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Groklaw Explains Microsoft and the GPLv3

A Groklaw Reader writes "After all the questions about how the GPLv3 will or won't apply to Microsoft following Microsoft's declaration that they weren't bound by it, PJ of Groklaw wrote this story about how and why the GPLv3 will apply to Microsoft. Specifically, it covers in what ways Microsoft would convey GPLv3 software under the Novell agreement, and how Microsoft's refusal to allow previously sold vouchers to be redeemed for GPLv3 software would impact that agreement. Given that Novell has said that they will distribute GPLv3 software, Microsoft may have had the tables turned on them already."

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  1. Re:What matters is enforceability by Enderandrew · · Score: 5, Informative

    Europe found Microsoft guilty of anti-trust violations and made Microsoft release a version of Windows without Media Player, to which they complied. The EU also made Microsoft pay a half-billion dollar fine, which hurts no matter who you are. They have had to pay further fines as the EU has declared Microsoft hasn't done enough for interoperability, and forced Microsoft to release source code.

    It sure seems to me that the EU has been hitting Microsoft pretty hard.

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  2. Re:Microsoft Vouchers by january05 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Except for all the software in SLES that was "GPLv2 or any later version"; except the fact that the FSF already had GPLv3 Draft 2 printed up? Except for the fact the contract at Groklaw and the coupons refer to a product known as "SLES" and _updates_ for the software, and that the coupons MSFT sold and got revenue from have no expiry date? Yes, it is certainly negligence on the part. Best scenario: MSFT renounces the patent deal and LEAVES the GNU/Linux revenue stream as long as they don't want to comply with the GPL. That will certainly get them into compliance. Anyway you're wrong about GPLv3 btw, Samba's already GPLv3, GNU tools, several other Linux apps, etc.

  3. Re:What matters is enforceability by VGPowerlord · · Score: 4, Informative

    Items sold by Amazon.com LLC, or its subsidiaries, and shipped to destinations in the states of Kansas, Kentucky, North Dakota, or Washington are subject to tax.
    -- Amazon.com

    The above line is there to note that, due to how taxes work in the US, the US Amazon site does not have tax as part of its item prices.

    The "Our Price" amounts displayed for goods sold by Amazon.co.uk are inclusive of UK VAT. ...
    For non-book items that are shipped to addresses within the UK (such as giftwrap, audio books, CDs, vinyl records, minidiscs, videos, DVDs, electrical and photographic items, toys, software and PC and video games) the UK VAT rate is 17.5%.
    -- Amazon.co.uk

    Whereas the UK site includes the UK VAT of 17.5% for software.

    So... £184.98 = 1.175 x price... divide both sides by 1.175... the price is actually £157.43 ($317.32)

    So, while the gap is still large (around $100), it's not nearly as large as you originally made it out to be (around $155).
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  4. Sheesh, have you forgotten? by Xenographic · · Score: 4, Informative

    You forget that Eben Moglen, a professor of law at Columbia University and general counsel for the FSF read the Novell / Microsoft agreements and drafted the GPLv3 with them in mind with the intent to undo the damage the discriminatory software patent agreements cause.

    Given that he believes Microsoft is in trouble and that Microsoft *actually took notice* of the GPLv3 enough to issue an announcement, I'll have to say that while it's probably a thorny legal question, it's nowhere near as one-sided as you make it out to be.

    Eben, BTW, is pretty much the foremost legal expert on the GPL. You know, having helped draft it and all. And it's not like PJ doesn't talk with lawyers about her posts. You know, like Eben...

    But what the hell do I know? I just post snarky comments on Slashdot... like you do.