Firefox Quickies
First, Gypsy2012 writes with a highly critical security flaw involving both Firefox 2.0 and Internet Explorer, which could allow a malicious attacker to gain remote control of a user's system. It exploits the "firefoxurl://" URI handler. ... Next, reader dsinc sends word that the beta for Firefox 3 has slipped by 6 weeks. The new target date is September 18 at the earliest. The article wonders whether the final release will slip into 2008. ... Finally, reader jktowns points out new anti-phishing features in the latest nightly build of Firefox 3. One of them was added into the code base by the guy who developed the LocationBar2 extension.
Demonstration
Cmd.exe
This should launch cmd.exe....
Notice that you must click that link from internet explorer, firefox will warn you that an external application is being called.
above example taken from here
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Granted if it's a bug it needs fixed regardless, but I would be more shocked if it said "allows a person to gain remote access on ALL systems running said software".
There are some sites that don't work with Firefox.
Hell, I've got Firefox on my WIndows system (but Opera is my main browser,) and I usually end up using IE for some sites.
Normally, I'm surfing with Firefox and NoScript and AdBlock and ....
It keeps me safe.
If a site doesn't work with that, then fuck them. I only need IE for some work related sites that have stupid ActiveX controls.
Firefox crashes for you? Read the MozillaZine Knowledge Base article about Firefox crashes and you can probably fix your problem.
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
In case anyone was wondering. Seems like skipping version 2 was a good choice after all.
Firefox hasn't released a fix for this, and there is no mention of it on their web site.
Now this blows:
http://secunia.com/advisories/25984/
> Solution:
> Do not browse untrusted sites.
> Disable the "Firefox URL" URI handler.
The first is impractical. The second begs the question, "Sure, How?" Read on:
> Extended Solution:
> The "Extended Solution" section is available for Secunia customers only.
> Request a trial and get access to the Secunia Customer Area and Extended Secunia advisories.
So these guys are publishing zero day security flaws, then making you reach for your credit card. Very grubby.
The CNET article doesn't tell you what the fix is either. Google has nothing. Anyone?
Open Windows Exporer (not Internet Explorer) and from the Tools menu select "Folder Options" menu. On the dialog that appears select the "File Types" tab.
Now in the list of registered file types find the one that says:
"(NONE)" for extension and "Firefox URL" for file type
Select it and click on delete button to delete it.
Click on "OK" to close the "Folder Options" dialog.
As the island of our knowledge grows, so does the shore of our ignorance.
Firefox will warn you if a program tries to use other protocols. It will allow you to suppress the warning, however, which can cause the same problem as IE, but at least you can't say you weren't warned. So from this POV, it is IE's problem moreso than Firefox's, especially when it's considered that the URLs can't do anything from WITHIN Firefox, and that (I haven't checked this, just heard it somewhere) the protocol was requested by MS for some Vista compatibility thing or some such nonsense. Not sure if there's anything to that.
However, on the flip side, anyone who implements a protocol needs to be aware any web page can invoke the protocol at will, without the consent of the user (well, thanks to IE's "standards"). This results in being able to do things like this. This webpage redirects the browser to steam://open/main, which will open the main Steam window. The user never sees the actual url. This could work with the firefoxurl protocol as well. Here are some other things that can be done, some of the uglier ones have confirmation screens I believe, but launching a game or connecting to a server does not. Note the first one which promises that it can redirect command line arguments, just like firefoxurl... however I cannot get that to work (I tried -shutdown and it just focused the main window like my current sample does). Also note the hackish steam://openurl/, which is designed to allow Steam's built-in IE browser to invoke the computer's default browser. Theoretically this could be used to bypass a popup blocker.
Of course it would appear that Steam at least can't run arbitrary programs and is limited to it's own folder in terms of effects (I could force you to join my UBER LAME COUNTER STRIKE SERVER but that's about it).
I think both Microsoft and Mozilla need to take steps to fix this problem. Microsoft needs to improve external protocol handling to at least what Firefox does (Firefox could even secure its own handling more, but that might detract too much from the flexibility. Not that that's stopped anybody before). Mozilla should remove this silly firefoxurl bit. I can't think of any legitimate reason for it (anyone have any clue?).
As for Valve with Steam... steam://openurl/ is a bit much I think. It's expected for users who don't know what MSHTML or ActiveX are to think it's a bug that external windows open in IE, but us devs know that, internally, IE is just spawning a new window for a page. Since when were you browsing the web in IE and click on a link and it popped open in Firefox? I wouldn't want that to happen if I preferred IE! (Yeah... firefoxurl is definitely useless.) I mean, can't Valve say that because Steam uses Internet Explorer internally for the Store, all launched webpages will appear in Internet Explorer and there's no way around it? Eh probably not. The technically inclined probably think everything is great now and wouldn't care if anyone told them Valve used a hackish and possibly unsafe solution.
Although at the least they could use a whitelist for urls to use for openurl... IE steampowered.com and whatever other sites they link to... although considering the number of third party games being added it could be a largish list. :(
Perhaps steam could kick the steam:// thing entirely, but the only alternative I can think of is an Internet Explorer BHO (ick, not worth the trouble IMO), unless they can do something fancy with javascript or java or flash or something.
Here's a bonus for reading all this: You can see what available protocols Windows / Internet Explorer can use (Firefox too, although it has its own extras like about: and data:) by checking HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT in regedit. Search for Values with the exact name of "URL Protocol" and the keys you find (or maybe it's in the default value?) are the protocol names. With a look it can be easy to figure out how
The fact is that the URI handler firefoxurl:// is installed by.... Firefox.
In other words, IE is redirecting to the firefoxurl DLL or EXE installed by Firefox, and that is the code which is executing user input without warning.
To me it seems disingenuous to blame the IE implementation for handing control to the Firefox protocol handler, which is treated like a shell plug-in. It seems the responsibility to prompt the user should rest on the protocol handler. Otherwise, IE would be expected to prompt on the execution of any protocol handler that was unknown at the time that IE shipped, or some such "prompting heuristic." This would be inconvenient and also subjected to ridicule on /.
That's the new text format randomizer , w'hic'h optionall'y add's inap'propriate a'p'o's' t'r'o'p'h'i'es .
It was added a couple of months ago to settle a bet whether Slashdot's editors are better than a random number generator (as yet no winner has been declared).
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After reading about "firefoxurl" and what it does, I only have one simple question: what on earth were they thinking when they implemented it? What's it supposed to be useful for?
As far as I can tell, the only use it could possibly have is creating desktop URLs that always open in Firefox, however there's no reason why they would have to create a URL handler to do that. Otherwise, it's completely worthless and, as discovered, a security risk, to boot.
For added fun, attempting to use a "firefoxurl" URL while Firefox is already running creates an infinite loop. (It just keeps on asking you to allow an "external application" to launch. It doesn't even seem to actually work. I get the same results when launching it directly from IE through the address bar.)
Why was this implemented? What was it supposed to do?
And, for bonus points, is it possible to write a firefoxurl that, when opened in IE, would unregister the firefoxurl handler?
You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.
I'm not sure this wouldn't work on Opera if written specificaly for it (which does still reveal a benefit of Opera--people don't usually think to write code exploiting Opera. It just isn't economical to do so). The reason I say this is because, when I click on the link above, Opera asks if it can open FF. This does not end up being detrimental because then I just end up with FF asking me if it can open FF (instead of asking to open cmd.exe). However, if the exploit were written for Opera, then I imagine Opera would have asked me if it could open cmd.exe instead of FF. With all the people out there who just click "ok" to everything that pops up on their computer (i.e., my wife, despite my attempts to teach her otherwise), this could be a workable exploit.
As for Opera on Feisty--it looks ok to me. The font is different from that in Windows but nothing "whacked up."
I interpret that as saying that the Firefox installer messed with Windows and Internet Explorer, opening a hole. Is Window/IE really to blame when another application adds "features" that end up being holes?
If Windows/IE were to filter what can and cannot happen through URI handlers, I could see developers crying foul for preventing access and locking out competition.
Further, is the onus now on Microsoft to fix a hole created by Firefox? And once they fix it, and legit things break because of it, who's fault will that be?
-David
Just highlighting domains of phishing sites isn't going to be enough. Here's today's list of domains that "sort of look like Paypal". These are after subdomain truncation.u i.ork.pl"
"paypal-checker.com"
"paypal-contact.net"
"paypal-customize.com"
"paypal-erreur2.com"
"paypal-security.com"
"paypal-web-dll-scrnupdateaccount.ici.st"
"paypal-web-scrn-dll-pl-dai-pl-webscrndllfs-werty
"paypal.powered.at"
"paypal.q.fm"
"paypalaccverify.com"
"paypalcomcgibinwebscrcmd.by.ru"
"paypalcomcgibinwebscrcmm.by.ru"
"paypalcomcgibinwebscre.by.ru"
"paypalconstomers.com"
"paypalct.com"
"paypall.ro"
"paypalmd.com"
"paypalobjects.us"
"paypalsecuritycenter.org"
"paypalverification.org"
"paypel-acc-5.com"
"paypilpal.com"
"paypll-wscr.com"
"paypluspl.com"
These are from PhishTank, which blacklists at the URL level based on manual reports. For SiteTruth", we're in the process of converting to blacklisting phishing sites by the entire base domain. That's because we now see hundreds of entries like "session-624333.nationalcity.com.userpro.tw", which has to be treated as a bad indicator for all of "userpro.tw".
There's collateral damage. There are days when "tinyurl.com" and "notlong.com" get blacklisted, because phishing sites use them. MSN gets complaints about this. Today, anybody running something like "tinyurl" needs to continually check the phishing databases for attempts to abuse their service, or their own reputation is toast.
I do not get waht the fuss is all about. If firefox is started from IE that has to ring a bell. Second I get a warning from Firefox that it wants to start an external application and I can click no and nothing happens. I have never before seen that question from firefox so I have run into a website that uses this vulnerability. Beside this happens when you are surfing using IE. If you surf using IE then you are asking for problems in the first place.
I wouldn't call it laughing. "You are coming to a sad realization. Cancel or allow?"
"If you've used Windows Vista for more than 3.7 minutes, you know what UAC (User Account Control) is.. it's the obnoxious, nagging popup window that will be your life for the next 3-5 years... Note: Disabling UAC will lead to a less secure system, so be warned. -- The How-to Geek
I did this on XP as well. You can always remove the FirefoxURL entry from the registry located at
.reg file, should you ever want to put it back.
.reg file you saved.
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\FirefoxURL
So, go to start Run, type regedit and navigate to this key. Right click on it and choose Delete.
Of course you could also export the entry and save it in a
To put it back, just double click on the
As the island of our knowledge grows, so does the shore of our ignorance.
Responding to yourself as if someone had given you guff over your choice of operating system? ... Karma troll much?
StoneCypher is Full of BS