are definitely more hollywood-friendly.
    11. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by Scarblac · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Rendezvous with Rama captured the weirdness of an alien species, and to my knowledge, Arthur C. Clarke is the only writer, next to Stanislaw Lem, who toys with the idea that actually communicating with aliens may not be possible.

      That description reminds me of _Roadside Picnic_ by Boris and Arkady Strugatsky. Recommended reading.

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    12. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by labyrinth · · Score: 1

      For me, the fact that there was no "explanation" was exactly what made the original Rama book so good.

      I did read the sequels, but I did not like them much- for me they were the kind of book I throw across the room in disgust, but then I can not help myself picking it up again later (late Heinlein has the same effect on me)

    13. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by aitala · · Score: 1

      The sequel(s) were bad - I only made it through Rama 2.

      But the problem with the original is the lack of serious action...in terms of creating a movie. Most of the interesting bits happen between people's ears which is kinda hard to film...

      Dr E

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    14. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by vorlich · · Score: 1

      It would make a damn fine movie as it stands, but perhaps the French would have to do it! Jean-Jacques Beineix or Luc Bresson.
      Ringworld was optioned for a movie and - allegedly - by the Sci-Fi channel.
      The various screenplay treatments of Ringworld were unadulterated dog food and I don't think the websites that used to have them, exist anymore - probably a good thing.
      Tanj!

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    15. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

      The original book was good, but the later ones were stupid. "Angels did it", is pretty lame for a Science Fiction author.

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    16. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      If someone actually does do Rendezvous with Rama, they'd better do it right. The thing about that book-- and the thing that has always made me love Clarke's writing-- is that it captures the wonder and fear in an almost palpable way. But the fear part is hard for movie people to get right. It's the fear of the unknown. Not the fear of some big, drooling monster like Hollywood loves to put in the films. Rendezvous with Rama captured the weirdness of an alien species, and to my knowledge, Arthur C. Clarke is the only writer, next to Stanislaw Lem, who toys with the idea that actually communicating with aliens may not be possible.

      Somehow I'm reminded of the movie Cube, which did the fear of the unknown with people lost in an 'alien' structure pretty well.

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    17. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      The original book was good, but the later ones were stupid. "Angels did it", is pretty lame for a Science Fiction author.

      I disagree, if only for the fact that the ultimate explanation was left open. There was the religious impression given to the one deeply religious guy, and other characters did their own interpretations.

      "Angels did it" sounds more like the two Rama novels written by Gentry Lee alone, after the proper Rama series. They were IMHO surprisingly bad, considering how much Lee seemed to have improved Clarke's writing in their collaboration novels.

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    18. Re:Rendezvous with Rama by raddan · · Score: 1

      Oh, no kidding. But considering that Clarke himself didn't really write it, I basically think of it as a different story. Or fan fiction. Same deal with the Brian Herbert/Kevin J. Anderson crap. The only "collaboration" I've enjoyed so far was Asimov/Silverberg's novel version of Nightfall.

  5. Isn't this a lose-lose by jeffmeden · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Does anyone else see this as a lose-lose for these budding filmmakers? If the project is a success, ILM will own any distribution rights to it, since it was made with company resources. Meanwhile, these guys spent undoubtedly countless nights and weekends working on it, without pay. What will they have to show for it but a spot in the credits?

    1. Re:Isn't this a lose-lose by nacturation · · Score: 1

      Does anyone else see this as a lose-lose for these budding filmmakers? If the project is a success, ILM will own any distribution rights to it, since it was made with company resources. Meanwhile, these guys spent undoubtedly countless nights and weekends working on it, without pay. What will they have to show for it but a spot in the credits? Kinda reminds me of a certain operating system where people invest countless hours for no pay and other companies rake in the money from it.
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    2. Re:Isn't this a lose-lose by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sounds more like a win-win to me. If it's not a commercial success, these guys will still have a completed project to add to their demo reels and resumes, which didn't cost anything financially. If it is a commercial success, they'll have made a ton of money for ILM. ILM is known for being among the coolest places to work in the FX industry, and it will probably get them some nice bonuses and brownie points, as well as the elusive prize of a successful film for their resumes and demo reels.

    3. Re:Isn't this a lose-lose by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      In a way, yes, but in this case it's like working on a FOSS project, only to have your employer claim ownership and slap a copyright on every last bit of source code. A situation even the most generous of programmers doesn't want to see happen to his/her work.

    4. Re:Isn't this a lose-lose by christurkel · · Score: 1

      No. They are doing it for the love of it. When it is done and they present to Arthur C. Clarke, I imagine it will far outweigh any consideration of credit or money.

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    5. Re:Isn't this a lose-lose by eln · · Score: 1

      Even if you do something for the love of it, if someone else comes in and makes millions of dollars off of it, and gives you nothing, it's bound to burn a little.

    6. Re:Isn't this a lose-lose by count0 · · Score: 1

      The chances of someone making millions of dollars off of an obscure Clarke short are slim-to-none....this is about establishing credibility in the industry, not making money.

    7. Re:Isn't this a lose-lose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it so hard to imagine that poeple do things because they like doing it ? That not everything they do is for moeny ?

    8. Re:Isn't this a lose-lose by 3D+Monkey · · Score: 1

      No this is completely win-win for Jeroen (producer/director) and his crew. ILM is very cool about this sort of thing. He will be able to show the film at festivals and get notoriety (i.e. Slashdot and Wired) to help get him investors and propel the excitement forward. In order to become a noticed force in the entertainment industry you HAVE to put in countless hours outside of your normal work and expect that money will follow in time. However, working for ILM as your daily grind is fairly lucrative. Jeroen has worked for them for over 10 years and he's doing what he loves.

      I've had the pleasure of meeting and spending time with Jeroen at ILM, and well, he is MORE than happy to be working with Mr. Clark and this is definately his dream come true. In the same position I can't imagine anyone would be averse to spending extra time to realize their goal.

      More power to them, and thanks for posting this story to /. !!

    9. Re:Isn't this a lose-lose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're pretty stupid for someone with such a low UID. That's bound to burn a little. Did you buy it on EBay?

  6. lol by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Funny

    The entire thing was shot in front of a bluescreen

          As if I really care which OS they used...

          oh, wait...

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    1. Re:lol by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 1, Funny

      "Offtopic". Fucking mods. That was funny. I'm offtopic.

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    2. Re:lol by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm used to it. It's the puppies. I get a lot less mod points since I got the sig about the puppies. I guess I'll have to bump it up to eight.

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    3. Re:lol by vorlich · · Score: 1

      The puppies gag always makes me laugh. Seven is such a quality number. I get slash modded ever since I put a rather entertaining quote from the bible in my profile. I guess people are taking it seriously! Funniest part was - I read it first on slashdot.

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  7. The Cheapskates! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The entire thing was shot in front of a bluescreen, so all of the sets and props will be CGI.
    You're joking! You mean they didn't film it in space?
  8. Um, which story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought the original idea for 2001 was the short story _The Sentinel_.

  9. What will they have to but a spot in the credits? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like a great deal. Having something good to add to your portfolio increases your chances at a better job in the future.

    I've turned lots of crappy jobs on my resume into stepping stones to a better position.

  10. Re:This is slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yeah, that guy from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

    Of course we all know.

  11. Re:This is slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He was the one with two heads, right?

  12. Re:This is slashdot. by jandrese · · Score: 3, Funny

    If they hadn't put that bit at the end the first comment would have been something like: "Would it KILL you to tell me who you're talking about? I actually had to use Google! Slashdot sucks!"

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  13. Re:This is slashdot. by Fallingcow · · Score: 3, Funny

    That usually happens when they have a headline like, "gPySQLbird 1.0.4 released", then talk about how great it is, without ever saying what the hell it does or comparing it to some better-known, similar project or product that might give us a hint.

    Then, they have an article about a guy who almost certainly makes anyone's top-5 list of best sci-fi authors 1950-present, and they feel like they have to explain it. He's one of a handful of sci-fi authors that even non-sci-fi fans usually know.

    Weird.

  14. Apollo13-style rescue mission? by donour · · Score: 3, Informative

    There was no rescue for Apollo 13. They had to figure out how to get home safely just by following the directions of the crew on the ground. Thank goodness, they had Tom Hanks. :-p

    1. Re:Apollo13-style rescue mission? by Don+Sample · · Score: 2, Informative

      And if they follow the Clarke story, that's what happens in this movie too. The guy has to follow the instructions on how to save himself that he gets from the folks on the ground.

    2. Re:Apollo13-style rescue mission? by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

      And if Tom had his ball with him, he would have done it in half the time.

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    3. Re:Apollo13-style rescue mission? by Minwee · · Score: 1

      Are you suggesting that the Apollo astronauts didn't have any balls?

  15. Doesnt fill one with confidence by AaronLawrence · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The words entire thing was shot in front of a bluescreen don't exactly fill me with confidence these days. In fact I'd say that the record for such movies is poor, only Sin City really having managed to avoid being bland and dull. Dear filmmakers: yes CGI can save you money, and show you new interesting visions, but you STILL HAVE TO WORK ON THE BASICS like making convincing characters and interactions between them ... and actors find it hard to produce that if you make them work in front of a bluescreen.

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    1. Re:Doesnt fill one with confidence by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      One of the biggest problems with blue-screens is the tendency in films (like Skycaptain and the World of Tomorrow) to film actors in the same scene at different times and just composite them together. In a film with only one human actor, this won't be a problem. The other issue is the actors not interacting with things they can't see correctly (pretty much anything in the new Star Wars films). This could still be a problem, but the fact the whole film is set in a fairly small craft should alleviate it somewhat.

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  16. No Blue screen by nurb432 · · Score: 0

    How about a show about a rat chef? Not much human acting there, and its raking in the cash.

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    1. Re:No Blue screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah! It is ALL human acting, except the humans have (through animation) been made to look like rats! That is what makes the film so compelling, all the oh so human drama.

  17. Re:What will they have to but a spot in the credit by rbanffy · · Score: 1

    I may be wrong, but I think there aren't many places cooler than ILM to work for.

    It is also quite impressive that _all_ the props will be CGI. It must have been incredibly painful to sync them with a live actor.

  18. That would be great by jgoemat · · Score: 1

    As long as they refrained from making any sequels. I found "Rendezvous with Rama" to be one of the most compelling science fiction stories ever. It was well written and had interesting characters you could empathize with and root for. It also had a great plot with realistic and entertaining challenges for the characters to overcome. The sequels were a huge letdown. Instead of being about exploring this mysterious alien craft and protecting it from hasty actions by planetary governments, the second book is more of a soap opera with the human characters fighting petty squabbles and acting in ways that strain credibility.

    1. Re:That would be great by little+bunny+photons · · Score: 1

      Often, I resort to contemplative measures when watching a film with someone else. "Did you know the guy who plays so and so is...Blah blah McBlahdy-pants?" Grrr. That's what ruins it for me with voice-overs. Once I figure out who it is it's all over. That actor or actress simply will not leave my head. When I figured out that Joaquin Phoenix was "brother bear" I left the room. haha. I was meant to be an actress...what the hell happened? A life of science and discover isn't so bad I guess. When I watch movies I sometimes play that roll in my head and arrogantly think to myself, "I could do better". Probably not, but confidence is key? I have not seen the movies you have mentioned, but I think I might. This website is so great. Yesterday I was talkinga bout quantum emchanics and today I'm replaying to a movie post. Two of the most wonderful facets in life, second to my family. My favorite movies are old science fiction movies like "This Island Earth" and "War of the Worlds". What about you? At Best Buy you can get some really great sci-fi movie collections. The movies are so old that spaceships are made of cardboard and tied to string, but they are the best.

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  19. But you get to go home at night by Animats · · Score: 1

    As Gwyneth Paltrow said while working on Sky Captain, an all blue screen job, "I get to go home at night and sleep in my own bed." This after filming the scene where they're in a blizzard on a mountain at night. The mountain is CG, the blizzard is CG, and the weather is LA. Beats having to go on location to Outer Nowhere.

    1. Re:But you get to go home at night by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      Well, good for Gwyneth Paltrow. Is she a good enough actress to convince me she's in the freezing cold if she's being filmed in a climate-controlled studio in L.A.?

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    2. Re:But you get to go home at night by Animats · · Score: 1

      Well, good for Gwyneth Paltrow. Is she a good enough actress to convince me she's in the freezing cold if she's being filmed in a climate-controlled studio in L.A.?

      Yes. But in the scene where she's dodging the giant walking robots, her movements look wrong, because, of course, she's responding to something that isn't there during filming. That's a big hassle for actors doing blue screen work - weak cues.

      Sometimes a live actor can be put in the scene to play some character that will be inserted as a CG character later. Action scenes where invisible CG stuff is flying around and live actors have to deal with it tend to look wrong. That's when you find out if the director is any good.

      CG work is hard on directors. Traditionally, scenes are debugged with the director and the actors running through a scene and checking a playback to see how it looks. That's a tradition from live theater, and Hollywood worked that way for decades. Once in a while, something great happens, and a bit of cinematic history is created.

      This doesn't work for CG-heavy productions, which have to be preplanned to death. The production process is more like animation - storyboarding comes first, every shot is designed and blocked before there's any principal photography, and the actors are just another layer to be composited in. The effect can be leaden acting. It's the director's job to get some life into the scene. Some directors are much better at this than others.

    3. Re:But you get to go home at night by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but she's also brave enough to dress up as a fat woman in a controlled, studio setting and pretend to be obese for an 2/3s of an entire 90-minute film!

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    4. Re:But you get to go home at night by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's interesting--animation and special effects used to be completely different techniques, but now the only difference is that one is supposed to look like animation and one is supposed to look realistic. Wouldn't it be possible to shoot Gwyneth's performance against greenscreen and then do the CGI specifically to fit her performance? Or would it perhaps be too time-consuming and expensive to go to that level of detail?

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  20. Re:This is slashdot. by jgrahn · · Score: 1

    Then, they have an article about a guy who almost certainly makes anyone's top-5 list of best sci-fi authors 1950-present, and they feel like they have to explain it.

    Let's see:

    >>> 'Clarke' in ['Sturgeon', 'Cordwainer Smith', 'Leiber', 'P. K. Dick', 'Simak', 'Stephenson']
    False
    Not for me. (But I see your point.)
  21. Re:Who? Chuck... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    Norris? I thought I saw his name. Wrong Chuck.

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  22. lone actor? by phrostie · · Score: 2, Funny

    how much dialoge can you have in a movie with only one actor?

    not much.

    can too

    can not

    can too

    can not

    can

    can't

    can

    can't

    1. Re:lone actor? by YT · · Score: 1

      Actually if you have read the story, then you'll know there is more then just the actor. There is the moon base and if I remember correctly a shuttle craft that tries to rescue him. So yes it's mainly centered on just this lone guy in a cargo pod, but there are other people he will be talking to.

      YT

    2. Re:lone actor? by phrostie · · Score: 1

      thanks, i'll definately be looking for this at the bookstore.

  23. Graypeace will hate it by ishmalius · · Score: 2, Funny

    With modern (hyper)sensitivities, ecologists will likely decry the damage to the lunar landscape.

  24. Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope it's better than 2001: A Space Travesty

  25. Whatever happened to Morgan Freeman doing Rama? by adzoox · · Score: 1

    I sold the domain rendezvouswithrama.com 7 years ago to a production company that involved Morgan Freeman partnering with Intel to create a movie version of Arthur C. Clarke's Rendezvous With Rama ... nothing's ever come of it.

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    1. Re:Whatever happened to Morgan Freeman doing Rama? by aitala · · Score: 1

      The production company is still working on the project...

      Dr E

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    2. Re:Whatever happened to Morgan Freeman doing Rama? by anubi · · Score: 1
      I have read the entire RAMA series - and loved it.

      Here's hopes Freeman produces this film.

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  26. Re:This is slashdot. by Control+Group · · Score: 1

    So...did you miscount? Are you making a slantwise crack about zero-indexing? Or do Stephenson and Simak only count as half an SF author each?

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  27. Hopefully it's a winner by YT · · Score: 1

    I hope it does well. Sir Arthur C Clarke and many other writers have tons of excellent short stories. The "Wind from the Sun", "The Sentinel", "The Nine billion names of God", "A Meeting with Medusa" to name a few from Clarke. It would be really neat to see some of these turned into short movies.

    YT

  28. Just Wait for the DVD by linx4prs · · Score: 1

    I'm really looking forward to this; finally the talent and resources of someone like ILM can be used independently of the dumbed-down, over-hyped and commercialized Hollywood establishment. And don't worry about waiting for your local consolidated theater chain to decide to show it to you, just wait for the DVD. Then you can see it when and where you want, without paying for parking or $5 popcorn, with no cell phones or noisy patrons making loud or stupid remarks, and you won't have to pay $10 to watch 25 minutes of commercials and "approved" previews before the movie begins on their schedule. The "big screen" is hardly worth it anymore.

  29. Re:What will they have to but a spot in the credit by tzot · · Score: 1

    It is also quite impressive that _all_ the props will be CGI. It must have been incredibly painful to sync them with a live actor.
    I think your comment is two-three years late. If you find impressive the fact of synchronizing CGI sets with a single actor, what do you think about Immortel (ad vitam), Sky Captain, Sin City and Casshern?

    btw, the garden scenes in Casshern were a joy to my eyes.

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  30. Re:What will they have to but a spot in the credit by rbanffy · · Score: 1

    All of them had some props. If I got the pictures right, this one has no prop whatsoever - even the spacesuit or the ladder the actor pretends to climb do not exist, not even as a blue-screen prop.

    This _is_ painful.

  31. Arthur C. Clarke was a pedophile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just FYI. So, yeah, big surprise he's a liberal.

  32. Humor on Slashdot by gd2shoe · · Score: 1

    For a forum with "It's funny laugh" headlines and "funny" moderations, we should expect a fair number of jokes (hopefully in good taste).

    Those who can't stand them can go look elsewhere.

    (although we do seem to be off topic now... hmmm... )

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  33. Re:This is slashdot. by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 1

    Boy am I glad to see Sturgeon at the top of your list. I was introduced to his work many, many years ago by my father and would put him frist in my list as well. How sad it is that most of his stuff is out of print. Sure, you can get 'More than Human', but try finding 'Some Of Your Blood' or 'The Dreaming Jewels'

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  34. Re:What will they have to but a spot in the credit by tzot · · Score: 1
    Does it really matter in this case? It could be painful for the actor to accurately pretend climbing a ladder (unless he's a good mime already), but presumably he will be continuously portrayed as wearing a spacesuit, and they have the technology and the experience (and the garments, as can be seen in the article photos) to automate the process of rendering matching 3D content on pre-recorded footage. I can't fathom how skinning the actor with a 3D spacesuit could be a problem, if they just let their software follow the spots and o's and x's.

    My objection goes to your 'painful'. That's all.

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