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FreetoCopy writes "Teenagers downloading music may not be the worst copyright offenders. See this item (available for download in PDF file with free registration) about the growing problem of copyfraud — in which publishers, archives, and distributors make false claims of copyright to shut down free expression. From the paper: 'Copyfraud is everywhere. False copyright notices appear on modern reprints of Shakespeare's plays, Beethoven's piano scores, greeting card versions of Monet's Water Lilies, and even the US Constitution. Archives claim blanket copyright in everything in their collections. Vendors of microfilmed versions of historical newspapers assert copyright ownership. These false copyright claims, which are often accompanied by threatened litigation for reproducing a work without the owner's permission, result in users seeking licenses and paying fees to reproduce works that are free for everyone to use...'"

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  1. Hey! by niceone · · Score: 4, Funny

    That summary is copyright (c) Me 2007 - take it down now, or I'm sending the lawyers round!

  2. No, you cannot have Fair Use. Not Yours. by interactive_civilian · · Score: 3, Funny
    Yeah? Well, unfortunately for you, the expressions "That summary is copyright" , "take it down now", and "I'm sending the lawyers round!" are all copyrighted to me in my famous poem "Sue You" (c) 2006:

    Sue You
    Take it down now
    Take it down now
    That summary is copright
    Take it down now
    I'll sue you if you don't
    Take it down now
    I'm sending the lawyers round!

    Your overuse of my IP clearly falls outside the realm of Fair Use, so "take it down now!"

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    1. Re:No, you cannot have Fair Use. Not Yours. by Eudial · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh yeah? I've patented the process of rebuttal wars in matters pertaining to copyright claims!

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    2. Re:No, you cannot have Fair Use. Not Yours. by ZorinLynx · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sorry to all of you, but I have a patent on being a smacktard. Pay up!

    3. Re:No, you cannot have Fair Use. Not Yours. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sadly for you I copyrighted the vowel in 1999. I count well over 40 offenses in your previous post. Expect a letter from my lawyer.

  3. There should be consequence by erroneus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As far as I can see, there is apparently no consequence for making a false claim of ownership. Perhaps false claims of ownership should result in the loss of their ability to assert copyright at all. Actually, that probably wouldn't be appropriate but I'm at a loss for what would be appropriate in a case of false assertion especially when it should be obvious that they didn't create the works in question.

    However, when you create a "derivative work" based on public domain content, it's probably eligible for copyright protection in and of itself. The problem comes from where you draw the line. Perhaps in the interest of preserving the public domain, there should be law stating that any use of public domain material within derivative works should also fall within the public domain. Imagine how viral that could be...

    1. Re:There should be consequence by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 5, Informative

      Perhaps in the interest of preserving the public domain, there should be law stating that any use of public domain material within derivative works should also fall within the public domain.

      That's already the law. You can read it at 17 USC 103(b). But it only covers that portion of the derivative work. So if you, say, make a movie where there is a scene involving you reading one of Shakespeare's sonnets, then the sonnet is still in the public domain. Anyone can watch that movie and copy down the sonnet, rather than having to consult some other source to get it. However, they can't copy anything from the movie that is copyrighted, such as the video or audio of you reciting the sonnet, or the remainder of the movie; only the sonnet itself. This applies to derivatives of anything, by the way; whatever portions of the work are derived from elsewhere keep their original copyright status and do not acquire the status of the newer work. E.g. Disney's 'Fantasia 2000' is mostly going to have a copyright date of 1999, but since part of it ('The Sorcerer's Apprentice') is from the original 1940 movie, that portion is still treated as a 1940 work, and will enter the public domain before the newer parts of the movie.

      It's not viral though. The use of public domain materials in a derivative work doesn't make the entire work derivative.

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  4. I fell for copyfraud on the US Constitution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I paid money to the family of King John of England after they claimed it was work derived from something called the "Magna Carta." I think I may have been rooked.

  5. Re:All over the place. by Reaperducer · · Score: 3, Informative

    Remember when the Bush Camp tried to shut down Jib Jab over the copyright of "This land is my land?"
    Slashdot would be a better place is people could leave their partisanship on the side and just present facts, not their dreams.

    JibJab was sued by The Richmond Organization, which owns Ludlow Music, and was asserting its copyright claim.
    As much as I hate to cite Wikipedia:

    Richmond Organization threaten[ed] legal action. At this point, it was noticed that the copyright to the original 1945 publication had expired in 1973 and was not renewed as then required by copyright law. The Richmond Organization settled with Jibjab shortly thereafter. It still, however, claims copyright on other versions of the song, such as those appearing in the 1956 and later publications. Legally, such claims only apply to original elements of the song that were not in the public domain version.

    So, no, it wasn't the "Bush Camp" that tried to get the song pulled. And those who can remember the parody without the tinted glasses of partisanship remember that it poked fun at both Republicans and Democrats equally well. But somehow you don't see Republicans claiming the "Kerry Camp" tried to get it silenced. I wonder why that is...
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  6. Public Domain Can Be Re- Copyrighted by VidEdit · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm very pro public domain, cc and copy-left but the FA omits some facts.

    Although he's right that merely digitizing or copying a public domain work does not result in a new copyright, creating a collection of public domain works does. The individual works remain in the public domain, but you can't copy the "collection" as a whole (eg. scan and upload the book as a whole to the internet) because the creativity of selecting and assembling the work is a new copyright. This, for example, would apply to Dover books of public domain clip art.

    Also, public domain music can be re-copyrighted to an extent--unfortunately--because individual arrangements can be copyrighted. You are free to use the original tune, but you can't copy a new arrangement because that arrangement is a new copyright.

    Public domain is not GPL. Just because a work is public domain doesn't mean that derivative works will be public domain.

    Now, that being said, the article is, otherwise, a good one. I'm tired of museums and "educational" institutions claiming copyright on the public domain works in their collection and copyright on the reproductions of those works. In those cases, no new creativity has occurred and there is no new copyright.

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    1. Re:Public Domain Can Be Re- Copyrighted by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 5, Informative

      Although he's right that merely digitizing or copying a public domain work does not result in a new copyright, creating a collection of public domain works does.

      Well, it may, but it doesn't necessarily. A compilation is only copyrightable if the selection and arrangement is itself sufficiently creative. And the compilation copyright only pertains to the copyrightable portions of the selection and arrangement; not the materials which compromise the compilation.

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  7. As far as I'm concerned by iminplaya · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ALL claims of exclusive ownership and control over information are fraudulent. The law itself is a fraud.

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  8. What we need is DRM! by DigitAl56K · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't go into convulsions just yet!

    But we need an effective way for marking content with important details such as copyright owner, copyright date, contact details, and perhaps even licensing details in terms of what the licensor explicitly allows to be done with the content, even if there is no artificial technology restriction imposed on what is disallowed.

    For example, if I find a piece of music on the Internet and I want to use it in something that I'm creating, how do I know if I can? Who do I contact? What if I don't even know what the song actually is? Sure enough, even knowing that the copyright holder doesn't want me to do such a thing might not stop me from doing it, but at least I know I'm acting against their wishes.

    If we could have some form of DRM that was actually more like "digital rights marking", and survived transcoding/editing, that would probably be very interesting. To the extent that it wasn't used to restrict our actions, but merely make us aware of what we were doing (in terms of our actions being acceptable or otherwise), maybe that's something we as a society could agree to adopt.

  9. You mean... by realkiwi · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... Shakespeare is dead?

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  10. Re:All over the place. by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Give the man a break. So much is the fault of Bush & Co. that if you don't know what you're talking about, you can guess it was them and be correct more often than not. That's exactly the kind of thing terrorists would do. After all... terrorists have done so many bad things that, if you don't know what's really going on, you can guess it was them and be correct more often than not.

    Broken thinking makes good comedy - but not so good politics.
  11. music scores by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 3, Informative
    To elaborate on what Stubear said, in the case of scores for old composers, sometimes we don't have a complete, original score. Just parts have survived, possibly from different versions of the work. There can be considerable creativity involved for a modern arranger to put together a score for such a work.

    And even if we do have the complete, original, score, it may have been for old instruments. A lute is not the same as a guitar, for example, and when Vivaldi wrote for lute, he knew how it would be tuned, and what fingerings were possible. To make it work on a guitar can be quite a creative challenge.

    Even if we still use the same instruments as the composer wrote the piece for, we might want a score for different instruments. You can't just sit down at your piano, or guitar, or with your full orchestra, with the score to, say, Bach's cantata #147 ("Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring") as originally written as a choral work, and start playing. It just won't work. You basically have to rewrite the music for those different settings.

  12. Re:All over the place. by Spazmania · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Making a false claim under the DMCA is PERJURY. It's a criminal offense.

    Wake me up the first time someone is convicted of perjury for making a false DMCA claim. Its not real until the prosecutors, well, prosecute it.

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  13. Sometimes not fraud, but sheer ignorance... by Stanislav_J · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I sell out of print books on eBay. There is a certain historic African-American sorority that published a quite hard to find history of the organization -- tends to bring triple-digit prices when you can find a copy. I've been fortunate enough to twice have found a copy (once at an estate sale, once in a Goodwill), and both times when it was listed on eBay, I was INUNDATED with hostile messages from members of that sorority. Apparently, they believe that the fact that the book is copyrighted means that only THEY can sell copies, and only to fellow members -- as far as they are concerned, I don't have the right to read it or even posess it, let alone sell it! Both times, they lodged complaints with eBay who politely explained to them the right of resale and the fact that pretty much every used book sold, whether on eBay or in your local book nook, is copyrighted. But that didn't stop them from continuing to harass me and threaten me with legal action (take yer best shot, I told 'em). Really makes one wonder what sort of deep, dark secrets are in that book that they don't want any "outsiders" to get their hands on a copy!

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  14. Re:As an ebook publisher making pocket change by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 5, Informative
    But I had to spend a couple of days OCRing the material, cleaning it up, and formatting it. Anyone else wanting to sell it, or give it away, should have to do the same, not swipe my work.

    The Supreme Court and the Constitution disagree with you. The authoritative case on your 'sweat of the brow' argument is Feist v. Rural. Here's the good bits, rearranged and edited a bit for clarity:

    [Some] courts developed a new theory to justify the protection of factual compilations. Known alternatively as "sweat of the brow" or "industrious collection," the underlying notion was that copyright was a reward for the hard work that went into compiling facts. The classic formulation of the doctrine appeared in Jeweler's Circular Publishing Co.:

    "The right to copyright a book upon which one has expended labor in its preparation does not depend upon whether the materials which he has collected consist or not of matters which are publici juris, or whether such materials show literary skill or originality, either in thought or in language, or anything more than industrious collection. The man who goes through the streets of a town and puts down the names of each of the inhabitants, with their occupations and their street number acquires material of which he is the author.

    The"sweat of the brow" doctrine had numerous flaws, the most glaring being that it extended copyright protection in a compilation beyond selection and arrangement - the compiler's original contributions - to the facts themselves. Under the doctrine, the only defense to infringement was independent creation. A subsequent compiler was "not entitled to take one word of information previously published," but rather had to "independently wor[k] out the matter for himself, so as to arrive at the same result from the same common sources of information." ...

    Without a doubt, the "sweat of the brow" doctrine flouted basic copyright principles. ... "Sweat of the brow" courts ... handed out proprietary interests in facts and declared that authors are absolutely precluded from saving time and effort by relying upon the facts contained in prior works. In truth, "[i]t is just such wasted effort that the proscription against the copyright of ideas and facts . . . [is] designed to prevent." "Protection for the fruits of such research . . . may, in certain circumstances, be available under a theory of unfair competition. But to accord copyright protection on this basis alone distorts basic copyright principles in that it creates a monopoly in public domain materials without the necessary justification of protecting and encouraging the creation of `writings' by `authors.'" ...

    The sine qua non of copyright is originality. To qualify for copyright protection, a work must be original to the author. Original, as the term is used in copyright, means only that the work was independently created by the author (as opposed to copied from other works), and that it possesses at least some minimal degree of creativity. To be sure, the requisite level of creativity is extremely low; even a slight amount will suffice. The vast majority of works make the grade quite easily, as they possess some creative spark, "no matter how crude, humble or obvious" it might be. Originality does not signify novelty; a work may be original even though it closely resembles other works, so long as the similarity is fortuitous, not the result of copying. To illustrate, assume that two poets, each ignorant of the other, compose identical poems. Neither work is novel, yet both are original and, hence, copyrightable.

    Originality is a constitutional requirement. The source of Congress' power to enact copyright laws is Article I, 8, cl. 8, of the Constitution, which authorizes Congress to "secur[e] for limited Times to Authors . . . the exclusive Right to their respective Writings." In two decisions from the late 19th Century - The Trade-Mark Cases, and Burrow-

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  15. Scanning insufficient to establish copyright by butlerm · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corporation, scanning a public domain image isn't sufficient to establish copyright on the result, even if considerable skill and expertise is required.