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Möbius Strip Riddle Solved

BigLug writes with news that two experts in non-linear dynamics, Gert van der Heijden and Eugene Starostin of University College London, have developed an algebraic equation that describes the Möbius strip — something that, you may be surprised to learn, had never been done since the form's discovery in 1858. ABC.net.au has an accessible short summary: "What determines the strip's shape is its differing areas of 'energy density,' they say. 'Energy density' means the stored, elastic energy that is contained in the strip as a result of the folding. Places where the strip is most bent have the highest energy density; conversely, places that are flat and unstressed by a fold have the least energy density."

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  1. If only... by InvisblePinkUnicorn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now if only they could build a little bridge out of matchsticks so those poor ants can get off that damn endless path.

  2. Re:Mobius strip by WwWonka · · Score: 5, Funny

    pessimism and sarcastic remarks will get you nowhere in the scientific community.

    Now leave me alone while I figure out how to get to the top of these stupid MC Escher stairs.

  3. Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Interesting idea, but I'm having trouble seeing both sides of their argument...

  4. Re:What if I make an SLA (stereolithography)? by kebes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I make one from a 3-d printer or SLA, then what? That's a Mobius strip with no stresses and equal energy density throughout.
    Sure. In principle you can generate an arbitrary shape with an arbitrary internal stress distribution (including no stress distribution).

    The paper in question, however, was modeling the minimum-energy state that a Möbius strip would adopt assuming that the local energy on the strip is based on local curvature (and that stretching energies can be neglected). As they point out, this is a very good approximation for building a Möbius strip by bending common thin materials (e.g. a sheet of paper or plastic). Knowing stress distributions is of course important for things like failure mechanics.

    They also note that in the field of synthesizing nano-ribbons and nano-Möbius strips (yes, it's been done!), this bending energy can be critical to understanding the behavior of the final object, and is also important in understanding how such objects can be synthesized. (The growth of anisotropic nano-crystals, including nano-ribbons, is strongly dependent on the relative energies of the various growing surfaces.)

    Having said all that, I think it's pretty clear that the authors tackled this particular mathematical problem because it was fun, and because of the notoriety of the Möbius strip. Ultimately it's a neat piece of mathematics and makes for some cool-looking graphs.
  5. Why did the Chicken Cross the Mobius Strip?.... by CaffeineJedi · · Score: 5, Funny

    To get to the other

  6. The scientific principle of Möbius strippers by jollyreaper · · Score: 5, Funny

    Möbius strippers never show you their backsides.

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  7. algebraic equations for Mobius strips are not new by coult · · Score: 5, Interesting

    TFA doesn't say what the poster says it does. The article is really about the physics of actually making Mobius strips out of various materials. The equations which parameterize a mobius strip are not complicated and can take many forms (a good math undergrad should be able to put it together with some help from Mathematica, for example).

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  8. Re:Mobius strip by be-fan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You'd understand the significance of this sort of work if you had a background in engineering. The utility of this work isn't just in understanding mobius strips. The methods used to understand such structures can be used to understand other types of structures.

    What this work did was use a new mathematical technique to analyze strain energy within a mobius strip. Computation of the strain energy (potential energy function) of various geometries is an important part of the finite element formulation used to analyze real mechanical structures. The fact that the geometry is so simple doesn't mean the work is useless. Finite element methods are formulated on very simple geometries. For example, you can do very precise analysis of something like an airplane skin using a fundamental element as simple as an isotropic 2D rectangular sheet.

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  9. Re:What if I make an SLA (stereolithography)? by Thrip · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the rest of the world decided to start calling apples "oranges" tomorrow and you decided to go about correcting them, who in fact would be more wrong? What if 49% of the people started calling apples "oranges"? What if 10% did? What is the cut-off where something that started out as a misunderstanding becomes the new understanding? These days, if you can find a few other people who share your misapprehension, you can declare it "the new usage."
    When I hear someone trot out the "modern, popular usage" of "beg the question" or, say, "enormity" or "irregardless," well, I know those things are sanctioned by more populist dictionaries, but I pretty much assume the person is just using words they don't understand, which gives me a negative impression of them. And when people defend those usages, I think "here is someone who can't stand to find out they were wrong about something."
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